Identify
Identify
make it so when you ID something it tells you where it is worn.....
obj_type==worn == lot of info, thanks :P
is anoying when id'n alot of stuff and having to figure out where its worn, yes most are obvious, but some can be worn in different places, and some things you would think are worn one spot but realy worn another..
think about pink snake pits
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MoM-D
obj_type==worn == lot of info, thanks :P
is anoying when id'n alot of stuff and having to figure out where its worn, yes most are obvious, but some can be worn in different places, and some things you would think are worn one spot but realy worn another..
think about pink snake pits
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MoM-D
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR><font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Ragorn:
<B>I worship your zmud knowledge, Ari.
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Gah. Talk about some buggy functions that take side-effects from (seemingly) irrelevant things. The way the manual shows it, updating a database record should be one or two commands, tops. As if.
Who would have thought that a function that says it lets you place data into a record (specified as a parameter..: #DBPUT record "data") would just happen to only do so if that record is currently being viewed in the database UI?
But if the item isn't currently being displayed.. well.. you get multiple items all thinking they're the same record (huh? you say.. me too), and some deleted records (namely the one you were trying to update), and a mess overall.
Oh, that, and there being no easy way to just move the "focus" to an arbitrary record. Yeah, fun.
What I ended up having to do to update a single record is manipulate the UI (via scripting) to create a new filter to only show items with the correct record-number, set all the fields not defined for the "new" item to a null value (to force over-writing of old, bad stats), THEN copy this over the old item. After that, I have to remove the filter.
Oh, and trying to set the value of a calculated database field is a mistake, too (apparently) as it causes some big zmud parsing exception (fortunately not a crash) rather than just ignoring the assignment.
Tsk, side-effects irritate me.
Regards,
Jorus
<B>I worship your zmud knowledge, Ari.
</B></font><HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Gah. Talk about some buggy functions that take side-effects from (seemingly) irrelevant things. The way the manual shows it, updating a database record should be one or two commands, tops. As if.
Who would have thought that a function that says it lets you place data into a record (specified as a parameter..: #DBPUT record "data") would just happen to only do so if that record is currently being viewed in the database UI?
But if the item isn't currently being displayed.. well.. you get multiple items all thinking they're the same record (huh? you say.. me too), and some deleted records (namely the one you were trying to update), and a mess overall.
Oh, that, and there being no easy way to just move the "focus" to an arbitrary record. Yeah, fun.
What I ended up having to do to update a single record is manipulate the UI (via scripting) to create a new filter to only show items with the correct record-number, set all the fields not defined for the "new" item to a null value (to force over-writing of old, bad stats), THEN copy this over the old item. After that, I have to remove the filter.
Oh, and trying to set the value of a calculated database field is a mistake, too (apparently) as it causes some big zmud parsing exception (fortunately not a crash) rather than just ignoring the assignment.
Tsk, side-effects irritate me.
Regards,
Jorus
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR><font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Jorus:
(huh? you say.. me too)</font><HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Actually, I said this about the whole dern post :P
emote needs to learn more about databases?
-Nikelon/Dizhes
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Nobody's perfect.
I'm nobody.
(huh? you say.. me too)</font><HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Actually, I said this about the whole dern post :P
emote needs to learn more about databases?
-Nikelon/Dizhes
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Nobody's perfect.
I'm nobody.
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR><font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by moritheil:
<B>I know of a grey elf who deleted 5,000 rooms of mapping trying to remap a zone
</B></font><HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
ask Yahli about me and OLC ..
snort
go ansi!!
go mapper :P
Trewe tells you 'Lliira did you crash the mud again?? And dear don't forget the &n at the end of the line when you are changing ansi.' (doh me)
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Ambar -= Beloved Matron =- Crimson Coalition
<B>I know of a grey elf who deleted 5,000 rooms of mapping trying to remap a zone
</B></font><HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
ask Yahli about me and OLC ..
snort
go ansi!!
go mapper :P
Trewe tells you 'Lliira did you crash the mud again?? And dear don't forget the &n at the end of the line when you are changing ansi.' (doh me)
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Ambar -= Beloved Matron =- Crimson Coalition
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR><font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Zoldren:
<B>thanks o wise one..you forgot one thing some things can be worn on more than one slot, anyone dumbasses asside...
</B></font><HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Omg, zoldren whiped out his ego again and had to attack me...ugh, when will he learn big ego + childish remarks < maturity and intelligence.
Excuse me if you want to be lazy and stuff, cross dresser, but i owned you on one post and will not hesitate to do it again. There are things on this mud that are a fluff, and there are things on this mud that are necessary...seeing where you can wear an item through identify to save you 2 seconds of typing is fluff. I can tolorate your laziness irl cuz i dont know you or care to, but here we must share the same space every once in a while. so don't throw around your 3rd grade insults my way, and start to bring up things that should be fixed, k?
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Fotex group-says 'Behold! penis!'
Dartan tells you 'i own so hard sometimes it makes me want to cry'
[This message has been edited by Kifle (edited 10-19-2002).]
<B>thanks o wise one..you forgot one thing some things can be worn on more than one slot, anyone dumbasses asside...
</B></font><HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Omg, zoldren whiped out his ego again and had to attack me...ugh, when will he learn big ego + childish remarks < maturity and intelligence.
Excuse me if you want to be lazy and stuff, cross dresser, but i owned you on one post and will not hesitate to do it again. There are things on this mud that are a fluff, and there are things on this mud that are necessary...seeing where you can wear an item through identify to save you 2 seconds of typing is fluff. I can tolorate your laziness irl cuz i dont know you or care to, but here we must share the same space every once in a while. so don't throw around your 3rd grade insults my way, and start to bring up things that should be fixed, k?
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Fotex group-says 'Behold! penis!'
Dartan tells you 'i own so hard sometimes it makes me want to cry'
[This message has been edited by Kifle (edited 10-19-2002).]
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR><font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Kifle:
<B> Omg, zoldren whiped out his ego again and had to attack me...ugh, when will he learn big ego + childish remarks < maturity and intelligence.
Excuse me if you want to be lazy and stuff, cross dresser, but i owned you on one post and will not hesitate to do it again. There are things on this mud that are a fluff, and there are things on this mud that are necessary...seeing where you can wear an item through identify to save you 2 seconds of typing is fluff. I can tolorate your laziness irl cuz i dont know you or care to, but here we must share the same space every once in a while. so don't throw around your 3rd grade insults my way, and start to bring up things that should be fixed, k?
</B></font><HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
could have kept it real simple, stay out of my threads and i'll stay out of yours, i have yet to see you add anything constructive to any thread
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MoM-D
<B> Omg, zoldren whiped out his ego again and had to attack me...ugh, when will he learn big ego + childish remarks < maturity and intelligence.
Excuse me if you want to be lazy and stuff, cross dresser, but i owned you on one post and will not hesitate to do it again. There are things on this mud that are a fluff, and there are things on this mud that are necessary...seeing where you can wear an item through identify to save you 2 seconds of typing is fluff. I can tolorate your laziness irl cuz i dont know you or care to, but here we must share the same space every once in a while. so don't throw around your 3rd grade insults my way, and start to bring up things that should be fixed, k?
</B></font><HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
could have kept it real simple, stay out of my threads and i'll stay out of yours, i have yet to see you add anything constructive to any thread
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MoM-D
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR><font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by kiryan:
<B>>when will he learn big ego + childish remarks < maturity and intelligence.
this coming from the guy who has the following in his sig...
>Fotex group-says 'Behold! penis!'
vote kifle for maturity and intelligence!
</B></font><HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Downgrade king,
there is a big difference between humor and maturity, you obiously dont have either.
Ambar,
Yes, this is the idea's thread, but i have also only done in this thread that zoldren has done to scores of threads...it is not a lie that this is not a necessary tweak to the code. It is not a lie that there are more important things that would make the game run much more smoothly that get passed over. I was just stating a point and he had to come out and flame me. For what, doing what he does...that is insane if he can attempt to justify his insults.
Zoldren,
I will consider this a deal, but lets up to to not to reply to each others posts in a thread and it will work much better. And to your comment about me never adding anything constructive...well...look through some threads once in a while, i am sure you will find something. Unless you are just too stubborn to admit you are wrong and said that out of spite...
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Fotex group-says 'Behold! penis!'
Dartan tells you 'i own so hard sometimes it makes me want to cry'
<B>>when will he learn big ego + childish remarks < maturity and intelligence.
this coming from the guy who has the following in his sig...
>Fotex group-says 'Behold! penis!'
vote kifle for maturity and intelligence!
</B></font><HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Downgrade king,
there is a big difference between humor and maturity, you obiously dont have either.
Ambar,
Yes, this is the idea's thread, but i have also only done in this thread that zoldren has done to scores of threads...it is not a lie that this is not a necessary tweak to the code. It is not a lie that there are more important things that would make the game run much more smoothly that get passed over. I was just stating a point and he had to come out and flame me. For what, doing what he does...that is insane if he can attempt to justify his insults.
Zoldren,
I will consider this a deal, but lets up to to not to reply to each others posts in a thread and it will work much better. And to your comment about me never adding anything constructive...well...look through some threads once in a while, i am sure you will find something. Unless you are just too stubborn to admit you are wrong and said that out of spite...
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Fotex group-says 'Behold! penis!'
Dartan tells you 'i own so hard sometimes it makes me want to cry'
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Zold, I went to look and found significantly more constructive than unconstructive posts/replies by Kifle.
Constructive:
http://www.sojourn3.org/ubb/Forum6/HTML/001354.html
http://www.sojourn3.org/ubb/Forum6/HTML/001367.html
http://www.sojourn3.org/ubb/Forum6/HTML/001371.html
http://www.sojourn3.org/ubb/Forum6/HTML/001372.html
http://www.sojourn3.org/ubb/Forum6/HTML/001432.html
Unconstructive:
http://www.sojourn3.org/ubb/Forum6/HTML/001386.html
http://www.sojourn3.org/ubb/Forum6/HTML/001849.html
http://www.sojourn3.org/ubb/Forum6/HTML/001954.html
Note that the unconstructives are VERY unconstructive though
As regards the current topic, I think this is quite a good idea. As Zoldren mentioned, there are items which go in multiple slots. Trying to wear them when fully equipped only lets you know if one slot is filled, if I'm not wrong. I don't know how much work that would be though, and certainly wouldn't dare opine what priority it should be if it were possible, and going to be implemented
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Cherzra- "My only innate is max 10 evils on"
Constructive:
http://www.sojourn3.org/ubb/Forum6/HTML/001354.html
http://www.sojourn3.org/ubb/Forum6/HTML/001367.html
http://www.sojourn3.org/ubb/Forum6/HTML/001371.html
http://www.sojourn3.org/ubb/Forum6/HTML/001372.html
http://www.sojourn3.org/ubb/Forum6/HTML/001432.html
Unconstructive:
http://www.sojourn3.org/ubb/Forum6/HTML/001386.html
http://www.sojourn3.org/ubb/Forum6/HTML/001849.html
http://www.sojourn3.org/ubb/Forum6/HTML/001954.html
Note that the unconstructives are VERY unconstructive though
As regards the current topic, I think this is quite a good idea. As Zoldren mentioned, there are items which go in multiple slots. Trying to wear them when fully equipped only lets you know if one slot is filled, if I'm not wrong. I don't know how much work that would be though, and certainly wouldn't dare opine what priority it should be if it were possible, and going to be implemented
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Cherzra- "My only innate is max 10 evils on"
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR><font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Xisiqomelir:
I don't know how much work that would be though, and certainly wouldn't dare opine what priority it should be if it were possible, and going to be implemented </font><HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
It was added about two weeks ago. RTFN
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-Todrael Azz'miala, Ravager
[This message has been edited by Todrael (edited 10-21-2002).]
I don't know how much work that would be though, and certainly wouldn't dare opine what priority it should be if it were possible, and going to be implemented </font><HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
It was added about two weeks ago. RTFN
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-Todrael Azz'miala, Ravager
[This message has been edited by Todrael (edited 10-21-2002).]
Oh, and as for Kifle's "constructive" posts. Her last post in this thread had to be the best advice I ever got.
http://www.sojourn3.org/ubb/Forum2/HTML/000618.html
http://www.sojourn3.org/ubb/Forum2/HTML/000618.html
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