I gotta chime in on this because I'm way guilty of botting, and yes, I do it in zones. People who zone with me know they can tell me 'haste', 'globe' etc. for an autospell. I guess if that's illegal, I break the rules.
Do I think it would make me a better player to have to keep up with everything manually? No way, because I've already done that. I will have to agree that without the experience of triggerless zoning, my mediocre zoning skills would be even worse.
Bottomline, make botting legal, or at least put up with it. If you powerlevel, don't have any skills, and suck when you hit 50th, enjoy not getting groups after the first time you cause a spank. If you bot and die, don't you dare get angry about. If your friends want to powerlevel alts, bot for them. If newbs want you to powerlevel them, DONT DO IT. Take the time to exp with them, at your keyboard, teach them, be cool to them, nurture them, if everyone who had a level 50 character spent time with a new player and got them hooked on this game, our pbase would soar.
I'm ranting. Peace.
botting exp
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Olit tells you '2000hrs on each of your 5 corpses'
Dugmaren responds to your petition with 'It'd be less spammy if you just deleted again.'
Lilithelle says 'to divine most peoples fates you need to read palms or tea leaves, but in ionari's you just read the corpses'
Alurissi tells you 'no, you're not safe, you're a suicide machine'
I think making botting legal / tolerated at low level would only hurt the game further. Like sarvis said, no new people are going to join sojourn so that they can sit around endlessly on ship with people botting along, BORING... Need to make exp in zones a lot more, by way of lowering table increasing trophy imho..
I agree, that's what I'm saying... if you're playing with new people, don't bot, TEACH! At the same time, there's no way I'm going to sit through hours and hours of exp at my keyboard for a new character I'm making when I have 90 freakin' RL days on my main. I know it sounds like elitism but as far as the game goes, the more experienced you are, the more you probably WANT to bot exp, and the less I mind you doing it. (Just don't do it with noobs)
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-Cap'n Touk
*disclaimer* I hate doing xp */disclaimer*
OK, let me put it this way (all from a cleric's pov)...
I've seen an experienced player cast full heals on people just because they hadn't healed them in a while, not because they were hurt.
I've seen experienced players not grasp the idea of rolling vits.
These experienced players were not playing their main characters..they were playing alts.
Botting is bad...I know xp sucks, I hate doin it too, but you don't learn how to play your alt by plugging in a few triggers that your buddy sent to ya. You learn it by playing it through the levels. Xp sucks, but dying in a zone because someone doesn't know their job sucks more...that's my opinion anyway.
Now not saying that some of the ideas here are bad..trophy, xp zones, eq zones xp, etc...but botting certainly doesn't help anything. It doesn't help the newbies, and it doesn't help the experienced players either.
My opinion anyway....flame away.
Branthur Stoneforge -=Hearth Guard=-
--Home is where the beer is..
OK, let me put it this way (all from a cleric's pov)...
I've seen an experienced player cast full heals on people just because they hadn't healed them in a while, not because they were hurt.
I've seen experienced players not grasp the idea of rolling vits.
These experienced players were not playing their main characters..they were playing alts.
Botting is bad...I know xp sucks, I hate doin it too, but you don't learn how to play your alt by plugging in a few triggers that your buddy sent to ya. You learn it by playing it through the levels. Xp sucks, but dying in a zone because someone doesn't know their job sucks more...that's my opinion anyway.
Now not saying that some of the ideas here are bad..trophy, xp zones, eq zones xp, etc...but botting certainly doesn't help anything. It doesn't help the newbies, and it doesn't help the experienced players either.
My opinion anyway....flame away.
Branthur Stoneforge -=Hearth Guard=-
--Home is where the beer is..
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