First let me say that enchanters are, if played well one of the most powerful classes in the game.
With that being said..
I thought this might make a decent spell, dunno how twinky it would be because you do need to get the spell off on the target, and it only stops aggro to one person at a time. Also, invokers have been given non-quest 9th and 10th circle spells.
"MEMORY BLUR"
Spell.
Area of effect: <victim>
Aggressive: Yes
Cumulative: Yes
Duration: Dependent on proficiency of caster
Class/Circle: Enchanter 10th
Type of spell: Enchantment
This spell causes the victim's memory to blur, temporarily erasing it's aggro to one person. While this spell is in affect, the mob will not track, summon, etc.
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Dulzuth - General of the 1st Zombie Brigade
Memory Blur
Well Enchanters not only deal with protective magic, but also magic that deals with manipulating sentient minds. Think feeblemind, ray, fumble, etc. They are the more generic type of de-buffer. Charm Person also fits with the generic theme of the class.
The spell I'm proposing would NOT stop the mob from casting, being aggro, etc, but would prevent it from tracking/summoning or dimming to somebody who aggro'd it. Not everybody who aggro'd it, but one person for each time it has been landed on the mob.
The spell shouldn't last long, maybe as long as haste?
Oh well, maybe it would be too powerful when considering game balance.
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Dulzuth - General of the 1st Zombie Brigade
The spell I'm proposing would NOT stop the mob from casting, being aggro, etc, but would prevent it from tracking/summoning or dimming to somebody who aggro'd it. Not everybody who aggro'd it, but one person for each time it has been landed on the mob.
The spell shouldn't last long, maybe as long as haste?
Oh well, maybe it would be too powerful when considering game balance.
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Dulzuth - General of the 1st Zombie Brigade
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR><font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by moritheil:
<B>Corth thinks it's twinky, I bet.
After all, this replicates the mislead? bug that he vociferously fought.
And we know how the admins responded... :P
You have good ideas tho... Keep them coming!</B></font><HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
I wouldn't really say this replicates mislead before it was fixed. It only effects a single target. if anything, this spell is similar to what mislead was originally intended to be. Its better then the original mislead idea because the mob won't run around randomly.
I'm sure, however, that there is some twinkiness that can be done with a mob who doesn't remember he hates your guts.
Corth
<B>Corth thinks it's twinky, I bet.
After all, this replicates the mislead? bug that he vociferously fought.
And we know how the admins responded... :P
You have good ideas tho... Keep them coming!</B></font><HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
I wouldn't really say this replicates mislead before it was fixed. It only effects a single target. if anything, this spell is similar to what mislead was originally intended to be. Its better then the original mislead idea because the mob won't run around randomly.
I'm sure, however, that there is some twinkiness that can be done with a mob who doesn't remember he hates your guts.
Corth
Yeah, us enchanters got enough twink spells. I mean come on.. Who wants that twinky dragonscales spell anyways, we're supposed to take full damage from every shot. Or haste, that spell can be SO abused. Globe too, you should ALWAYS take damage from cold or fireshield. If you don't, it's twinky.
Oh, and constriction... We shouldn't have 1 decent nuke, it's too twinky. And 9th circle to boot. It should be 11th, because it's too twinky at 9th. What? There's no 11th circle? Shit invent one. Enchanters are too powerful!
Kiryan, do me a favor and stop posting idiocy, mmkay? Every class has their abilities.
I'm tired of the 'twinky' label that is going around for everyone on everything. Your opinion is definitely welcome, but wtf is the need to make baseless accusations about enchanters being twinky? There isn't. Stow it, man.
Oh, and constriction... We shouldn't have 1 decent nuke, it's too twinky. And 9th circle to boot. It should be 11th, because it's too twinky at 9th. What? There's no 11th circle? Shit invent one. Enchanters are too powerful!
Kiryan, do me a favor and stop posting idiocy, mmkay? Every class has their abilities.
I'm tired of the 'twinky' label that is going around for everyone on everything. Your opinion is definitely welcome, but wtf is the need to make baseless accusations about enchanters being twinky? There isn't. Stow it, man.
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you dork. idiocy? i have intimate knowledge of enchanters, and i doubt anyone will disagree that enchanters are one of if not the best "twinking" class on sojourn. but let me spell it out for you.
feeblemind, power word blind will let you reduce numerous fights to a defacto single warrior class mob. Major para... not so useful imo with its abyssmal hit rate, but some think its useful for twinking.
Scales, blur, armor gives them excellent ability to tank. id rather be a scaled enchanter with 20 ac than an unscaled/stoned warrior wearing a shield with -100.
haste and constriction is icing on the cake.
memory blur sounds twinky, enc got enough twink spells.
feeblemind, power word blind will let you reduce numerous fights to a defacto single warrior class mob. Major para... not so useful imo with its abyssmal hit rate, but some think its useful for twinking.
Scales, blur, armor gives them excellent ability to tank. id rather be a scaled enchanter with 20 ac than an unscaled/stoned warrior wearing a shield with -100.
haste and constriction is icing on the cake.
memory blur sounds twinky, enc got enough twink spells.
How could a spell that can be resisted, that only wipes one person from aggro for maybe 2-3 minutes at level 50, basically useless on dragons/demons because of MR, be SO twinky that kiryan has to flame this thread and the people who posted in it? Damn that was a long sentence
Kiryan you play enchanter? I thought it was your gf playing since you were always playing your warrior
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[This message has been edited by Dulzuth (edited 03-08-2002).]
Kiryan you play enchanter? I thought it was your gf playing since you were always playing your warrior
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[This message has been edited by Dulzuth (edited 03-08-2002).]
So, playing a class using the full measure of its abilities/spells is twinky Kiryan? I always thought twink described someone who broke the rules, or was clueless. The definition has changed again, eh?
Cool, sign me up as a twink then. I take everything my class has, and I use it. Yes, minor paralysis and sleep too.
Sorry, this post doesn't actually address the initial idea. But the random flame of enchanters from Kiryan... well I couldn't pass it up.
I can't see this spell helping a full group much. Basically another spell to give chanters more range to solo or tag team stuff, like maybe specs in tower for example. Don't believe it's really needed.
Sylvos
Cool, sign me up as a twink then. I take everything my class has, and I use it. Yes, minor paralysis and sleep too.
Sorry, this post doesn't actually address the initial idea. But the random flame of enchanters from Kiryan... well I couldn't pass it up.
I can't see this spell helping a full group much. Basically another spell to give chanters more range to solo or tag team stuff, like maybe specs in tower for example. Don't believe it's really needed.
Sylvos
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no twinky is when a single class can take a multiple mob multiple classes fight and reduce it to a single unclassed mob.
lets not add insult to injury by increasing their arsenal with spells that eliminate memory or track.
power word blind (mob no longer uses skills and melee ability is significantly reduced)
feeblemind (mob no longer a caster)
and im not even going to talk about major para or some of the other things you can use to rape mobs.
lets not add insult to injury by increasing their arsenal with spells that eliminate memory or track.
power word blind (mob no longer uses skills and melee ability is significantly reduced)
feeblemind (mob no longer a caster)
and im not even going to talk about major para or some of the other things you can use to rape mobs.
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR><font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by kiryan:
<B>no twinky is when a single class can take a multiple mob multiple classes fight and reduce it to a single unclassed mob.
</B></font><HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Is there really a definition of that word?
It seems it's more a word that is used when someone wants to annoy other people (not saying this is what you do Kiryan, just using your definition as example of yet an opinion of the word).
I tried taking help on it in-game:
"A "twink" is a term used to describe a player who constantly whines
about the game, constantly badgers the Staff, has no respect for the
Staff or the game they have created, tries to bend the rules to his/her
advantage, and/or makes requests that are against the rules because
he/she can't accept his/her own mistakes."
*scratch* is it me that is confused or is there really no agreement on the meaning of 'twinky' and 'twink'?
<B>no twinky is when a single class can take a multiple mob multiple classes fight and reduce it to a single unclassed mob.
</B></font><HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Is there really a definition of that word?
It seems it's more a word that is used when someone wants to annoy other people (not saying this is what you do Kiryan, just using your definition as example of yet an opinion of the word).
I tried taking help on it in-game:
"A "twink" is a term used to describe a player who constantly whines
about the game, constantly badgers the Staff, has no respect for the
Staff or the game they have created, tries to bend the rules to his/her
advantage, and/or makes requests that are against the rules because
he/she can't accept his/her own mistakes."
*scratch* is it me that is confused or is there really no agreement on the meaning of 'twinky' and 'twink'?
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