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BANISHMENT
Spell.
Area of effect: victim
Aggressive: Yes
Cumulative: No
Duration: Permanent
Class/Circle: Cleric 9th
Type of spell: Spellcast summoning
A banishment spell will only work on summoned extraplanar creatures. The spell, when successful, uses the cleric's deity to force the targeted creature back to its own plane of existance. This spell will only work on a creature of lesser experience than the cleric.
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Thoughts?
Dornax
Jurdex
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The Raven of Wisdom
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Banishment (New Cleric Spell?)
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Hmm...I'm thinking No. You realize how powerful it would be? Basically you could walk into a room with any summoned demon/devil/elemental/spirit/etc and boom, single cast they are gone.
Basically instant kill for any summoned mob smaller than you, I can't see how this is good for balance...
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Gargauth the Outcast
[This message has been edited by Gargamel (edited 05-23-2002).]
Basically instant kill for any summoned mob smaller than you, I can't see how this is good for balance...
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Gargauth the Outcast
[This message has been edited by Gargamel (edited 05-23-2002).]
The spell could have restrictions and be perfectly balanced to the game.
Do remember that this would likely only work on the prime material plane. Also, most mobs summoned in have magic resistance and could then also save versus the spell. I don't see how it is any more powerful than assassinate, considering it would be limited a great deal.
Dornax
Jurdex
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The Raven of Wisdom
Est Sularus Oth Mithas
"My Honor is My Life"
Do remember that this would likely only work on the prime material plane. Also, most mobs summoned in have magic resistance and could then also save versus the spell. I don't see how it is any more powerful than assassinate, considering it would be limited a great deal.
Dornax
Jurdex
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The Raven of Wisdom
Est Sularus Oth Mithas
"My Honor is My Life"
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How about this only effecting demons that have been recently summoned? such as a marilith summoning a succubus, you banish her back b/c she's um tired from getting here?
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If this spell worked only on the gated in hoardes of devils and demons that so often get gated in by greater demons, this would be fine, and easily balanced. The mobs get a save, of course and it will only affect one monster at a time. Unles you have 5 clerics, you've still got to balance silencing, healing, etc with this new spell. . .and demons are gated in 3 or more at a time anyway. . give the spell a longer chant time. .. seems pretty balanced to me.
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--- I don't see how it is any more powerful than assassinate, considering it would be limited a great deal. ---
Well, the difference is, that you could cast it over and over and over, where as assassinate can only be used once every what..24 mins or something like that?
And sure, we could make it a skill, but again, it would just make some fights twinky imho. I personally am not a fan of this.
-Garg
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Gargauth the Outcast
Well, the difference is, that you could cast it over and over and over, where as assassinate can only be used once every what..24 mins or something like that?
And sure, we could make it a skill, but again, it would just make some fights twinky imho. I personally am not a fan of this.
-Garg
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Gargauth the Outcast
I would find it cool if it just teleports the mob to elsewhere in the zone. It could really make things dicey, as you'd have to fight one less fiend, but you'd also have to worry about it dimming back in afterwards.
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There are a lot of ways this could be balanced. It might only affect low ranking gated demons like dretches and lemures while barbazu, cornugons, and other bigger things would ignore it. It could have a long casting time. But all these things mean that it probably wouldn't be useful since many demon fights tend to require lots of healing. I think it would be more feasible and useful to make a cleric spell that specifically hurts demons, celestials, and other extraplanar beings, kind of like the anti-undead spells.
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I think the need for some sort of anti-demon spells is undeniable.
It need not be banishment as written, but anti-demon spells are one of the major components missing on sojourn (both balance-wise and to match the gaming universe).
As it stands, demons and devils severely change the balance of some fights. While I won't argue that these fights should be made easy by any single spell, it would be a boon to players to not feel so helpless against the summoned hordes.
It would also be nice to see the protection-from-summoned-creatures effects of protection vs. evil/good implemented. Similar protection to prot vs. animals or undead is what I have in mind. Only the rare "small" demons would be impacted.
Regards,
Jorus
It need not be banishment as written, but anti-demon spells are one of the major components missing on sojourn (both balance-wise and to match the gaming universe).
As it stands, demons and devils severely change the balance of some fights. While I won't argue that these fights should be made easy by any single spell, it would be a boon to players to not feel so helpless against the summoned hordes.
It would also be nice to see the protection-from-summoned-creatures effects of protection vs. evil/good implemented. Similar protection to prot vs. animals or undead is what I have in mind. Only the rare "small" demons would be impacted.
Regards,
Jorus
I think the spell would be pretty balanced if it only worked on summoned/gated in creatures like someone suggested. Only works on mobs lower level than the caster of course, which I think most summoned devils and stuff are. Naturally, having it work against big demons and normal residents of a plane would be bad.
But it would be cool to be able to zap one of the devils that a barbazu or conugon gates in
But it would be cool to be able to zap one of the devils that a barbazu or conugon gates in
It would also be nice to see the protection-from-summoned-creatures effects of protection vs. evil/good implemented. Similar protection to prot vs. animals or undead is what I have in mind. Only the rare "small" demons would be impacted.
Regards,
Jorus[/B][/QUOTE]
In a game I use to play there was a cleric ability called "create holy ground" it stopped all combat until a player attacked or used an offensive spell. So you could stand and stare at the demon and he stared at you as long as you didn't attack, but only worked in that room if you left and it tracked you lost the benefit of the holy ground. This was a special gift given to you by your "god" and could only be used every so many hours etc.
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Jorus[/B][/QUOTE]
In a game I use to play there was a cleric ability called "create holy ground" it stopped all combat until a player attacked or used an offensive spell. So you could stand and stare at the demon and he stared at you as long as you didn't attack, but only worked in that room if you left and it tracked you lost the benefit of the holy ground. This was a special gift given to you by your "god" and could only be used every so many hours etc.
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