So, who wants 3 West Back?

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So, who wants 3 West Back?

Postby Yayaril » Mon Feb 21, 2005 4:38 pm

8)

If you do, then someone has to give me webspace, and I'll need quite a bit of it.
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Postby Sarvis » Mon Feb 21, 2005 4:41 pm

Err... how much? And how high would the server demands be?

I'm running a fairly small webserver for my resume and a project I'm working on, from my mom's dual P400 and on my cablemodem connection.

I'm not too worried about my bandwidth being slow, but technically I'm not allowed to run a server at all... so I'm not sure how worried I should be about a lot of traffic drawing their attention to me.

I could probably do it though.
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Postby Ruxur » Mon Feb 21, 2005 4:47 pm

Yayaril, i have a 500 mb telana account that im not using.

right now its routed to www.helpsoutheastasia.us

im not opposed to changing the domain name.


its yours if you want it hope its enough
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Postby Sarvis » Mon Feb 21, 2005 4:55 pm

Oh sure, go and make a better offer! ;)
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Postby Bilraex » Mon Feb 21, 2005 6:01 pm

Im the sysadmin for a webhosting company, so if you need space and bandwidth ive got a crapload here, I still have the old 3west comics there.
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Postby Disoputlip » Mon Feb 21, 2005 7:20 pm

Yes please. Especially about roleplay (and cave-elfs).


In case anyone has been on the moon or something then the 3west comics are placed here:

http://umbra.excidium.net/3west/
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Postby Yayaril » Tue Feb 22, 2005 3:21 am

8)

I plan on bringing 3 west back as a monthly flash movie comic, so it will require more space and bandwidth than usual. Anyone who is interested in hosting it, please send me a message.
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Postby Azenilsee » Tue Feb 22, 2005 7:57 am

Sorry if this sounds like I'm an art critic, but wouldn't it be better to just retain the old image format and host it at a image hosting site like imageshack.us?
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Postby Lahgen » Tue Feb 22, 2005 11:03 am

Not everyone uses flash.

That said, I just read through the old stuff, and it's quite good. :D I can hardly wait to see more.
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Postby Jhorr » Tue Feb 22, 2005 2:01 pm

OMFG. Hilarious!
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i'm excited :D

Postby muma » Tue Feb 22, 2005 2:43 pm

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Postby Kifle » Tue Feb 22, 2005 6:02 pm

I'd rather see a flash cartoon. It'd give him a lot more options which would make the comic better.

If you don't have flash...download it and stop being lazy.
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Postby Llaaldara » Tue Feb 22, 2005 6:52 pm

Kifle wrote:I'd rather see a flash cartoon. It'd give him a lot more options which would make the comic better.

If you don't have flash...download it and stop being lazy.



Shrug. Order of the Stick is pretty dam funny and it's not flash. Atleast it's colored tho. :\
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Postby Kifle » Tue Feb 22, 2005 8:51 pm

Llaaldara wrote:
Kifle wrote:I'd rather see a flash cartoon. It'd give him a lot more options which would make the comic better.

If you don't have flash...download it and stop being lazy.



Shrug. Order of the Stick is pretty dam funny and it's not flash. Atleast it's colored tho. :\


Which has absolutely nothing to do with what I just said..thanks.
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Postby sok » Tue Feb 22, 2005 10:47 pm

i can't believe u haven't made millions from those comics yet.

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Postby Sarvis » Tue Feb 22, 2005 11:11 pm

Flash can be ok, the only problem is it seems like they take a long time to make.

I'd rather have lots of regular comic style episodes than a couple flash episodes...

Maybe the Flash will be funnier though...
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Postby rer » Tue Feb 22, 2005 11:19 pm

Kinda hard to argue with the artist about his chosen medium...

Yaya, I will happily read and/or watch any more 3west comics that you choose to make - they freaking ROCK!
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Postby Ruxur » Wed Feb 23, 2005 12:28 am

myth 1 flash is hard
once you get going, flash is cake.

myth 2 flash takes up alot of space
Simply not true compared to other animation formats. Flash is streamlined and compact

myth 3 alot of people dont have flash
a study by cnet taken last year showed that 92% of all wintel users had some form of flash plugin with thier browser.
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Postby Lahgen » Wed Feb 23, 2005 4:41 am

I didn't say that a lot of people don't have flash bisqueboy, I said that not everybody has flash.
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Rather than seeing "subpar race/class," see "challenge."
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Postby Ruxur » Wed Feb 23, 2005 6:01 am

but what im saying is that the 8% that dont it can go sit on a giant fu*$stick


there are no cons to having 3w back in ANY form
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Postby Llaaldara » Wed Feb 23, 2005 7:38 am

Kifle wrote:
Llaaldara wrote:
Kifle wrote:I'd rather see a flash cartoon. It'd give him a lot more options which would make the comic better.

If you don't have flash...download it and stop being lazy.



Shrug. Order of the Stick is pretty dam funny and it's not flash. Atleast it's colored tho. :\


Which has absolutely nothing to do with what I just said..thanks.


Damn you are dense. You're talking about upgrading his comic using flash. My point is he doesn't have to go all the way to flash. He could just color it. Animation takes a lot longer then simple drawing and coloring.

Do I want to see yaya change all the old 3w's into flash animations or would I rather see him continue on with it pumping out 2 a week.

I'll go for the 2 a week. kthnxdie
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Postby Ruxur » Wed Feb 23, 2005 8:05 am

Llaaldara wrote:
Kifle wrote:
Llaaldara wrote:
Kifle wrote:I'd rather see a flash cartoon. It'd give him a lot more options which would make the comic better.

If you don't have flash...download it and stop being lazy.



Shrug. Order of the Stick is pretty dam funny and it's not flash. Atleast it's colored tho. :\


Which has absolutely nothing to do with what I just said..thanks.


Damn you are dense. You're talking about upgrading his comic using flash. My point is he doesn't have to go all the way to flash. He could just color it. Animation takes a lot longer then simple drawing and coloring.

Do I want to see yaya change all the old 3w's into flash animations or would I rather see him continue on with it pumping out 2 a week.

I'll go for the 2 a week. kthnxdie



ses, i think the artist should read all this, and do whatever the hell he wants anyway
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Postby Kifle » Wed Feb 23, 2005 8:22 am

Llaaldara wrote:
Kifle wrote:
Llaaldara wrote:
Kifle wrote:I'd rather see a flash cartoon. It'd give him a lot more options which would make the comic better.

If you don't have flash...download it and stop being lazy.



Shrug. Order of the Stick is pretty dam funny and it's not flash. Atleast it's colored tho. :\


Which has absolutely nothing to do with what I just said..thanks.


Damn you are dense. You're talking about upgrading his comic using flash. My point is he doesn't have to go all the way to flash. He could just color it. Animation takes a lot longer then simple drawing and coloring.

Do I want to see yaya change all the old 3w's into flash animations or would I rather see him continue on with it pumping out 2 a week.

I'll go for the 2 a week. kthnxdie


Sorry, your statement didn't really apply to what I said, simple as that. Learn to communicate your point using the proper wording next time, yeah?

Again, he wants to use flash...flash is animation, not color...I'm sure if he just wanted to colorize it, he would have mentioned using a paint program...but he didn't, he was leaning towards animation...not color...animation. Animation does not take that long. Flash is easy as hell and has built in scripting...easy...fast...not hard. It is very easy to make a 2 minute flash cartoon in 1hr...not two weeks...1hr...

Don't be condesending when you're an idiot.
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Postby ssar » Wed Feb 23, 2005 9:33 am

Yayaril, your 3w comics are fantastic.
In any form as you wish, it would be great to see them recontinued, hopefully you can get some webspace!
Flash animation would be better, btw.
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Postby teflor the ranger » Wed Feb 23, 2005 9:55 am

Kifle wrote:
Llaaldara wrote:
Kifle wrote:
Llaaldara wrote:
Kifle wrote:I'd rather see a flash cartoon. It'd give him a lot more options which would make the comic better.

If you don't have flash...download it and stop being lazy.



Shrug. Order of the Stick is pretty dam funny and it's not flash. Atleast it's colored tho. :\


Which has absolutely nothing to do with what I just said..thanks.


Damn you are dense. You're talking about upgrading his comic using flash. My point is he doesn't have to go all the way to flash. He could just color it. Animation takes a lot longer then simple drawing and coloring.

Do I want to see yaya change all the old 3w's into flash animations or would I rather see him continue on with it pumping out 2 a week.

I'll go for the 2 a week. kthnxdie


Sorry, your statement didn't really apply to what I said, simple as that. Learn to communicate your point using the proper wording next time, yeah?

Again, he wants to use flash...flash is animation, not color...I'm sure if he just wanted to colorize it, he would have mentioned using a paint program...but he didn't, he was leaning towards animation...not color...animation. Animation does not take that long. Flash is easy as hell and has built in scripting...easy...fast...not hard. It is very easy to make a 2 minute flash cartoon in 1hr...not two weeks...1hr...

Don't be condesending when you're an idiot.


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Postby Kifle » Wed Feb 23, 2005 12:13 pm

I'm only crippled mentaly...I should get 2-1 odds.
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Postby Pril » Wed Feb 23, 2005 4:39 pm

teflor the ranger wrote:
Kifle wrote:
Llaaldara wrote:
Kifle wrote:
Llaaldara wrote:
Kifle wrote:I'd rather see a flash cartoon. It'd give him a lot more options which would make the comic better.

If you don't have flash...download it and stop being lazy.



Shrug. Order of the Stick is pretty dam funny and it's not flash. Atleast it's colored tho. :\


Which has absolutely nothing to do with what I just said..thanks.


Damn you are dense. You're talking about upgrading his comic using flash. My point is he doesn't have to go all the way to flash. He could just color it. Animation takes a lot longer then simple drawing and coloring.

Do I want to see yaya change all the old 3w's into flash animations or would I rather see him continue on with it pumping out 2 a week.

I'll go for the 2 a week. kthnxdie


Sorry, your statement didn't really apply to what I said, simple as that. Learn to communicate your point using the proper wording next time, yeah?

Again, he wants to use flash...flash is animation, not color...I'm sure if he just wanted to colorize it, he would have mentioned using a paint program...but he didn't, he was leaning towards animation...not color...animation. Animation does not take that long. Flash is easy as hell and has built in scripting...easy...fast...not hard. It is very easy to make a 2 minute flash cartoon in 1hr...not two weeks...1hr...

Don't be condesending when you're an idiot.


Attention shoppers, outside we have... cripple fight. Cripple fight outside...


*ponder* anyone else find it amusing when a ranger talks about cripples?

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Postby Yayaril » Wed Feb 23, 2005 5:19 pm

Llaaldara wrote:
Kifle wrote:
Llaaldara wrote:
Kifle wrote:I'd rather see a flash cartoon. It'd give him a lot more options which would make the comic better.

If you don't have flash...download it and stop being lazy.



Shrug. Order of the Stick is pretty dam funny and it's not flash. Atleast it's colored tho. :\


Which has absolutely nothing to do with what I just said..thanks.


Damn you are dense. You're talking about upgrading his comic using flash. My point is he doesn't have to go all the way to flash. He could just color it. Animation takes a lot longer then simple drawing and coloring.

Do I want to see yaya change all the old 3w's into flash animations or would I rather see him continue on with it pumping out 2 a week.

I'll go for the 2 a week. kthnxdie


I don't think I've ever 'pumped' out two comics a week. One a week at best.
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Postby muma » Wed Feb 23, 2005 11:29 pm

i found llaaly and kifle's argument pretty amusing!
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Postby Yayaril » Thu Feb 24, 2005 1:45 am

8)

Yeah, I hope my new 3west skits amuse you guys as much as you amuse me. By the way, the soundtrack is finished and I am mostly done with the art. Now to animate!
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Postby rylan » Thu Feb 24, 2005 2:03 am

Yayaril wrote:By the way, the soundtrack is finished...


70's porn music? Rockin! :P
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Postby Botef » Thu Feb 24, 2005 2:10 am

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Postby Kifle » Thu Feb 24, 2005 2:53 am

rylan wrote:
Yayaril wrote:By the way, the soundtrack is finished...


70's porn music? Rockin! :P


Nah, Yaya listen's to mexican techno!
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Postby Ragorn » Thu Feb 24, 2005 6:34 am

You people can start an argument in ANY thread.
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Postby Teyaha » Thu Feb 24, 2005 10:06 am

i think you may want to be a little more realistic yaya.

although a flash comic is nice, unless you can keep them relatively small you are going to need a dedicated server.


for the last year i have been doing a lot of videos for scrappers on city of heroes. they were quite popular. each about 35-50mb in size and within hours of posting a new one i'd reach 150gb....taht's right 150 gigabytes....of traffic.


i scoured for 9 months for a provider. you have a choice:

large storage space, monthly bandwidth limits
or

small to moderate storage and unlimited bandwidth.


either way, $50 a month at least.


hostway.com is a good choice, since they are one of the few with actual live person support.
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Postby Ruxur » Thu Feb 24, 2005 5:33 pm

teyaha you are comparing apples to oranges.


where as a CoH movie file will be 30-40 mb a flash file of the same length will be less than 1/10 th that. Flash uses vectors, vectors cuts down on the size of the file.


I have already talked to Yayaril and agreed to provide the hosting for 3w in flash format.
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Postby rer » Thu Feb 24, 2005 5:52 pm

Maxler, if you screw up the hosting of this stuff (like you screw up everything else) I WILL kill you bish!!!

That is all.

P.S. Yaya rox.
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Postby Ruxur » Fri Feb 25, 2005 2:44 am

rer, you wanna fight mang?
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Postby Salen » Fri Feb 25, 2005 3:50 am

Why do I have a feeling this thread is going to be the source of a '3 West'?
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Postby rer » Fri Feb 25, 2005 6:49 pm

Ruxur wrote:rer, you wanna fight mang?


Hehe, Bring it on!

Actually, I know I'd get pwned, which is why I can take potshots from the safe anonymity of the BBS :P

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Postby Ashiwi » Fri Feb 25, 2005 6:53 pm

I'll take one 3 West, a chocolate mocha shake and a side of fries, please.
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Postby rer » Fri Feb 25, 2005 7:15 pm

Coming right up Mom!
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Postby Ashiwi » Fri Feb 25, 2005 7:29 pm

Rerrerrer, I said no to the mom fantasy in Indiana, give it up.
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Postby rer » Fri Feb 25, 2005 7:33 pm

But... But... That cute hostess wanted to join in the fantasy! I think it would be fun...
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Postby Ruxur » Sat Feb 26, 2005 3:44 am

Cofen group-says 'wtf, why am i missing a cursed khanjari?'

Alendar group-says 'i r rednek i can only afford the monitor i have mud on and the broken monitor under it'

Nonox tells you 'i think someone casted 'power word gay' on pril'

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Postby Deshana » Sat Feb 26, 2005 10:17 am

all i can say is ...Eep!
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Postby Jurdex » Tue Mar 08, 2005 8:47 am

Can't wait to see the new comics, Yaya. Hope all is well with you. :)

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Postby rer » Tue Mar 08, 2005 4:33 pm

Hurry up Yaya! The suspense is KILLING me :P
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Postby Llaaldara » Tue Mar 08, 2005 4:58 pm

So Yaya, did Kifle and I finally give you enough inspiration for a new 3West comic idea?

I can't wait to see the new black and white flash animations! :)
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Postby Sszantiel » Wed Mar 09, 2005 9:07 am

3 West? Yes Please. =)

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