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Body Control never gave off conventional prots, but it *did* protect the user from planar damage like a prot would. When I converted it I kept that aspect in place but did not add any resists. It might work for the skill, but my initial focus was just in preserving what it already did. Also, just a ...

Ok, Malia I'll try to recreate your issue more in depth. Is anyone else having these issues? If so, more detailed logs would be helpful, including output of your resistances active.

We can help with this. Let's talk in-game, and email me a list of the equipment that he has that you think is yours. What character he has it on would be useful as well.

Lase - I didn't see any obvious issues. Looks like you were water embodied, which doubles damage. You were also being attacked by single-target line breath rather than area breath, which does more damage. Have you or anyone else experienced anything else similar?

Muxx - Save vs. breath and Evasion will remain as is for now. Saving vs. damage to can coexist with resisting damage - the two systems aren't at odds with one another. That's not to say that the system won't be overhauled in the future, but for now everything stays as is on the Saves front. Note tha...

Malia - that doesn't seem right. I'll take a look.

Shalath - Yes, those are both next in line to be converted. Those spells work a little differently than the elemental resists so they weren't converted at the same time.

The update notes for 11/29/2009 are available here:

http://www.torilmud.org/news/blogs/index.php/2009/11/29/game-update-new-zone-and-resistances

As always, comments, questions and feedback are welcome.

I'm open to letting you all use them for something, and restrings for a decent number of poitns seems reasonable. The problem is, I'm not sure how many points everyone has. I'll look around and see if the RP sphere left a list somewhere...

Yep, there was a nasty crash bug there. It's fixed now.

Fixed the Izan's crash. Thanks everyone!

Whether a proc recharges only when worn or not is on a per item basis. If there are specific items you want to see changed, post them and I'll take a look.

The game update notes for 11/25/2009 can be found here:

http://www.torilmud.org/news/blogs/index.php/2009/11/25/game-update-new-zone

Questions, comments and feedback are welcome as always.

They've always been bashable - they have a special proc that gives them a chance to avoid bashes though.

Kindi - that's one option certainly, but the problem is the stacking. My proposal will let several pieces of equipment contribute to your overall height/weight modifier (which you can see on identifying the items still). If we go with direct whole size modifiers then there isn't much variance possib...

Just to clarify, those values would be cumulative across all of your equipment. So you could have three -12 height items that would move you one size down, as they total -36. Was that not clear? I was going to start at 24 height and 100 weight originally, but bumped it up when I saw a few of the ite...

Here's what I've come up with, please feel free to provide feedback: ⋅ Height/Weight modifying equipment retains the ability to modify your effective size. ⋅ 36 points of height modification will move you one size category. ⋅ 150 points of weight modification will mo...

Size changes are much more dramatic than a little bit of -height and -weight, hence why this isn't a simple 1:1 conversion. My intention wasn't to ask anyone to justify anything, I'm just inviting you all to be a part of the process to fix this unintended side effect of the new code.

More fixes: ⋅ Dragons, Undead, Demons, Devils, and Golems are now no-stun again. ⋅ Earth elementals have hands again. ⋅ Ogres are now size Large. This applies to players and NPCs. ⋅ Demons and Devils are now Massive. This may change, but is intended to pre...

What do you guys think of time-limited size alterations? For example, let's say that once-per day the faerie cloak could reduce you 3 sizes, for 3 minutes. Would that be useful? Alternately, if anyone would like to debate the pros and cons of allowing permanent size changes from these items, I'd lov...

Here's what I know about the issue: 1) Annam has made some changes to the quest that will go to the live MUD soon. As far as I know the exp has not been downgraded, but I could be wrong. I'll leave it to him to explain the changes and why he's making them. 2) The current exp quest system in general ...

Your argument doesn't make sense. Please provide context.

No, Thrand. The idea is to adjust the races and code to get things mostly correct, and then fix individual mobs on an exception basis. When people post mobs that are not showing the ideal size, I can then find the patterns and adjust things through the code and new racial definitions.

No, you're correct. It would only prevent/allow bashing of mobs that are already one size category removed as currently implemented. None of this is set in stone of course, and I'm completely open to discussing changes to the system.

Thanks guys. One thing though - can you please try to include the zone when it's a more generic sounding mob? Thanks!

Thrand: All characters (whether mob or pc) can only bash within one size level difference. Sorry that wasn't clearer in the news post.

Kindi: That makes sense for the consider command. I'll give some thought on how best to present it.

Will fix the infra bug. I don't think the size comparison is really relevant information anymore, since we have standardized them and the raw information should be more useful. I'm open to arguments the other way though.

There are some fixes coming very soon for this issue.

Please post any mobs you see that appear to have incorrect sizes in this thread. Please provide as much detail as possible - the exact name of the mob in addition to the zone you found them in would be ideal. Thanks in advance for your help!

Lots of fixes: ⋅ Incorporeal undead are incorporeal again. ⋅ Air/Fire elementals are incorporeal again. ⋅ Lore will now work on mobs and will succeed more often. ⋅ Infravision will show the new mob sizes. ⋅ Consider shows the new mob sizes. ⋅&nb...

The fix for undead I made earlier today didn't quite work. It's coming...

Just fixed the most common crash bug - it'll get into the game the next time it crashes.

Fire/Air elementals are incorporeal again - you'll have to re-summon them though. Also fixed Spirit (spirits, ghosts, spectres, etc) race the same way.

Ragorn: 10 is a nice even number, and I wanted to move Giants up a bit for balance purposes without making them the same size class as larger creatures.

Kindi: Thank you, I'll look into all of these ASAP.

Details can be found here:

http://www.torilmud.org/news/blogs/index.php/2009/11/08/game-update-racial-code-expanded

Please feel free to use this thread for comments, feedback, bugs, etc.

I couldn't debug it while hung - it was pretty bad. If anyone has any idea why it may have been hung please let me know via email or PM.

Yes - hasn't been setup on the new box yet. Please use the forums to report issues in the meantime.

Core dumps weren't turned on previously, so the last time I tried to look at it there wasn't anything to investigate. They're on now, so we should be able to take a look now and see what's up if it crashed again today in Izan's. Is that the case? (Core dumps are files generated by crashes that conta...

Hey Sarvis -

Could you try changing your theme to the default proSilver, and then try editing your signature? If that gives you an error message too, it'd be super helpful if you could send me a screenshot at shevarash@gmail.com

Who needs the MUD address on the homepage? We have TWITTER!

The update notes (and detailed information) can be found at:

http://www.torilmud.org/news/blogs/inde ... ace-system

Feel free to leave comments, questions, and feedback in this thread. Thanks!

The address is torilmud.org:9999

There shouldn't be any need to use the IP, but it's currently 216.187.173.89

Our HD crashed and we moved to a new (and temporary) host. The forums were down for several weeks while we transitioned, but as you can see they're back up now. The MUD had a few days of downtime, but has otherwise been up since the HD crash. We were able to recover all files, so there wasn't any pe...

Still working on it. All the feedback I've gotten has said that the current setup is playable except for some occassional latency - if that's changed please let me know.

Hey, fair enough. In this case it didn't have much to do with my dedication and time, but I guess I've earned the rep. I hope you enjoy being able to use the forums again in any case.

Right, because the forums have anything to do with the MUD these days.

Thanks to those voting - every little bit helps! :)

1) Already done - will be in main soon. 2) Already done - will be in main soon. 3) Sounds reasonable. Will do some more more investigating. 4) Updated to 5/5 in the same update as #1 and #2. 5) Sounds reasonable. 6) I think it's going to stay breakable. It's not meant to be a top-tier perma-proc arr...

Working on another batch of conversions - I'll add these to the list. Tia will take a little work, but might as well get it over with.

Not sure, I'll check. There weren't any double weapons in the game when I made this, so they didn't get scrutinized as much as some of the others.

Congratulations you two!

Still a go, yes. I'll put up a post with official times and whatnot sometime this weekend.

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