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kiryan

Ragorn wrote:Also, I'd call security if I saw someone open carrying in a grocery store. And definitely wouldn't shop there again if they permitted it.

Open carry should be subject to the same rules as smoking... establishment owners should be free to permit or ban it as they see fit.

LOL thats hillarious.

kiryan

LOL, but getting your citizenship back might be a bitch.

kiryan

I did most of my early career stuff in Los Angeles. No family, but I was young and my driving goal was to gain as much experience and position as possible (money obviously comes with that, but i'd take a job compensating less if it had more position/respect). I regularly commuted an hour and even co...

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I'm more interested in the philosophical question than how to make it a non issue. I'm more inclined to want to make it as big of an issue as possible since I think many would agree that abortion based on gender of child would be fundamentally wrong. Is it legal gender discrimination to abort a baby...

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If you are pro choice, how do you resolve the question of whether mothers should be able to abort their babies based on their gender. This practice is obviously somewhat cultural and is most often thought of in China and India where the ratio of girls to boys birth may be as low as 850 to 1000. How ...

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Dollar diplomacy was a term used to describe Taiwan's essentially paying countries to establish diplomatic relations and recognize its soverignity by opening up its markets and giving them aid. That all collapsed when China became a more lucrative market and said you recognize us or them. Here's rou...

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Ok heres somethign from the union's perspective I believe. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/leo-hindery-jr/note-to-jim-mcnerney-ceo_b_866089.html McNerney says that "Boeing never sought to threaten or punish [workers] for exercising their rights." Yet the NLRB based its finding on the very sp...

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The problem is the state has taken custody of these people. If we allow the state to treat people inhumanely... what prevents them from treating the next group of people inhumantely? I would rather see us take away their citzenship and deport them to a friendly country... say give South Africa 100k ...

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Money is probably usually the #1 thing, but don't discount the role of bureaucracy. You're dealing with highly intelligent people at the top of society... and forcing them to deal with a government bureaucracy that makes no sense where every time they turn around theres a new subltety to some specif...

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So there is a difference between discriminating against the "unclean ones" in India because they pick up shit with their hands and its not a native part of their being huh? or discriminate against people who wear the American flag on their chest or car or house. Clearly you only have the r...

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i dont understand why you would need unions on working large projects... wouldnt you use sub contractors? unions are bad for large projects because you have to manage all the union rules. This is how you get plumbers sitting around and getting paid $100 bucks an hour because the union stipulated per...

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what would your paramours of race relations reverend jackson and the aclu say?

kiryan

Joe's prison may yet be found to be inhumane. I don't know, being out in 120 degree weather even with shade... doesn't seem very humane to me. We don't have to keep it 68 degrees airconditioning... but more than 100 certainly doesn't seem very humane.

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The problem is dealing with government takes too many resources. Couple that with the low reimbursement rate and why would you want to take more business where you don't make your expenses. ... and then theres the actual folks. I've posted an article in the past on concierge medicine (think subscrip...

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It is an interesting question... I'm not sure I like the court getting involved here, but I think its at least within the realm of reasonability... but i could be wrong. Fact is, california has for numberous years ignored the conditions of their prisons... failed to significantly increase capacity o...

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http://www.foxnews.com/health/2011/05/23/dentists-hesitate-treat-kids-medicaid-study-says/ I hadn't gotten around to posting on this, but heres a related article. You know whats coming next... dentists will have rules/laws written to penalize / prosecute them for considering a patients ability to pa...

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I don't think its disputable that unions had a positive benefit on America and were necessary at a point in time.

However just because the union 100 years ago did good or was good, doesn't mean it is today or is needed today... or is even working in the interests of workers and the American people.

kiryan

you have NO idea whether they're a "gun owner" or just in posession of a gun. == you have NO idea whether they're a lawful immigrant or just an illegal here to take american jobs and sell drugs. I'll be happy to take your family for an outing in the park with a gun to prove the point. If ...

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lol ragorn, how the hell did you know about that. I was reading a book over the weekend trying to influence the reader to adopt vegetarianism and it said one thing that I thought was interesting. Apparently there is a school of thought that believes the original hebrew in genesis uses the exact same...

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ok... heres a question. lets assume the administration knew that there would be fallout over a unilateral raid into Pakistan. and that it could seriously damage our relations with Pakistan... and push Pakistan closer into a relationship with China. (China gives Pakistan 50 fighter jets "immedia...

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and for good measure http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2011/may/19/nhs-hospital-waiting-times-longer NHS budget squeeze to blame for longer waiting times, say doctors == isnt this the magical socialist system of Europe that we want to emulate? Maybe we can fund this as well as the healthcare we do f...

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ok... I'm increasingly wondering what the hell the plan is here... You won't assassinate Kadadffi or capture him, but you'll keep doing things whittling away at his power base until there's a mutiny. and we are doing this why? so that its not a west based overthrow of a islamic regime/dictator? Mayb...

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Time to ban swimming in the interests of public health. It costs $500M a year. Because we share the costs, we have a say on whether you should be able to swim. http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110519/ap_on_he_me/us_med_swimmer_s_ear;_ylt=ArwhGXtyTmHJaqAX0kxdznWs0NUE;_ylu=X3oDMTFkY3F0NnY2BHBvcwMxMzUEc2Vj...

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That is awesome. However the Presbyeterians are right, dogs don't go to heaven. I'm pretty sure the Catholics weren't serious... I especially enjoyed this part. Catholic: "Catholic dogs go to heaven, Presbyeterian dogs can talk to their minister" Presbyeterian: "Converting to Catholic...

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More on these specific lifeguards http://www.foxnews.com/us/2011/05/20/lifeguard-pay-200g-riles-california-beach-city/ Those whose salaries are in question point out that they hold management roles, have decades of service and are considered public safety employees under the fire department, the sam...

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I think vigis is helping to clarify what questions might need to be asked to find out if the SC plant was in the businesses best interests... or whether another reason, retaliation, was primary in the decision. I however agree with Teflor's statement that having a non unionzed plant is a valid busin...

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torkur you made my point exactly. Its discrimiating or profiling gun owners. We can't profile hispanics despite large percentages being illegal or arabs who are by far and large responsible for terrorism, but we can profile people carrying guns, that just makes sense. and i'm the hipocrite. Actuall...

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Well... I don't know when the mother got around to disclosing the fact that she was paid to do this... if she disclosed it upon first contact with CPS (assuming there was a first contact)... Perhaps they saw the reports, took them at face value and thought that a mom admitting to doing injections co...

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Hmm... I don't know how I feel about this one. Mom takes a paid "acting" job by a UK company to basically say she gave her daughter botox. She does subsequent follow up interviews in the US with a couple organizations. CPS sees the reports, takes her daughter away. Was there enough justifi...

kiryan

It is unjustified profiling, which you guys have defined as discrimination and racism and prejudicism and everything other kind of ism.

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and other examples of how unions work. you guys gave them a pass when that dem said we might need to get our hands a little bloody. you really don't understand how powerful unions actually operate and how far they will go to protect their entitlements. http://www.nydailynews.com/ny_local/2011/05/15/...

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Ragorn here's more of that overtime that you say doesn't exist in the public sector. Sarvis, this is how union pay actually works in general. not everywhere but in a lot of places. Cops have these loopholes too. Its a real problem when you have 1 guy making 2x his salary in OT. You should have 3 guy...

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I don't know teflor... let assume there is no business justification for putting the plant in SC. maybe its not retaliation in terms of that specific negotation / contract for the new work because they aren't entitled to it... but couldn't it be retaliation against the union in general? Couldn't you...

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lets say an arab youth is wearing a religious ceremonial knife on his hip and gets called a name and told to turn around to face a police officer pointing a gun at him... because the cop didn't know that carrying a ceremonial knife wasn't a crime. your position is that the left would find this to be...

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I didn't realize they had already basically decided they were guilty. I understand its new work teflor and that the union has no 'right' to it. however, the company has a relationship with the union. If the company takes action against the unions as a means to punish them... even in areas unrelated ...

kiryan

torkur you made my point exactly. Its discrimiating or profiling gun owners. We can't profile hispanics despite large percentages being illegal or arabs who are by far and large responsible for terrorism, but we can profile people carrying guns, that just makes sense. and i'm the hipocrite. -- sarvi...

kiryan

I don't think there is a limit to how the retaliation occurs... a union sued a city in Missouri I think for taking away free coffee and casual fridays after a failed negotiation between the union and the city... Are they entitled to cut services to save mpney, sure but if the primary purpose of that...

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well I agree that theres enough evidence to warrant an investigation... however, barring some internal memos saying it would be against their business interests to open the plant in SC Boeing should prevail in a fair environment. It'll probably be settled somewhat quietly with some sort of concessio...

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ok whatever sarvis. the cop didn't discriminate against gun owners, he was just trying to enforce the law. man walking down the street with a handgun on his hip... im sure just ambling along and that warrants a "Yo, Junior, what are you doing?" No bias displayed there, none whatsoever... a...

kiryan

It's not discrimination, Kiryan. Discrimination: "treatment or consideration of, or making a distinction in favor of or against, a person or thing based on the group, class, or category to which that person or thing belongs rather than on individual merit" This guy does not belong to a gr...

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I actually agree with Ragorn that the case has merit based on the law. The problem is the case has merit. If you want to open a plant in SC fine, if you want to open a plant in SC because the union in Washington won't obey you, thats illegal. I fundamentally disagree it should be illegal. If both op...

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apparently he forced her to give him oral to the point of ejaculation... now she's an immigrant from a country where rape is rampant so maybe she's learned to accept rape when cornered (for fear of worse)... but i find it ever so slightly suspect (and i do mean very slightly) that you can get off wi...

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I'm comparing being discriminated against with being discriminated against. Its funny how you can't see discrimination unless their skin color is black. what the hell are you talking about with this pay thing. I'm not complaining about cop pay. I think in general they have police officer pay about r...

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I didn't see so much in the assange case... possible, but two different women, well known liberal activists? Not the kind of people I would expect to be government agents... but I suppose anything is possible. maybe the influence on the media and the police/court system where antoher person might've...

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The article tries to make the insinuation that the rape claim against the IMF head is a smear campaign. and we thought our politicians played dirty. Bring on the new socialist order so we can get really serious about how we attack our enemies and win elections. Course this is probably wild speculati...

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The problem with proving it to you is that its much like what I suspect we will find with the lifeguard issue. Their salary is listed as X per year, but when you look at what each one actually takes home due to the overtime, shift differentials, and god knows what else, their actual take home is 1.5...

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I agree in principle that an individual doctor can decide to ask if he wants. however, if the doctor is being required to ask by a government mandated program (like medicare) or by state reporting rules and general coercion... and is in fact not asking as a private citizen, but as an agent of the st...

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Uh huh. ignorance is bliss. continue to believe that police officers make 45k a year and a maximum of 55k. fuking idiot. The rodney king beating was inexcusable and horrible. Does anyone remember or even care what happened before the police beat him inexcusably? Does anyone remember the first part o...

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I think its important to consider the forest as well as the trees. We have had some highly contentious issues come before the court where there are clear partisian lines. The bulk of the courts work... I think is politically independent and based on the blind rule of law. Yet because of these issues...

kiryan

You do understand that the right to carry a gun is legally protected by the constitution and the supreme court and that this was a citizen being harassed for doing nothing other than execising his inalienable rights. How is that fundamentally different just because you have a choice to carry a gun? ...

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