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Lahgen

Because the quest mob is a horny old zhentish wizard or something.

Lahgen

I have done that very thing, Ambar.

The only reason I post is so that you aren't the only person being heard.

Ultimately, I will win the mud, on my terms alone.

Lahgen

On the other hand, if the other person knows that they'll get cheated out of a first round bid regardless, what incentive does he have to come save the group from being disbanded? Or should they be expected to just come and bail everyone out without chance of good reward out the kindness of their he...

Lahgen

Even if that 30 minutes of attendance made the difference between completing the zone and everyone having to go home?

Lahgen

Oh it's not that they think that a casual player's time means nothing, but rather that it means less than a "real player's" time, and people think that bidding systems should reflect that.

Lahgen

Nonetheless tef, there is wisdom in what he's saying. Keeping an optimistic attitude about the game even in the face of adversity and opposition can do a lot to protect oneself against the "I'm better than everyone else so I deserve more" attitude that is so prevalent these days. That is, if you kee...

Lahgen

When you put it that way Kiryan, it makes sense.

I suppose the problem is the implicit (or sometimes even explicit) aggrandizement of the "hardcore mudder" over the "casual mudder" that often accompanies systems that are not straight dicing.

Lahgen

Okay Dalar...

Since the amount of time/effort put into it makes a difference...

How many years should it take for a casual gamer to get something better than a suit full of second round jot/musp gear?

Lahgen

I just have a tendency to take arguments to absurd extremes in order to poke holes in them. Like this: So...perhaps the mud can live on with just the hardcore players? We can dispense fully with those damn freeloading casual players? If so, then why not just go lead and claim the gear for yourself a...

Lahgen

Hey, I know....let's turn the mud into a hydraulic despotism regime, where a few leaders agree to lead zones, claim all the gear, and then only give it to people they like.

Lahgen

Because, despite the low pbase where we can't always choose the "best" players, casual players are just worthless freeloaders, duh.

Lahgen

Alright. But can you help me with that glowing green cap quest? It's a doozy...might take months! :p Seriously though, I've found a resolution to the problem elsewhere, but the point about rogue is that if you want any respect, you can't just be mindless damage, you have to be a good scout and a goo...

Lahgen

The point was to give people something to consider.

Lahgen

Well, I can only speak for myself, but... I knew well of Targsk's claiming rule, and I have no objection to it, and it is more than fair. Even if he were to claim something I wanted, I would not object, because I know he would only take something in order to improve himself, and thus help us all. Pe...

Lahgen

Let's look at what we have in terms of melee choices on the mud: 1. Warrior/Paladin/Antipaladin: Prime purpose is not to damage, but to tank. Most of the really good warrior types wear hitpoint and ac gear. 2. Ranger/Dire: A good/evil only class that most people hate, only used for stuff where melee...

Lahgen

I'm an egalitarian, but to me, that means equal chance and oppourtunity to succeed, not gear distribution parceled out until everyone has the same amount of gear. And especially not "only the hardcore can be allowed to win the best Tia items, because they're more important to the mud than casuals." ...

Lahgen

So then...when it comes right down to it, we have to screw the casual mudder?

Lahgen

I think the thing is, if a person is going to decide whether to play or not on the basis of whether or not he can ever win a tia item, then there is a problem. Even the best gear in the hands of a noob is not as good as mid/high level gear in the hands of someone with skill. I've said it before, and...

Lahgen

IRL, go get three really heavy bags, and try to rearrange them in your grasp easily. Do you see the issue now?

Lahgen

Someone elses idea, but:

Some of the leetest content in the game could go to evilrace only, thus more hardcore players would start playing evilrace more than they do, and thus more people would gravitate towards them in the hopes of being "in" with the hardcore.

Lahgen

I was level 37 or 38 with my human enchanter and never had any real problem keeping up. You just have to mem only what you absolutely need. Now, it might be a problem if they expect you to nuke and pwb regularly too, but otherwise it shouldn't be too hard to keep up with stone/blur/haste, as long as...

Lahgen

That was most of his real mage gear, Pril. It'll probably take at least as much effort as khanjari to get it back.

Lahgen

Perhaps they think it's not a problem.

After all, is it unfair to the person who has to lift heavy boxes at the store that the person who mops the floor has less physical exertion involved in his job?

Lahgen

"I want a little slack in zones" is not the same thing as "I want to AFK."

However, it does seem to me that it's not unfair for one class to have to do more exertion than another.

Lahgen

If this stuff returns, I'll roll a halfling enchanter and outdo every one of you. :p

Lahgen

Yeah, that would work too.

Lahgen

Well, it seems to me that we're at the risk of heading down a slippery slope trying to make it "fair," and that the more complex we make it, the greater risk of strife there will be in the future. I'd be all for removing first round bids from those who haven't been there the whole time, but with the...

Lahgen

I can understand why some want first round bids to go only to those who were there the whole time, and in a perfect world, I'd agree. But is it really practical, with a pbase of less than 100 at a time? But, unless the Dragon Sword loads, I don't see anyone dying over Tia gear. :p As for myself, if ...

Lahgen

I didn't say bring the mud entirely into line with tabletop.

Lahgen

I'd say it's less my saying "I want more death procs" and more "Here's an idea for how to add a little more challenge to the game and also bring it more in line with tabletop D&D at the same time."

Lahgen

As I recall, Pit Fiends, and possibly some of the other uber Fiend types, get the Wish spell once a year. So perhaps this could come in the form of a proc that will let them: 1. Instantly kill a pc 2. Heal himself to full instantly 3. Summon a super powerful demon, mage, etc to help fight the party....

Lahgen

Great ideas Kiryan, but what new difficulties and inconveniences will be added to the game to make up for losing the risk of losing your weapons/arrows?

Lahgen

Because it would be "unbalanced" if it had no drawbacks, of course.

Lahgen

So...mages will have to sit on their hands at 1w with the rangers until some warrior comes to tank for them in an xp or a zone, like clerics and most other "core classes" do? You say that what they have now is as bad as bug exploitation...I guess my high level elf enchanter friend is hurting the mud...

Lahgen

While I agree that perhaps Lichs could be thrown a bone in regards to travel (in fact, I don't think they're powerful enough in general), "I'm useless in Tia" isn't really rhe right reason. I mean, invokers are almost useless in Tia too.

Lahgen

Corth has quit playing because the Gods (the real ones, not the mud admins) have commanded him to, because he had gotten too powreful. So it is all for the sake of mud balance that he is at the fountain now.

Corth: He AFKs for us.

Lahgen

I must respectfully disagree with your assessment on enchanter buffs and warrior tanking, Vaprak. Honestly, when they rolled up warriors, did they expect to become like Sephiroth at level 50? Or do they just want to be the sole macho dominant badasses with the non-physical types being weak worthless...

Lahgen

In the CD Player:

Rammstein
Bach's Goldberg Variations
some nature type stuff I don't know

Also got Dream Theatre and Tenacious D. Been considering getting the new H.I.M. cd.

Lahgen

My guess is that bards get screwed on the balor eyelid because they have song of revelation and thus don't "need" a perma detect item.

Lahgen

That's slightly different, Kifle.

McDonalds shouldn't be giving out sirloins.

Movie Studios SHOULD be making quality pictures.

Lahgen

Well, at least the khanjari problem is solved now.

Lahgen

So call it "more dragon happiness" next time, so there is no confusion. :p

Lahgen

That is more or less the case, Kifle. In fact, I'd say that in most cases, the day has been won despite him, rather than because of him. In book 2, for instance, he probably really was the only one who could do anything about the situation. Perhaps in Book 4 too, but his misguided sense of whatever ...

Lahgen

"...In blood eternal lies the wraith
In blood eternal I make my lair
In blood eternal the hue of my hair
In blood eternal lies my faith..."

Lahgen

More importantly, I fail to comprehend just what the automation's sexual preference has to do with anything.

...do automations even HAVE sexual preferences? :p

Lahgen

Just my .02...

It would make some sense for good and evils to work together on this, given how they teamed up to fight the Vile One. I know that was RP there, but the idea has some precedent.

Lahgen

Drache wrote:*gasp* Don't take lahgen! He'll just waste a Tia-item on one of his female RP alts :P

You're forgetting that most of those female RP alts, once they get zonable, will be more useful than Lahgen. :p

Lahgen

Ah...victory. The three ladies competition has ended. I do not know whether to be glad or disappointed. Regardless, I am satisfied that at least one of my efforts have been acknowledge for their superiority, and I have been rewarded adequately for it. I almost took a lovely bracelet they were offeri...

Lahgen

Dalar wrote:will goodies be able to field 30?

Only if you take noobs like me.

But don't worry, Tia scares me, I won't ask to join. :p

Lahgen

Newbie mages don't come with an orb of annihilation, Thilindel. :p

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