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Kifle

Pretty sure my education in science was better than yours, as you seem to be forgetting the Dalton (solid sphere) and Thompson (pudding) models (also taught in the vast majority of high school chemistry classes), but ok. Because my education in science stopped at high school... Now you make ad homi...

Kifle

Sabotage!

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Kifle, I don't necessarily take the person who is willing to work for the least amount of money. I take the qualified person who is willing to work for the least amount of money. And a lot goes into what I would consider qualified. And I don't take overqualified people either. That sucks.. I was go...

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Its an interesting suggestion... it sounds a lot like staffing with the lowest common denominator or the most desperate person... so you might be getting the least skilled individual and in the other taking advantage of someone's situation... I think there is something fundamentally wrong about say...

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Well, you see it in some of the more prominent tea party politicians. The Pauls being a great example. My recollection is that Ron Paul voted against the Patriot Act and against authorization for the Iraqi war. Look - any group of people will have divergent opinions. The tea party phenomenon is cer...

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In order to get compensation to a reasonable level, you would need to lower it to the point that you only receive a few qualified applicants for an open position. That's how it works in the private sector where there is a profit motive. When I look to hire a new paralegal I post an advertisement on...

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Again, I didn't intend to offend. Thought you may have skimmed a bit. I do it quite often :) I agree that one being does not naturally imply continuity in the other, but it makes, for me, a strong case. The animal kingdom is the best place to gather data that allows insight into human behavior sans ...

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Just a correction... I don't think most of the tea partiers are against the patriot act. I meant many are against it. The majority are probably for it. But the point I'm making is that when you think tea party the focus isn't on social issues or security issues like the other groups I mentioned foc...

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And yet, some of humanity's greatest scientists studied and practiced alchemy, such as Sir Isaac Newton. Did I mention that a lot of them were deeply religious as well? A significant number of the inductees of the National Academy of Science also report being religious. There is so much wrong in th...

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Kifle, The tea party and the neocons are two very different animals. I think most of the tea partiers are actually very much against the Patriot Act much like Ron and Rand Paul are. They are basically Republican Libertarians. You generally see them concentrating on cutting government and government...

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I'm not really seeing your point. Either the government causes people to go untreated by cost benefit analysis or the private insurance group denies coverage through cost-benefit analysis. Either way, the sick person is getting fucked. Condemning one and disregarding the other is a good example of b...

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Wow, that is fucking scary. As much as I agree with his intentions and motive, he is setting a disastrous precedent by attempting this. I hope to god somebody slaps him and the courts reject his action. It wouldn't be the first time the president has attempted, and successfully, to enlarge the scope...

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The sun shines on a dog's asshole every once in a while :) I don't expect it to last though. Just kiddin'! You do it often enough, but statistics can only go so far, and most are useless.

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http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110224/ap_on_re_us/us_tea_party_world;_ylt=AosZtVEKMhs5Z9RpMoBh9zus0NUE;_ylu=X3oDMTNtcmZ1YnRsBGFzc2V0A2FwLzIwMTEwMjI0L3VzX3RlYV9wYXJ0eV93b3JsZARjY29kZQNtb3N0cG9wdWxhcgRjcG9zAzQEcG9zAzEEcHQDaG9tZV9jb2tlBHNlYwN5bl9oZWFkbGluZV9saXN0BHNsawN0ZWFwYXJ0eXZpc2k- Why is it insane...

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No offense, Adriorn, but you should read the article I posted again. The end actually covers your refutation -- briefly, but it does. And a lot of the examples address the dominance issues. Secondly, the human social system has gotten increasingly complex. Psychologists have argued, very well, that ...

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My issue is not that ALL crazy ideas must be taught, just the ones that that have an insanely large following. When 50 fucking percent 50% or 180 some million Americans believe some alternate explanation to evolution and another 30% or 100 million americans believe directly in ID... I think its fai...

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no, we'll just change the class name. Its retarded to teach ID in a religion class. It is a theory that challenges a scientific theory who'se proponents use science to justify and attempt to prove it even if though technically its not science. The only appropriate place to teach anything about ID i...

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kiryan wrote:no, we'll just change the class name. Its retarded to teach ID.

fixed.

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kiryan wrote:Show me your scientific evidence that homosexuality is not a choice. If you can't then I'll have to assume you're basing your argument on your religious beliefs (liberal world view that is).

My evidence would be reformed homosexuals.

http://www.news-medical.net/news/2006/10/23/20718.aspx

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And yet, some of humanity's greatest scientists studied and practiced alchemy, such as Sir Isaac Newton. Did I mention that a lot of them were deeply religious as well? A significant number of the inductees of the National Academy of Science also report being religious. There is so much wrong in th...

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Basically the argument I'm seeing Kiryan make is that since alchemy was used to create chemistry, alchemy should be taught in some fashion in chemistry classes; therefore, ID should be taught in biology courses in some fashion. Lets break this down, shall we: Premise 1 -- Alchemy was used to create ...

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Even an army of ad spammers can't compete with Kiryan's posting might!

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Its amazing, you guys can find every reason to be reasonable and consider practical reality in every thing you advocate, but can't find it reasonable to address the MOST COMMON beliefs/theory regarding human evolution on a technicality. http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2005/10/22/opinion/polls/main96...

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Ashiwi wrote:And this is why I opened this up under the Current Events & Politics forum.

It was going so well at the beginning, too!

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Next you're going to tell me math is math or English is English and doesn't belong in a science class. :roll: Math goes and in hand with the hard sciences. English as a study does not belong in science unless we are talking about writing papers -- at which point it is not taught, but definitely a f...

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No, we should teach it because it is a human right. Furthermore, science can cone up against peoples' values. A good teacher should be able to either prove their argument conclusively or explain how the conflict can affect the student and their values. For example, presenting alternative viewpoints...

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http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703800204576158851079665840.html?mod=WSJ_hp_LEFTTopStories "In Indiana, a House committee on Monday approved legislation to change state law so that private-sector workers no longer would be required to pay dues or belong to a union that bargains o...

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because you're presenting the opposing view held by many to something that is being taught in science class. If there were 12 people who believed in ID, I'd say it shouldn't be taught. There are however millions. Millions of people believe in psychic powers. Enough to keep tarot readers profitable,...

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Do you guys even live in this world??? A "young woman" goes to an agency for treatment of an STD. She's there every couple of weeks. The doctor attempts to talk to her; she fobs him off. Now, is she a prostitute? Or is she just very sexually active? Young women and teens are a LOT more op...

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work for some other reason With street walkers the reason is typically that they will get beaten or their drugs will be withheld if they don't bring back $x each night. Seriously Kiryan, if you want to reduce prostitution you need to target the pimps... NOT the girls who are seeking medical attenti...

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I think the free market finds a cheaper solution than government. Government breeds bureaucracy and results in higher prices over all whether via excess regulation, delays or simply higher than market wages for unionized employees. In your pothole example you say its more expensive to replace your ...

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American citizen charged with stockpiling weapons due to Sarah Palin's crazy. http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/2010/02/man_charged_for_stockpiling_weapons_was_tea_partie.php Ridiculous. It's due to his crazy and has nothing to do with Sarah Palin any more than socialist blockades of milita...

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Yes I realize some disease have no symptoms. Kifle asked how PP enables prostitution. It enables prostitution by helping girls be healthy enough to prostitute. No, it doesn't. They would prostitute and spread disease anyway. This. Prostitutes aren't going to stop working if they have an annoying ca...

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Strip out morality? on a question of what we ought to do? Is that even possible? Government money should not be flowing to support illegal actions period. Treating a prostitute, does not help that person in all but the most basic physiological ways. It basically guarantees further victimization as ...

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So would lady Gaga be a musician or a politician? I'd like to point out lots of songs are about politics... or at least an attack on certain aspects of culture. What would you say to someone who says... listening to Rush Limbaugh a conservative out of a liberal doth not make? I use music to alter m...

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So because we can't stop it, we can't do anything about it? Does that sum up your position? Sounds like wall street, fraud and insider training to me. No, because we can't stop it, we should mitigate the damages caused by it in an efficient way. That sums up my position. Preventative spending for o...

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Spending less is not always less disastrous as spending more. Like my analogy of planned parenthood in the other thread. But cutting funding for such a program, you could easily turn a $50 bill funded by the government into a $5000 bill being paid by the people. By spending less, people pay more. An...

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Its amazing to me that you can think we can solve and legislate every single problem that deals with wall street and hold them accountable, but we can't stop prostitution. we can't even try because it might harm them somehow... even though by sending them on their way they are being harmed hourly. ...

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Adriorn, I don't want it to seem like I'm complaining about my life. I'm generally a happy guy with a great wife and three great kids. And I know it seems like I hate Christianity. I don't. I find that these things help people get through things regardless of whether or not I believe in it. To each ...

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By treating the hooker you enable the practice and ensure that it continues. There may be better ways to accomplish teh same goal, but it doesn't mean you can't do this one act. The fallacy in your argument is that you assume that turning them in results in a worse outcome and that not treating the...

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Its a good point... and its why at the end of the day, I say you and only you must be 100% responsible for your own action. To have to censor / worry about who hears you exercise your 1st amendment freedom to express an opinion or belief puts you in a position where you can't exercise your freedom ...

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ok.. so now they have a decision They can choose not getting treatment or getting treatment A) pimp getting caught B) you getting thrown in jail C) support / social services D) some combination of ABCD If you're saying we have to treat them with no questions asked because they might not choose to g...

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Everyone is going to have different thresholds on what is inciteful speech or where responsibility lies for a particular action. I don't think its debatable that there is a huge difference between me saying Go kill A You should kill A If you love me you should kill A Someone should kill A I wish A ...

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American citizen charged with stockpiling weapons due to Sarah Palin's crazy. http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/2010/02/man_charged_for_stockpiling_weapons_was_tea_partie.php Ridiculous. It's due to his crazy and has nothing to do with Sarah Palin any more than socialist blockades of milita...

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its funny kifle... a belief, unproven, based on religious principles... is automatically just stupid. a belief from a scientist is just a theory in process of being proven right. -- There is a principle in christianity that nothing you do... is on your own power. Everything has been given to you in...

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American citizen charged with stockpiling weapons due to Sarah Palin's crazy. http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/2010/02/man_charged_for_stockpiling_weapons_was_tea_partie.php Ridiculous. It's due to his crazy and has nothing to do with Sarah Palin any more than socialist blockades of milita...

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You can't mix religion and reality no matter how logical you are trying to be -- or not trying to be in this case. You just have to accept that there are stupid writers out there, and there is a public who will buy and disregard the logic because they need some type of empowerment. Your girlfriend o...

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Kifle... How is the party that is cutting government across the board, screwing me? Its the party that grows government and makes me more dependnt on government that screws me. Yes GOP created homeland security... and while they're on point today, yes they will probably start screwing me again in 2...

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Unfortunately, those consequences vary little in general outcome.

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When you start realizing politicians are politicians regardless of party, you'll stop personalizing talking points and shanannigans and realize that they all fuck you in some way. Republicans do the same shit. Democrats are horrible; Republicans are horrible. Vote third party or stop complaining.

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