Immigration Reform

[Abbayarra]

I am all in favor of immigration reform.
Right now the costs to our society of illegal immigration far outweighs the benefits. I know many people who have come legally into our country and they are useful contributing members. Illegal immigration creates far greater costs to us than benefits in terms of lower food costs.
Higher health care, tremendous strain on education, and much higher crime rates to name a few. I'm an independent in voting nature but illegal immigration is incredibly harmful to American society. Those who are telling you different are getting rich off the back of illegals and us.

[Cirath]

Well, that was a randomly placed soapbox.

[Kifle]

Political rants went out back in '05. Get with the times!

[Dalar]

hey bitch wru

[Kifle]

Been extremely busy with school type stuff. I like to do the slack off for two weeks, work my ass off for one week type thing with school.

[kiryan]

immigrant labor (and im talking about hispanics since thats the majority) isn't universally cheap. its cheap for the employers, expensive for the public at large because these people typically exist outside of the system and therefore don't "pay their fair share" and are poor which typically means needs more "social services". Healthcare being the obvious one (know any farm labor with health insurance? how about dishwashers?).

its an interesting position to be in. kick illegals out of the country because they didn't do it the right way (and make those lazy white boys do an honest days labor) or make them legal so they can participate (cost and benefit rather than just benefit) from the system.

personally, id say kick anyone out who doesn't bother to learn english. this bilingual bullshit is going to cost the public a lot (need for bilingual workers and double production of documents) and going to give hispanic people in the future an unfair competitve advantage over american people (who dont bother to learn a second language or study something dumb like french). This means for now they will do the menial labor, but in the future, you won't be able to get a jobs in the service sector if your not bilingual (service sector predicted to house majority of jobs in the future).

[Corth]

Given the failure of much of the industrialized world to procreate at mere replacement level, it would not surprise me to see competition between countries FOR immigrants in the coming years. That being said, if we are going to bother to have immigration restrictions, I can't quite figure out why rather than enforcing them, we provide expensive services to people who are breaking our law by being here.