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by oteb
Sat Mar 14, 2009 12:01 am
Forum: T2 General Discussion Archive
Topic: Are teachers underpaid or not?
Replies: 322
Views: 9060

Re: Are teachers underpaid or not?

There are millions of "good" Muslims out there, and I'm sure such was the case back then too. Not all are/were terrorists. I never meant to suggest they were. I'm only noting that it's mostly violence and strife we see in the middle east these days, and that their society is very fundamen...
by oteb
Fri Mar 13, 2009 11:49 pm
Forum: T2 General Discussion Archive
Topic: Great web comic.
Replies: 78
Views: 4361

Re: Great web comic.

As for beauty being necessary factor I also disagree.
The "LOVE" poster by Tomaszewski is hardly in cannon of standard beauty.

Another not beautiful art:
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by oteb
Fri Mar 13, 2009 11:46 pm
Forum: T2 General Discussion Archive
Topic: Great web comic.
Replies: 78
Views: 4361

Re: Great web comic.

http://warszawa.dlastudenta.pl/photos/kultura/teatr2007/plakat_japoski.jpg http://i.wp.pl/a/f/jpeg/20104/bujak_carmen_nagrora_zasp.jpeg http://images.artnet.com/WebServices/picture.aspx?date=20060508&catalog=101034&gallery=111588&lot=00200&filetype=2 Not vintage, 2 of them are comme...
by oteb
Fri Mar 13, 2009 11:37 pm
Forum: T2 General Discussion Archive
Topic: Great web comic.
Replies: 78
Views: 4361

Re: Great web comic.

Your poster illustrates what I said before Oteb. While originally done as a commercial piece, we now add to it the "vintage" flavor and appeal, and along with that the fact that it is a highly detailed work, done, like Sarvis said, seeking to make art. That amount of detail and elegance b...
by oteb
Fri Mar 13, 2009 11:31 pm
Forum: T2 General Discussion Archive
Topic: Great web comic.
Replies: 78
Views: 4361

Re: Great web comic.

Oh and as for painting mundane object and calling it art:
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Bisucuit box:)
by oteb
Fri Mar 13, 2009 11:21 pm
Forum: T2 General Discussion Archive
Topic: Are teachers underpaid or not?
Replies: 322
Views: 9060

Re: Are teachers underpaid or not?

Oh back to Middle Ages discussion. Kifle told me to google it so I ended up on wiki page. "The breakdown of Roman society was dramatic. The patchwork of petty rulers was incapable of supporting the depth of civic infrastructure required to maintain libraries, public baths, arenas, and major edu...
by oteb
Fri Mar 13, 2009 11:16 pm
Forum: T2 General Discussion Archive
Topic: Great web comic.
Replies: 78
Views: 4361

Re: Great web comic.

Well bringing up Goya is a bit unfair in this discussion which started after "Black square on white foreground" which is often held as a breakthru in art. Most art before fin-de-sicle period was about perfection and skill. 20th century opened an artistic Pandora's box. But are you sure you...
by oteb
Fri Mar 13, 2009 10:44 pm
Forum: T2 General Discussion Archive
Topic: Are teachers underpaid or not?
Replies: 322
Views: 9060

Re: Are teachers underpaid or not?

Sarvis wrote:Now, were they as fundamentalist then as they are now?


No idea. But judging by the fact that in 200years they spreaded islam all over north africa, persia and spain I would bet on it.
by oteb
Fri Mar 13, 2009 10:16 pm
Forum: T2 General Discussion Archive
Topic: Are teachers underpaid or not?
Replies: 322
Views: 9060

Re: Are teachers underpaid or not?

Again, the most prosperous and inventive country in the world is ALSO the one with the most religious freedom. A big part of that freedom is being allowed not to believe. The problems in the Middle East are, aside from our own interference, largely due to heavily fundamentalist populations. Have yo...
by oteb
Fri Mar 13, 2009 10:08 pm
Forum: T2 General Discussion Archive
Topic: Are teachers underpaid or not?
Replies: 322
Views: 9060

Re: Are teachers underpaid or not?

It is in fact quite funny situation. We might have come to something that differs American and Euro outlook on history of Middle Ages(tho without any proof I think it might be Anglosaxon and continental Euro point of view. I this case I would blame a certain Henry:P). Most sources I have ever touche...
by oteb
Fri Mar 13, 2009 8:29 pm
Forum: T2 General Discussion Archive
Topic: Are teachers underpaid or not?
Replies: 322
Views: 9060

Re: Are teachers underpaid or not?

Yeah, I really have no response to a bunch of people who just say "omg ur so wrong go read history." Nor do I have the patience or desire to even carry on a conversation with someone who doesn't believe that the corruption and lust for power of the Catholic Church were the catalyst for th...
by oteb
Fri Mar 13, 2009 8:21 pm
Forum: T2 General Discussion Archive
Topic: Are teachers underpaid or not?
Replies: 322
Views: 9060

Re: Are teachers underpaid or not?

Well I have a rather open mind and I don't have a lot of use for my strings of ansi I haven't used in some years. Tho I still don't believe certain level of animosity between church and science was a cause of civilization collapse that happened around the time Rome fell. I also believe that similar ...
by oteb
Fri Mar 13, 2009 6:41 pm
Forum: T2 General Discussion Archive
Topic: Are teachers underpaid or not?
Replies: 322
Views: 9060

Re: Are teachers underpaid or not?

Which brings up another point: If you point at anyone who did anything at all during the middle ages in Europe, they're going to be Christian. If you weren't, there was probably a nice warm stake waiting for you. So does the fact that a few philosophers contributed to science and learning despite l...
by oteb
Fri Mar 13, 2009 6:38 pm
Forum: T2 General Discussion Archive
Topic: Are teachers underpaid or not?
Replies: 322
Views: 9060

Re: Are teachers underpaid or not?

On the margin tho. Calling William of Ockham in this discussion Adriorn is like shooting your own foot.
He was called to the court of pope and prosecuted for heresy.
by oteb
Fri Mar 13, 2009 6:28 pm
Forum: T2 General Discussion Archive
Topic: Are teachers underpaid or not?
Replies: 322
Views: 9060

Re: Are teachers underpaid or not?

Sarvis wrote:Oh, and it's Occam.


Ockham. William of Ockham
http://maps.google.com/maps/mm?ie=UTF8& ... 29869&z=15
Occam is bastardized version.
by oteb
Fri Mar 13, 2009 6:01 pm
Forum: T2 General Discussion Archive
Topic: Are teachers underpaid or not?
Replies: 322
Views: 9060

Re: Are teachers underpaid or not?

Actually, the reason the Dark Ages happened AT ALL was because of the quashing of science and learning by the Catholic Church. The Protestant Revolution enabled the Renaissance, but it took them a thousand years to get around to doing it. How advanced do you think our society would be today if we h...
by oteb
Fri Mar 13, 2009 5:06 pm
Forum: T2 General Discussion Archive
Topic: How did you learn how to tolerate dumb stuff/people at work?
Replies: 19
Views: 812

Re: How did you learn how to tolerate dumb stuff/people at work?

INT: Perfect
WIS: Mundane
CHA: BAD

Reroll or pick different class imo.
by oteb
Fri Mar 13, 2009 4:18 pm
Forum: T2 General Discussion Archive
Topic: Great web comic.
Replies: 78
Views: 4361

Re: Great web comic.

Adriorn. Last month my company has submitted a project for a youth center design competition. Other than design of the whole building the investor demanded a design of logo for that center as well.. Hmm dunno how to call it in english. Basicly a system of visual orientation marks for floor level sig...
by oteb
Fri Mar 13, 2009 8:47 am
Forum: T2 General Discussion Archive
Topic: Great web comic.
Replies: 78
Views: 4361

Re: Great web comic.

I think the leaflet has much higher artistic value than the painting of deer I posted. Art is not about recreation. The essence of art is a creative process. Don't you think that the word "creation" implies producing something new? There are painters who specialize in making copies of famo...
by oteb
Thu Mar 12, 2009 10:26 pm
Forum: T2 General Discussion Archive
Topic: Great web comic.
Replies: 78
Views: 4361

Re: Great web comic.

I think the biggest defining factor is a certain level on ingenuity added to it. Going by that standard "Black square on white background" was genuine work of art at that time (1915).
Art needs to give birth to something new, offer a new approach or look at things.
by oteb
Thu Mar 12, 2009 10:22 pm
Forum: T2 General Discussion Archive
Topic: Great web comic.
Replies: 78
Views: 4361

Re: Great web comic.

Rythm is Fundamental KOLOR NET.jpg
Dance party leaflet - not art?
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by oteb
Thu Mar 12, 2009 10:20 pm
Forum: T2 General Discussion Archive
Topic: Great web comic.
Replies: 78
Views: 4361

Re: Great web comic.

SuperStock_900-141126.jpg
A cliche kitsch- art?
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by oteb
Thu Mar 12, 2009 8:54 pm
Forum: T2 General Discussion Archive
Topic: Great web comic.
Replies: 78
Views: 4361

Re: Great web comic.

If I want to get into an argument over the attachment Oteb posted by Kazimir Severinovich Malevich as not really being art, but a design (or an attempt to make money imo), should I hijack this thread or start another one. Hmm... I'm still not sure which point Oteb was trying to make. I just let it ...
by oteb
Thu Mar 12, 2009 12:10 pm
Forum: T2 General Discussion Archive
Topic: Great web comic.
Replies: 78
Views: 4361

Re: Great web comic.

As for your diagram of bashing and criticism I do not agree.
| bashing |
------------------------------------------------------
.......| criticism |
Criticism requires evaluation, bashing does not.
by oteb
Thu Mar 12, 2009 12:08 pm
Forum: T2 General Discussion Archive
Topic: Great web comic.
Replies: 78
Views: 4361

Re: Great web comic.

I am not devoted to one particular comic. I am more devoted to a particular kind of humor. I like Garfield, Dilbert, xkcd, OOTS. It doesn't mean I am fond of every single stripe from them. Just on avarage the appeal to my kind of humor. Those above well... they don't. Tho there are a couple PA or CA...
by oteb
Thu Mar 12, 2009 11:47 am
Forum: T2 General Discussion Archive
Topic: Great web comic.
Replies: 78
Views: 4361

Re: Great web comic.

criticism - the act or art of analyzing and evaluating or judging the quality of a literary or artistic work, musical performance, art exhibit, dramatic production, etc.
bash - informal To criticize (another) harshly, accusatorially, and threateningly
by oteb
Thu Mar 12, 2009 11:37 am
Forum: T2 General Discussion Archive
Topic: Great web comic.
Replies: 78
Views: 4361

Re: Great web comic.

Me < gormal

Fans sometimes can get bored or disilussioned < antifans will get it all just to prove their point.

Oh and just for you Gormal one more strip:
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by oteb
Thu Mar 12, 2009 11:00 am
Forum: T2 General Discussion Archive
Topic: Great web comic.
Replies: 78
Views: 4361

Re: Great web comic.

Gormal wrote:Edit: I'm not exactly sure what you're trying to say with that painting. I believe what you should have titled the image "strawman.jpg".


I was mocking your concept of visual art. Sorry if it wasn't obvious enough.
by oteb
Thu Mar 12, 2009 10:42 am
Forum: T2 General Discussion Archive
Topic: Great web comic.
Replies: 78
Views: 4361

Re: Great web comic.

Image

Kazimir Severinovich Malevich oil on canvas 1915.
by oteb
Thu Mar 12, 2009 10:39 am
Forum: T2 General Discussion Archive
Topic: Great web comic.
Replies: 78
Views: 4361

Re: Great web comic.

http://xkcdsucks.blogspot.com/ The link is just amazing. Making a blog just to bash every comic strip published on some other guy's page? That dude has SOME issues. Does he visit xkcd daily to torture himself? Ok here's how it works. A comic is a medium for visual art. If you cannot draw, your comi...
by oteb
Thu Mar 12, 2009 10:09 am
Forum: T2 General Discussion Archive
Topic: Great web comic.
Replies: 78
Views: 4361

Re: Great web comic.

If you have no artistic skills like Munroe, then you had damn well better be able to execute a proper joke. Its a comic based on wordswordswordswords and he's a poor writer. Zero Punctuation has a good review of webcomics in general that applies here. Hehe. Gotta love yahtzee but I do not agree it ...
by oteb
Thu Mar 12, 2009 9:11 am
Forum: T2 General Discussion Archive
Topic: Great web comic.
Replies: 78
Views: 4361

Re: Great web comic.

IF you cant differentiate between the two you are beyond hope.
by oteb
Thu Mar 12, 2009 8:39 am
Forum: T2 General Discussion Archive
Topic: Great web comic.
Replies: 78
Views: 4361

Re: Great web comic.

Image
by oteb
Thu Mar 12, 2009 8:38 am
Forum: T2 General Discussion Archive
Topic: Great web comic.
Replies: 78
Views: 4361

Re: Great web comic.

some highlights:)

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by oteb
Thu Mar 12, 2009 8:34 am
Forum: T2 General Discussion Archive
Topic: Great web comic.
Replies: 78
Views: 4361

Great web comic.

In case you haven't seen the light yet here it is:
http://www.xkcd.com
by oteb
Wed Mar 11, 2009 11:43 pm
Forum: T2 General Discussion Archive
Topic: Lets Talk Food
Replies: 12
Views: 648

Re: Lets Talk Food

Shitty metric system Now to convert this into real measurements! Why the fuck can't America get in line with the majority of the world and go metric? 200g of italian sausage - 7 oz 1/2 of onion - still half 100g butter - 3.5 oz 300g rice - 10oz 1 glass of dry white wine - rather than glass use a cu...
by oteb
Wed Mar 11, 2009 1:45 pm
Forum: T2 General Discussion Archive
Topic: Lets Talk Food
Replies: 12
Views: 648

Re: Lets Talk Food

As for new stuff, I'm trying to think up a really good recipe for an italian fried rice. I love fried rice in general, but after playing with rice and some italian-seasoned chicken; i really think that this could work well. I'm thinking: white rice, sausage and/or chicken, diced tomatos, onions, ga...
by oteb
Tue Mar 10, 2009 8:45 pm
Forum: T2 General Discussion Archive
Topic: Medical Lawsuits
Replies: 46
Views: 569

Re: Medical Lawsuits

I think competition works at a level of local grocery store if you plan to buy a carrot. Moving just one notch up in in complication to a level of lets say soap. You know absolutely nothing about product unless you are a chemist and a dermatologist at same time. Well you may like the scent. But that...
by oteb
Mon Feb 16, 2009 11:41 pm
Forum: T2 General Discussion Archive
Topic: Violating your child's privacy
Replies: 59
Views: 2301

Re: Violating your child's privacy

. I will watch; I will always watch, but I will only interfere when necessary. If they show me they are not mature enough to have privacy, I will take it from them. You can't take away something they don't have silly wabbit. You are acting like a paranoid freak and got guts to call my ways retarded...
by oteb
Sun Feb 15, 2009 1:05 pm
Forum: T2 General Discussion Archive
Topic: Violating your child's privacy
Replies: 59
Views: 2301

Re: Violating your child's privacy

I got 2. And despite me letting the older one (son 11) be a retard as you say I am absolutely sure he didn't do 10% of retarded things I did by the time I was his age. Sometimes I am seriously surprised how responsible he is. The younger one (girl 6) is shaping up to be way more troublesome in the f...
by oteb
Fri Feb 13, 2009 4:23 pm
Forum: T2 General Discussion Archive
Topic: How did you meet?
Replies: 99
Views: 5762

Re: How did you meet?

Stop thinking of significant other as prerequisite for enjoyable life. Start enjoying your life and you will get significant other as a special bonus.
















and no. strip clubs are not "enoying life" its "killing the pain of life"
by oteb
Fri Feb 13, 2009 3:37 am
Forum: T2 General Discussion Archive
Topic: How did you meet?
Replies: 99
Views: 5762

Re: How did you meet?

Milan Kundera claimed that (rough quote I dont remember exact wording) Women don't date attractive men. Women date men who dated attractive women I found this rule right on point in soooo many occasions. So women don't date men who haven't had a woman before? If you treat that literally of course i...
by oteb
Thu Feb 12, 2009 11:13 pm
Forum: T2 General Discussion Archive
Topic: Violating your child's privacy
Replies: 59
Views: 2301

Re: Violating your child's privacy

Oteb, if you were past the point of trusting your kids to tell the truth and or thought they were engaging in very dangerous behavior, would you still "respect" their privacy and approach it like the police who have constraints on how they can investigate and gather evidence? Is limiting ...
by oteb
Thu Feb 12, 2009 5:53 pm
Forum: T2 General Discussion Archive
Topic: How did you meet?
Replies: 99
Views: 5762

Re: How did you meet?

Milan Kundera claimed that (rough quote I dont remember exact wording)

Women don't date attractive men. Women date men who dated attractive women

I found this rule right on point in soooo many occasions.
by oteb
Wed Feb 11, 2009 11:40 pm
Forum: T2 General Discussion Archive
Topic: Violating your child's privacy
Replies: 59
Views: 2301

Re: Violating your child's privacy

Your kids are going to think you're awful stupid. Cause inspecting it when kid is not looking is infinitely smarter. OK i got your point. There is a reason why the police pursue search warrants when they have suspicion of illicit activity. It's because the perpetrators aren't likely to give themsel...
by oteb
Wed Feb 11, 2009 6:09 pm
Forum: T2 General Discussion Archive
Topic: Violating your child's privacy
Replies: 59
Views: 2301

Re: Violating your child's privacy

Ragorn wrote:Your kids are going to think you're awful stupid.


Cause inspecting it when kid is not looking is infinitely smarter. OK i got your point.
by oteb
Wed Feb 11, 2009 1:06 am
Forum: T2 General Discussion Archive
Topic: Violating your child's privacy
Replies: 59
Views: 2301

Re: Violating your child's privacy

Ah. The usual judgmental Kiryan is back. Were you sick on tuesday or something? The problem with your approach is that you have created some sort of moral and ethical framework all for what? I don't know what is your problem with my approach but no I didn't create it just for that. That is part of m...
by oteb
Tue Feb 10, 2009 11:46 pm
Forum: T2 General Discussion Archive
Topic: Violating your child's privacy
Replies: 59
Views: 2301

Re: Violating your child's privacy

So when your child is hanging out with a kid that you know is a very bad influence, and their behavior changes, and you feel there's very good reason to believe they may be abusing substances they shouldn't be involved in, do you hand her the handbag and ask her to produce anything she may feel she...

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