How long have you sat and re-rolled a new character?

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How long have you sat and re-rolled a new character?

Postby rhogben » Thu Jun 27, 2002 7:53 pm

Just wondering...
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Postby Todrael » Thu Jun 27, 2002 7:55 pm

Over 90 hours.

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Postby rhogben » Thu Jun 27, 2002 7:57 pm

What stats did you get with that?
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Postby Todrael » Thu Jun 27, 2002 8:04 pm

1 bad, 1 mundane, 2 goods, 1 mighty, 2 heroics, 1 perfect.

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Postby rhogben » Thu Jun 27, 2002 8:13 pm

I never really understood the rolling process, is it secret? Does it roll the stats from a total so it distributes evenly? Or could you possibly roll all perfects or close to it?
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Postby Galkar » Thu Jun 27, 2002 8:34 pm

Notice how two new players (sorta) have had problems with this lately? Maybe put an quick explanation right before the roll screens that talks about how the roller works, and maybe some examples of good character stats fer a class or two. Just a thought.

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Postby Yayaril » Thu Jun 27, 2002 8:35 pm

It is capable of rolling all perfects, but you have a much better chance of being hit by a meteorite of solid gold.

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Postby Guest » Thu Jun 27, 2002 9:39 pm

From my understanding, the roller was modified on Toril so that the highest average of all *8* stats (after bonuses too)was no higher than 75. Just thought I'd debunk your meteorite theory Yaya. :P

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Postby Grungar » Thu Jun 27, 2002 9:39 pm

Sweet!

Bring on that solid gold, baby.

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Postby Ragorn » Thu Jun 27, 2002 10:36 pm

90 hours is twice as long as it took me to PLAY Final Fantasy X.

And that's just to roll a character to play on Sojourn.

Sheesh, I stopped after 15 minutes and took whatever it gave me. Screw all that jazz.

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Postby gnerble » Thu Jun 27, 2002 10:46 pm

I just tweaked the autoroller script a bit to sum up the averages of all of the stats you were looking for.

Using this method, I tried rolling a grey elf warrior. I said I wanted the first 4 stats (just like the old roller), but instead of the number of matches, I entered the sum of the values for the stats.. (ie choose 4 stats, all heroic, you'd want 4 * 7 = 28)

Deciding that all four mighties would be good, I set the roller to go for 24 or better.

It stopped in about 10 minutes with

STR: Heroic
DEX: Heroic
AGI: Good
CON: Heroic

I put all three on agi and wound up with

STR: Heroic
DEX: Heroic
AGI: Perfect
CON: Heroic

I should really put the link to that discussion up here, if I could find it.

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Postby rhogben » Thu Jun 27, 2002 11:10 pm

what program runs the auto roller script and can I get a copy? pleeeeease...
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Postby Kallinar » Thu Jun 27, 2002 11:14 pm

I do the same thing Gnerble does. To hell with rolling for more than 20 minutes for me. I usually get exactly what I want within 5-15 minutes anyhow. Lucky Ranger am I.

Kallinar sends you sprawling with a powerful 'Would you like to roll again? (y,n)'!
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Postby Mishre » Thu Jun 27, 2002 11:21 pm

when soj3 first opened they moved the bell curve of the stat roller to be higher likely hood of getting mighty+ stats.. (i think, so that ppl could just roll some chars and start playing).. i tried rolling again recently.. took me hours to get stats that i could have gotten before within like 20 mins.. (Maybe i was lucky before and unlucky now) but i think it was changed from when it first opened..

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Postby Guest » Fri Jun 28, 2002 2:36 am

1. The roller hasn't been modified (other than mods for things like bards) since beta opened.

2. You cannot roll all perfects. Don't bother trying.

3. Stats are important in the game, but not as important as some people think.
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Postby Ragorn » Fri Jun 28, 2002 4:35 am

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR><font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Iyachtu:
3. Stats are important in the game, but not as important as some people think.</font><HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Con is by far the most important one, because a couple points in con translate to 50 hit points at level 50. Con is also the only stat you can permanently lose, so having an excess is never bad. Int and wis for casters are also fairly vital, they mean the difference between a 210 second mem and a 170 second mem at low levels. Higher int/wis can really make levelling under 20 go a lot faster.

Strength and dex are almost trivial. The difference between perfect dex and 80 dex is what, -2hit? Maybe your dual wield doesn't go off as often? And my god, there's so much +str and +dex equipment in the game it's silly. I rolled Ilisinth fully knowing that I would wear a shiny crimson ring. It gave me the leeway to accept a "fair" in dex as opposed to shooting for mighty.

It's entirely feasible for a warrior class to put on +20 or more strength and dex within the bounds of "good warrior equipment," so I didn't even worry about min/maxing Ilisinth.

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Postby Croban/Owom » Fri Jun 28, 2002 10:55 am

Think the perm lost con pt was removed.

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Postby Eilorn » Sun Jun 30, 2002 2:08 am

When we reopened, and you could roll while you played, I took 8 hours to roll my bard. I was looking for good stats on top, and good int (cha was automatically going to be good), here's what I got:
STR: 83 AGI: 94 DEX: 89 CON: 78
POW: 45 INT: 80 WIS: 51 CHA: 91

good/heroic/mighty/fair
bad/fair/mundane/mighty

I've never had access to high level eq, so I based my rolls on the equipment I knew. And agi eq, at low levels, is somewhat limited, so I leaned towards higher agi scores. With the eq I have, now, I have all perfects on top, and int/cha. I know I don't wear as much +hp as others might, but, it works for what I've been exposed to.

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Postby Turxx » Sun Jun 30, 2002 2:18 am

like 2-3 hours, without an auto roller
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Postby Malacar » Sun Jun 30, 2002 4:10 pm

An hour.. Maybe two.

STR: 78 AGI: 80 DEX: 55 CON: 96
POW: 65 INT: 100 WIS: 79 CHA: 73

Not too shabby for an enchanter. Wish I had gone higher dex, but I rarely get quaked/tailswept. Image

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Postby Mishre » Sun Jun 30, 2002 10:14 pm

STR: 84 AGI: 96 DEX: 87 CON: 97
POW: 52 INT: 68 WIS: 55 CHA: 40

those are my natural stats.. really didn't take long to roll.. probably about 30 mins decent for a barb warrior.. i can easily get the top row to 100s..

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Postby Drache » Tue Jul 02, 2002 5:11 pm

It's only certain classes that are insanely hard to roll! I find that clerical (shammy, druid) and bard are super hard to roll; Mages aren't too bad, cuz they so puny anyway as far as physical stats. No mage really tanks (psi's too) - the bard, as in my other post, is so hard and annoying to roll. Very annoying if you work and just want 'decent' stats. Average has crap for bonuses and it's a shame that you only see some stats have great bonuses at the high end. I'm kinda new here overall, so I'm giving my somewhat ignorant opinion. I absolutely love this mud and I think it's WAY better than any else I've seen. Also, the evil's are way nicer than any goody so far too, inasmuchas giving out eq and time/help (except for Godsend newbiehelper *our favorite druid we all know who that is ! =P)

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Postby Yayaril » Tue Jul 02, 2002 5:16 pm

I make sure never to reroll for more than 5 minutes.

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Postby Valke » Wed Jul 03, 2002 7:21 am

Ha! I thought rolling was a game in itself. I made a new charater every day so I could roll stats. Ooooh what fun I had. Anyways, I spent a couple of hours a night for about a weak to get Valke stats. as for Grps, I spent about 5 minutes! I love his 79 strength!
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Postby nubug » Sat Jul 20, 2002 10:55 am

like 5 minutes... too damn boring
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Postby Marix » Sat Jul 20, 2002 8:32 pm

2 hours 15 minutes, no auto roller. I watched starwars while i rolled Image.

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