You're All Going To Jail

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You're All Going To Jail

Postby Shevarash » Tue Jan 10, 2006 5:52 pm

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Postby Dalar » Tue Jan 10, 2006 6:52 pm

"Last Thursday, President Bush signed into law a prohibition on posting annoying Web messages or sending annoying e-mail messages without disclosing your true identity."

Most of us do not hide our true identity. I know I sure don't since half the MUD knows my RL name for some reason.
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Postby Corth » Tue Jan 10, 2006 8:10 pm

Rofl.. so much for specificity in criminal statutes. :)

Any of you annoying people want to be a test case so that I can start building my con law rep? :)
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Postby Vigis » Tue Jan 10, 2006 8:19 pm

Sure Corth,

We'll have Dalar report me, then you can represent me. You'll get a shot to argue in front of the Supreme Court if I get convicted. Oh, and you will be doing it pro-bono :p
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Postby Corth » Tue Jan 10, 2006 8:20 pm

Dude.. its not appropriate to use that word in polite company. *shiver*
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Postby Kifle » Tue Jan 10, 2006 9:42 pm

I thought the internet was outside of this country or any country's jurisdiction. Is it even possible for anybody to truely be prosecuted for this? I also think it would be tough to actually convict if you could. I mean, since annoying is entirely subjective and not even a purely culturally agreed upon thing, how could you ever prove intent except in the most extreme cases?

Either way, the law never stopped me from smoking crack and killing prostitutes -- it sure as hell isn't going to stop me from making shev's life a living hell.
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Postby Corth » Tue Jan 10, 2006 9:47 pm

Actually, from my very limited research it looks like its much ado about nothing. Apparently this new law is meant simply to extend existing legislation concerning telephone harrasment to telephone calls that occur over the internet via VOIP services.

But, regardless... I could imagine several constitutional arguments against criminal application of the law had it been as broad as we initially thought. Criminal statutes can be struck down, for instance, for being "unconstitutionally vague." Obviously, a criminal statute should not be allowed to be so broad that it fails to give clear notice of what type of conduct is criminalized. Additionally, I would imagine that there would be some first ammendment concerns about criminalizing "annoying" speach.

I still say we should have Gormal locked up though. :)

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Postby Kallinar » Tue Jan 10, 2006 9:49 pm

Wait...so If I get a call from a disgruntled customer and they start calling me names and being a total ass, causing me to become altered from my normal happy state of being, I can in turn sue them for such conduct?
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Postby Ruxur » Tue Jan 10, 2006 10:09 pm

no were not talking civil court here. you can have thier ass thrown in jail, even better, but no cash.
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Postby Kallinar » Tue Jan 10, 2006 10:11 pm

Hrmm...disgruntled Kenny Chesney fans all need to be tortured. *glee* Jail is too good for em.
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Postby Gormal » Tue Jan 10, 2006 11:52 pm

You lock it up Gene! Lock it up!

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