A Cry for more 're-mort' quests
A Cry for more \'re-mort\' quests
From my perspective of just over 9 years on this mud (THANK YOU MIAX), i'd say i'm still not one of the 'leet zoners or leaders' and most likely won't ever be. However, I can say that I have seen and completed more than my fair share of quests. At least enough to call myself an "above average" questor.
With all due respect, from the quests i've seen I'd say the most impressive 'effect' or reward of a quest is the lich quest.
However, this brings up an intersting line of thought. Why are necros the only class with a remort quest. I understand that originally they needed an upper hand to 'band-aid' an otherwise zone-useful minimalized class. I feel that the mud has evoloved past that point now.
What I might suggest (flame as you will) is a remort quest for certain 'less' desireable class/race combos.
i.e. allow a remort quest for a level 50 human warrior to become....
a level 30 human monk...
a level 30 beserker...
or some kinda similar code that already 'exists' though may be in need of repair.
Perhaps even set them back to a level 1 monk with 0 skills...kinda like EARNING the right to roll a monk...oh heck i dunno.
i'm NOT implying that it should just be humans or just be warriors...this is simply a jump off point...
I'd like to hear what other players could come up with for 're-mort' ideas for class race combo and what they would remort to...perhaps what the benefits/drawbacks of the quest would be...
just curious if this idea has ever been toyed with...not to take ANYTHING away frm lich...they ROCK..just with the MUD in it's current incarnation it seems most people have at least 1 level 50 if not multiples and an 'epic' quest (stole the term from everquest sorry!) might give other class/race combos something to shoot for..
I.e. perhaps for a 50 human warrior to get to be a level 30 monk...
they have to 1...level a human warrior to 50 (ouch)
2. achieve a certain 'prestige' level
3. train as an unarmed combatant (i.e. the story of the quest.)
4 and return a BOATLOAD of high level items to the temple as a donation...kinda like the price of the dagger of oblivion OWIE hehe
once again please...i'm not the 'leet' heh just had an idea and was intersted in other peoples ideas on what could be a cool remort idea..
[This message has been edited by Myre (edited 01-19-2003).]
With all due respect, from the quests i've seen I'd say the most impressive 'effect' or reward of a quest is the lich quest.
However, this brings up an intersting line of thought. Why are necros the only class with a remort quest. I understand that originally they needed an upper hand to 'band-aid' an otherwise zone-useful minimalized class. I feel that the mud has evoloved past that point now.
What I might suggest (flame as you will) is a remort quest for certain 'less' desireable class/race combos.
i.e. allow a remort quest for a level 50 human warrior to become....
a level 30 human monk...
a level 30 beserker...
or some kinda similar code that already 'exists' though may be in need of repair.
Perhaps even set them back to a level 1 monk with 0 skills...kinda like EARNING the right to roll a monk...oh heck i dunno.
i'm NOT implying that it should just be humans or just be warriors...this is simply a jump off point...
I'd like to hear what other players could come up with for 're-mort' ideas for class race combo and what they would remort to...perhaps what the benefits/drawbacks of the quest would be...
just curious if this idea has ever been toyed with...not to take ANYTHING away frm lich...they ROCK..just with the MUD in it's current incarnation it seems most people have at least 1 level 50 if not multiples and an 'epic' quest (stole the term from everquest sorry!) might give other class/race combos something to shoot for..
I.e. perhaps for a 50 human warrior to get to be a level 30 monk...
they have to 1...level a human warrior to 50 (ouch)
2. achieve a certain 'prestige' level
3. train as an unarmed combatant (i.e. the story of the quest.)
4 and return a BOATLOAD of high level items to the temple as a donation...kinda like the price of the dagger of oblivion OWIE hehe
once again please...i'm not the 'leet' heh just had an idea and was intersted in other peoples ideas on what could be a cool remort idea..
[This message has been edited by Myre (edited 01-19-2003).]
perhaps a 'death knight' remort quests for anti-paladins...
that just give them the
!eat !drink flag and a fear aura....?
perhaps a nightmare to ride instead of a coal black charger?
The point was brought up that people will bitch cause the quest won't have enough benefits for how hard it will be...
GOOD POINT..
but honestly ..it's for the few benefits that ALL of us quest...
perfect example silver band vs. nightshade...couple points of ac and 10 hps...is that worth a quest? to us.. YES..
[This message has been edited by Myre (edited 01-19-2003).]
[This message has been edited by Myre (edited 01-19-2003).]
that just give them the
!eat !drink flag and a fear aura....?
perhaps a nightmare to ride instead of a coal black charger?
The point was brought up that people will bitch cause the quest won't have enough benefits for how hard it will be...
GOOD POINT..
but honestly ..it's for the few benefits that ALL of us quest...
perfect example silver band vs. nightshade...couple points of ac and 10 hps...is that worth a quest? to us.. YES..
[This message has been edited by Myre (edited 01-19-2003).]
[This message has been edited by Myre (edited 01-19-2003).]
The death-kinght idea is cool. I dont think allowing a class to change to something differant such as warrior to monk or beserker would be good for the mud.
A progression of the class, such as necro to lich or as you mentioned anti to deathknight would have some cool story potential and fit in with the mud I think. Perhaps something for palidans to ascend to a holy guardian. shrug. Either way, it should be limited to those classes with severe race restrictions (pal/anti are human only for example).
A progression of the class, such as necro to lich or as you mentioned anti to deathknight would have some cool story potential and fit in with the mud I think. Perhaps something for palidans to ascend to a holy guardian. shrug. Either way, it should be limited to those classes with severe race restrictions (pal/anti are human only for example).
Myself, I have always liked the idea of paladins and anti's being able to remort into some kinda of avatar for their respective gods. Nothing over powering, but something that made them fun without changing their tank/hitter status. Maybe a few skills here and there, perma fly, a few more hps. Something similar to a death knight, but more closely aligned to their status as a paladin. (Anti paladins being holy knights for an unholy god and all.)
-Zen
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-Zen
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The Lord of the Iron Wastes holds his hammer high in the air, shouting a torment... 'Weak fools!'
Remorts have to be one of the coolest things. Since the majority of the mud is old school, there is something needed to sustain interest. I would think that since most people have high lvl alts, people are getting really bored with the classes offered or they have mastered their main. I for one, would love to see more remorts available for different classes. I don't have many good ideas at this time, but if the gods say they would think about doing this, which in the past i think i recall them being adamently against it, I would be more than happy to put some time into the ideas.
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Let me rain on your parade a minute.
Remorts for the most part are more powerful than your normal character, correct?
We already have balance issues with the characters we CAN play. Introducing a new way for players to attain things more easily will turn this place into a Merc MUD
How about we try for a minimum level of balance with the class/race combinations we have now, the eq/fights we have now, and the spells/melee we have now before moving onto making players stronger from the beginning.
Twinshadow
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Remorts for the most part are more powerful than your normal character, correct?
We already have balance issues with the characters we CAN play. Introducing a new way for players to attain things more easily will turn this place into a Merc MUD
How about we try for a minimum level of balance with the class/race combinations we have now, the eq/fights we have now, and the spells/melee we have now before moving onto making players stronger from the beginning.
Twinshadow
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I think ilshad is on crack and needs to go to narcanon. Illusionists are tough yeah, but taking them out of the game is retarded. Same with elementalists. The real problem is area spells all around. This makes fights like 2nd gatehouse a joke. Splitting the rogue class is retarded for a few simple reasons. Rogues aren't over powered. Woohoo, you mean i can solo a midlvl piece of eq? wow, downgrade me! Oh, so i can sneak into a dangerous place, for what? i cant do anything in there except map so me and my friends can go there later and have fun...but the mud isn't designed for fun is it? Melee damage is a joke unless you are doing exp at mid lvls.
Ilshad, please go back to writing annoying zones and leave the gameplay stuff to the players and coders.
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Ilshad, please go back to writing annoying zones and leave the gameplay stuff to the players and coders.
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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR><font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Corth:
<B>if illusionists get deleted from the game can i have corth made into an invoker?!
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Get druid or cleric or shaman with lots of time on their hands.
Suicide on casino bouncer to level 1. Pres all the corpses lots.
Delete character.
Roll character named corth.
Ress, a LOT.
I estimate you'd probably hit around level 37 or 40ish
G
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<B>if illusionists get deleted from the game can i have corth made into an invoker?!
</B></font><HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Get druid or cleric or shaman with lots of time on their hands.
Suicide on casino bouncer to level 1. Pres all the corpses lots.
Delete character.
Roll character named corth.
Ress, a LOT.
I estimate you'd probably hit around level 37 or 40ish
G
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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR><font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Gerad:
<B> Get druid or cleric or shaman with lots of time on their hands.
Suicide on casino bouncer to level 1. Pres all the corpses lots.
Delete character.
Roll character named corth.
Ress, a LOT.
I estimate you'd probably hit around level 37 or 40ish
</B></font><HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
I estimate you'd DEFINITELY hit around level 1 when we find out about it, too.
-k
<B> Get druid or cleric or shaman with lots of time on their hands.
Suicide on casino bouncer to level 1. Pres all the corpses lots.
Delete character.
Roll character named corth.
Ress, a LOT.
I estimate you'd probably hit around level 37 or 40ish
</B></font><HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
I estimate you'd DEFINITELY hit around level 1 when we find out about it, too.
-k
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR><font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Gerad:
<B> Get druid or cleric or shaman with lots of time on their hands.
Suicide on casino bouncer to level 1. Pres all the corpses lots.
Delete character.
Roll character named corth.
Ress, a LOT.
I estimate you'd probably hit around level 37 or 40ish
G
</B></font><HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
I tried that once, I got about 3 levels down when Shevy froze me. I think his exact words were 'Stop spamming me, or die like a monkey.'
Need less to say, I stopped spamming him and died like a monkey, but I was laughing to hard at the time to bother with details like that.
-Lorgan
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The Lord of the Iron Wastes holds his hammer high in the air, shouting a torment... 'Weak fools!'
<B> Get druid or cleric or shaman with lots of time on their hands.
Suicide on casino bouncer to level 1. Pres all the corpses lots.
Delete character.
Roll character named corth.
Ress, a LOT.
I estimate you'd probably hit around level 37 or 40ish
G
</B></font><HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
I tried that once, I got about 3 levels down when Shevy froze me. I think his exact words were 'Stop spamming me, or die like a monkey.'
Need less to say, I stopped spamming him and died like a monkey, but I was laughing to hard at the time to bother with details like that.
-Lorgan
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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR><font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Kossuth:
<B> I estimate you'd DEFINITELY hit around level 1 when we find out about it, too.
-k</B></font><HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
No worries Kossie, taken care of in code.
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<B> I estimate you'd DEFINITELY hit around level 1 when we find out about it, too.
-k</B></font><HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
No worries Kossie, taken care of in code.
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Azuth God of Wizardry and Majiks
Miax : (51) [ Im totally addicted to the mud again.. ]
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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR><font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Azuth:
<B> No worries Kossie, taken care of in code.
</B></font><HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Yeah, I thought it used to be coded impossible too.
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<B> No worries Kossie, taken care of in code.
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Yeah, I thought it used to be coded impossible too.
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