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Lathander

Sarvis, Yes, I believe I would argue that poverty causes pollution. Poor people can not buy the expensive, cleaner technology. Also, poor areas need jobs and industry allowing those that pollute more to come into their area. Personally, I thought this was just common sense. Since you brought it up, ...

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Avak, I seriously doubt this is a growth opportunity. We are talking about raising the costs of doing business and living our lives. That's bad for growth. Those statements you put up are a fantasy of static analysis. Implementing the first five points I talked about would result in jobs going overs...

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Response to the first 5 on the 10 point list 1. Promote Advanced Technology & Hybrid Cars: Begin today to provide incentives for converting domestic assembly lines to manufacture highly efficient cars, transitioning the fleet to American made advanced technology vehicles, increasing consumer cho...

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Good links adriorn.

Lathander

Well, seems to me, the author took a legitimate concern that comes out of the Supreme Court ruling on carbon dioxide regulation as a pollutant. If carbon dioxide, which every animal creates is a pollutant based on the supposed climate impact, then by that same logic, somewhat of a stretch since the ...

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Sarvis, you finally did it. I'm completely confused by the ecoenquirer thing. That has got to be a joke site or something. Most of the stuff on there looks to be wacky stories about global warming things. What link was it that was involved with ecoenquirer? After Hurricane Katrina: Vatican Sued for ...

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Actually Sarvis, clouds do not only act as a cooling effect during the day. At night, they act in the opposite manner which is why cloudy nights are warmer than clear nights generally.

Also, there is a significant difference between water vapor and clouds.

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Or trained to give the "correct" response by giving it fish.

Lathander

Could deserts be so hot because they occur in some of the hottest places with little rainfall? Also, at night, deserts become much cooler, probably because of the lack of water in the air. Quite honestly, I read Avak's link to the water thread. Water vapor may be a feedback loop to global warming, a...

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take out of context From Wiktionary Jump to: navigation, search [edit] English [edit] Transitive verb to take (something) out of context To interpret something in a manner in which it was not intended to be understood, often deliberately Sarvis, this is what you do by concentrating on the example of...

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Sarvis, are you claiming that the world ends when we hit peak oil production? I'd claim when we hit peak oil, the price will encourage people to use other energy sources. The energy source largely depends on the application. For electricity, folks like the French have moved to nuclear. For transport...

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Sarvis, this is from the article you posted: 4. "As the concentration of biodiesel increased, the oxides of nitrogen [NOx] emissions increased. The B20A20 fuel blend effectively reduced the oxides of nitrogen emissions below that of baseline diesel fuel. Retarding the timing was an effective wa...

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Avak, I appreciate the post although I'll say you might also be falling for the press out there on global warming. It helps to be skeptical. I'll tackle the end of your post first. The "Hockey Stick" global warming chart. http://www.uoguelph.ca/~rmckitri/research/Climate_L.pdf The "Ho...

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Wow, you really don't get economics. No, once we hit peak oil, things are not going to just fall about. No one is gonna run around in circles and cry other than the gloom and doom folks. What will happen is people will simply use other sources of energy. There are lots that actually work quite well ...

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I understand the concept of Peak Oil quite well. Some folks say we have passed it, others say it is near while others say it is off on the horizon. If and when we hit peak oil, you will see movement shortly thereafter to other energy resources because it will be necessary. Contrast this with environ...

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Thanks Corth. Yea, liberals seem to believe that people do not make good decisions, so the state or government should force it on them. So much for believing in freedom and liberty. Here is a great discussion on the largest proposed solar farm in the world. You folks that really are trumpeting this ...

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Did you read the George Will link earlier about the process to make those batteries for the electric cars? I'm not mischaracterizing at all. Maybe you should listen to yourself and your arguments against prosperity. The PC power supply was actually about me when I built my new computer and got a Sil...

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Sounds like hate prosperity and love poverty to me. People want choices. Of course there is a market for environmentally friendly items. When you buy a computer power supply that is highly efficient, you are making a choice that helps the environment. Also, it is higher quality than the lower effici...

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There is a big difference between walking through a store where the bulbs are already up in the ceiling and having to handle and change the bulbs in your home. Mercury is a dangerous chemical, and many of us that change light bulbs can attest to breaking some whether during the changing or after thr...

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Sarvis, I don't know if you have your own home yet, or still live with your parents, but accidents do happen around the house, including dropping light bulbs. With a traditional light bulb, there is only the threat of the broken glass. With the compact fluorescent, you have a major problem with rega...

Lathander

Below, taken from Wikipedia, are two of ideas on why allergies are more prevalent now. I would add increased diagnosis, whether real or not, as a third idea. I'd argue this is similar to the ADD epidemic we seem to be in. Also, as someone that suffers from immune system problems, allergies and the l...

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Sylvos, on the issue of peanuts, how does the environment or pollution affect peanut allergies? Most likely, folks are giving their kids peanuts too early. My daughter is 9 months and I have no intention of giving her anything with shellfish or peanuts until she is 2 to 3 years old. Many people prob...

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Compact fluorescent light bulbs have been all the rage. I have even changed bulbs in places in my house where I donâ€™t care about the quality of the light. They last longer, run cooler, and save energy. Sounds great right? The problem is they contain mercury. If you were to break on in your house w...

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Heh, there's our Sarvis, arguing about arguing, how typical. Hope you never change or you'd actually get a clue. In regard to the ozone hole, I believe that the fall '06 was the worst ever, defined as the widest and deepest. It seems more an effect of cold temperatures in the stratosphere than anyth...

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Uh, well, the 76 legislation wasn't much and I believe the US ban went into effect in 93 or so. Finally, I think the developing country ban is in 2010. CFC production actually increased in the 80's so why one would try to use earlier years does not make much sense to me. I suppose I did read Avak po...

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Of course, I'll give the answer when the ozone hole is not totally gone in 2050. Many developing countries still produce CFC's. Not only do they produce, but that production has been growing at a faster rate. The ultimate problem to alot of these issues has to do with economics. When the developed c...

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I love that article Corth. Sarvis, instead of saying nonsense, what, in what I said, is actually wrong? It seems what Avak and I said is exactly the same that there has been no impact yet because of the lead time. See, the fundamental problem with you, I believe, is that you are not intellectually c...

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Actually Llaaldara, the answer to your question was touched earlier in a subtle way. The problem with an answer is that according to the science, it takes about 20 to 30 years for the CFC's to get up to the top of the atmosphere. This means that there should be absolutely no impact yet as a result o...

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Now wait a second, no one is supporting one religion over another. They are simply allocating funds to a charity or service group that just so happens to be religious based. There is a big difference.

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Kennedy finally left the dark side.

Seriously, most of the decisions have been good, although I'm not a big fan of the price floor decision. I see the point on that one, but don't agree with it.

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Here is another website that really goes through the numbers on global warming. Why are we concentrating on carbon?

http://mysite.verizon.net/mhieb/WVFossi ... _data.html

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Here is a great article by George Will also talking about the wackiness inherent in the discussion of global warming and the environment.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/co ... 02109.html

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Most folks understand that the environmentalist agenda is against cheap energy. I measure cheap energy as low cost in current dollars. The cheapest energy currently is coal and oil. I am not talking about some cost in the future related to global warming, wars or anything else needed to increase the...

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http://svs.gsfc.nasa.gov/stories/greenland/index.html

You know, why don't you try actually reading the NASA information.

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*roll* http://www.sciencemag.org/cgi/content/summary/295/5554/451 http://www.cfact.org/site/view_article.asp?idCategory=4&idarticle=244 http://www.springerlink.com/content/qv02775656m64732/ I could continue with the links, but the real problem with you sarvis is an inability to think and conside...

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In some places, the ice caps are indeed thickening. The reason is because more precipitation is falling which accumulates on the surface. Looking at Antartica specifically, most of the interior can be considered a desert because it receives little snow or rainfall. What if the melting of the ice cap...

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Paper is a poor example. If I write something on paper, but I don't send it to the client, I can toss it into the shredder. We have lots of big bins for shredding. RAM is the same thing as the paper that eventually goes into the shredder. It is temporary.

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My understanding is that this is for torrentspy, right? IP logging can easily be done at the IP level. The real question is the expansion from "they visited" to "what they did on the site". That is a huge amount of data to keep track of every click a person made on a site. Also, ...

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I can not believe there is something I agree with Sarvis about... Saying that the contents have RAM have to be saved as a document similar to how email is saved is loony. All this does is give storage companies more chances to sell storage space and tool to save this data. In addition, it creates re...

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Shame Gore had not invented the internet yet in the 60's and 70's. That way you could have archived the global cooling websites that would have existed.

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Come on Birile. Morally bankrupt? Short sighted and offensive? Putting the value of your or my dollar above anything's life is morally bankrupt? In looking back on your tendencies, I assume you are pro-choice. This means you are for putting convenience over anything's life. I tend to value human lif...

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So really this is about polar bears and penguins? Maybe I'm the lone man in the wilderness, but sacrificing economic growth for polar bears is just dumb. Seriously, other than the fact they are cute and appear in Coke ads, who cares? Rag, you are right, if there is global warming, people will simply...

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You mean software companies do not create much trash? But what do they do with all the 1's and 0's? Come on, any idiot can tell you that a software company is going to be considered environmentally friendly simply by the fact they do not create a physical product. On a side note, this book looks lik...

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People used to think the earth was flat, the earth was the center of the universe, and that the earth was going into a new ice age. All of those people were sure that the 95% of authorities on the subject knew what they were talking about. Just because someone claims to have more education doesn't m...

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Actually, that is not true Sarvis. If environmentalists were for advancement, you would see them more for nuclear and wind. They have always been against nuclear, but the wind opposition is new. Wind is somewhat viable as a small part of the answer, but now that it is, the environmentalists are turn...

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Oh, here's another funny article about predictions for more, not less, rain in the midwest. So much for those models...

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/nation/4875517.html

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These greenhouse gases are around because we are an industrial society, so Sarvis, you are correct. Being against industry is tantamount to being against progress. Carbon has not even been the greenhouse gas that has increased the most. Methane is up way more than carbon. It is a product of the high...

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The problem with "examining the ice caps" is that we do not know what the true average is for them. It is very possible that a hundred years ago was below average for temperature, and if there is warming, it is simply regressing to the mean. The problem with the carbon debate is you have t...

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Warming is going on all through our solar system. We don't know if this is from the sun or where it is coming from. Also, you can't call it global warming because it could easily be some small variation. We simply do not have enough data to even say if the overall pattern is warming or cooling. To a...

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CFC stands for chlorofluorocarbon. Basically, the fear is the chlorine gets shed by the CFC when hit by sunlight. Then the Cl atom bonds with a oxygen atom taking away that atom to form ozone with an O2. ClO is formed and degrades by sunlight with the O bonding with another O to form O2 and a free C...

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