Hey Saitcho ... the group restricts ARE going to be removed .. in an earlier post by Kris Kort on the Egroups SOS2 site regarding align grouping restricts, they are being removed completely with one exception ... Paladins and Anti Paladins cannot group together ... sort of a matter and anti matter c...

Blah blah blah Rho! :P To sum up a few things ... Rangers should PRAY for spells, not mem them. Rangers should be virtually untrackable by an aggro mob, I emphasize untrackable, not undimmable, the spell list for rangers needs some deletions, some alterations, and some unique flora/fauna based addit...

Well as you say Yadir ... Rangers should be out in the woods, but in the realms of Soj Rangers dont really have any major advantages "IN THE WOODS" ... so why bother? Rangers should be set up so that WE CAN make out quite well on our own in the wild ... I would also rather see changes to Rangers occ...

IMO Waelos is right on the button for most all his suggestions, Ive played AD&D since many of Soj mudders were still in diapers ... and one common aspect of the Ranger was that in the outdoors, especially those areas where "civilation" has yet to encroach, the Ranger rules all ... no class, no anima...

Nicely put Shev ... I agree ... the AD&D system doesnt really tend to give specialization casters a whole lot of advantage ... just a few more spells per level ... but no new or different spells ... I like the idea of certain spells only available to certain types of casters .. allows for more variety