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Balance!

Postby Corth » Sat Nov 08, 2003 7:27 am

The primary reason why classes are unbalanced is that casters do far too much damage relative to hitters. Quit making the mobs harder and downgrading eq as a whole. Instead, make the mobs easier, and take away 50% of spell damage (not effects). Melee classes will find a lot more groups.

That is all. :)

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Postby Thilindel » Sat Nov 08, 2003 11:15 pm

Goodbye invoker class
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Postby Stamm » Sun Nov 09, 2003 4:06 am

Hmm. The current issues that people have problems with... the difficult thing is that you can't just fix one aspect. You have to 'fix' it all at once, otherwise things get too easy (which would be a bad thing really) or a whole subset of people get nerfed.
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Postby omrec » Sun Nov 09, 2003 7:48 am

I agree with Corth. Drop caster damage in half across the board. Would make melee more useful, and zones more difficult (although longer...which isn't that great a result, unfortunately).

Or if thats too much, maybe cut it by 1/3.

This wouldn't be "goodbye invoker class", it would just mean you would actually think twice between taking a ranger and taking a voker. As is, if I have to choose, every time I take a voker. The way it _should_ be is that if you are fighting something that has MR, you take a rogue or ranger, if you're fighting lots of mobs at once, you take a voker. There should be a balance, while right now there is none.

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Postby Tanji Smanji » Sun Nov 09, 2003 10:26 am

Stamm wrote:Hmm. The current issues that people have problems with... the difficult thing is that you can't just fix one aspect. You have to 'fix' it all at once, otherwise things get too easy (which would be a bad thing really) or a whole subset of people get nerfed.


Like the eq changes?!
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Postby Tanji Smanji » Sun Nov 09, 2003 10:42 am

Stamm wrote:Hmm. The current issues that people have problems with... the difficult thing is that you can't just fix one aspect. You have to 'fix' it all at once, otherwise things get too easy (which would be a bad thing really) or a whole subset of people get nerfed.


Like the eq changes?!
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Postby Teyaha » Sun Nov 09, 2003 5:26 pm

dont touch caster damage, or only cut in half the l33t players that keep asking for it.

some of us play the game differently than you. dont punish us because you want it changed.

up melee damage slightly, or tune that KNOB (remember they have knobs) so they do more damage than they do now.
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Postby Yayaril » Sun Nov 09, 2003 5:29 pm

8)

Who could forget the KNOBS. I'm reminded on a daily basis that there are KNOBS on Torilmud.
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Postby Dalar » Sun Nov 09, 2003 6:39 pm

Teyaha wrote:dont touch caster damage, or only cut in half the l33t players that keep asking for it.

some of us play the game differently than you. dont punish us because you want it changed.

up melee damage slightly, or tune that KNOB (remember they have knobs) so they do more damage than they do now.


that has to be the most selfish reasoning i've ever heard
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Postby kiryan » Mon Nov 10, 2003 4:57 am

ponder. How about thinking about this.

Why does every caster class have 2 or 3 areas?

Maybe area damage should be restricted to invokers.

Isn't this the "damage" that fugs the balance up? I mean maybe some of the mage classes can keep up with rogue or ranger/dire damage for 20 rounds, but they do run out of useable single target spells pretty quick.

Isn't magic about short bursts of damage followed by long time recovering?

Also the other thing that fugs up melee is the prolific use of mage mobs (shields + stone).

Also, there aren't that many melee friendly zones. I firmly believe half the reason no one wants to go to avernus is that all the casters get their ass shrugged off. Avernus is ideal for a melee heavy group, cept its well in avernus.
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Postby Corth » Mon Nov 10, 2003 5:55 am

Dalar wrote:
Teyaha wrote:dont touch caster damage, or only cut in half the l33t players that keep asking for it.

some of us play the game differently than you. dont punish us because you want it changed.

up melee damage slightly, or tune that KNOB (remember they have knobs) so they do more damage than they do now.


that has to be the most selfish reasoning i've ever heard


Whats selfish about not wanting the mud balanced at the expense of one's area spells? I dont get it.. :)

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Postby omrec » Mon Nov 10, 2003 6:04 am

Ok, so instead of halving area damage, how bout we double melee damage, and then double mob hps? You wouldn't be doing any less damage teyaha!

If you aren't smart enough to figure out that its the same thing, you don't belong in this discussion.

If you're still confused: Reducing mage damage = increasing melee damage. Reducing mage damage has the side effect of making the game harder, increasing melee damage makes the game easier.

<Sarcasm>
Unless you need the mud to be easier for you, because it is too hard?..:P
</Sarcasm>

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P.S. I think the gods _should_ double melee damage, and then double mob hps. Because then people don't feel like they got nerfed, and wouldn't whine as much. Its a PR stunt, you make melee more effective at the same time as you make the game harder. But halving mage damage would do the same thing, quicker and easier, but with more whining from the clueless.
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Postby Teyaha » Mon Nov 10, 2003 7:25 am

i dont have areas.

my chanter never keeps an offensive spell memmed when zoning, and necros usually dont have much to do when i'm in the group. i choose to take care of all the utility myself. only offense i have memmed is constrict.

my necro only has two areas (i think, i could be wrong only level 37 atm) rain of blood and ice storm. have no immediate plans to go lich for rot as i hold out hope for itchy to make necros viable without the need to remort.

so i dont care about area damage really, i care about spell damage period. do you not remember when spell damage meaned two things - jack and shit?

there is an in-between. find it.
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Postby Elseenas » Mon Nov 10, 2003 9:24 am

Thilindel wrote:Goodbye invoker class


Hardly.

A hitter can only hit one target at a time, area damage still would make a 'voker very valuable, as well as utility spells.

At least in comparison to, say, a ranger.
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Postby Ashiwi » Mon Nov 10, 2003 3:01 pm

Yayaril wrote:8)

Who could forget the KNOBS. I'm reminded on a daily basis that there are KNOBS on Torilmud.


If you'd stop reminding us that you're here, we'd stop reminding you that we know you're here.
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Postby belleshel » Mon Nov 10, 2003 4:01 pm

"Teyaha"
some of us play the game differently than you. dont punish us because you want it changed.


Blindfolded? I guess if the rest of us did that we could ignore all the problems too..
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Postby old depok » Mon Nov 10, 2003 4:03 pm

omrec wrote:Ok, so instead of halving area damage, how bout we double melee damage, and then double mob hps? You wouldn't be doing any less damage teyaha!

If you aren't smart enough to figure out that its the same thing, you don't belong in this discussion.

If you're still confused: Reducing mage damage = increasing melee damage. Reducing mage damage has the side effect of making the game harder, increasing melee damage makes the game easier.

<Sarcasm>
Unless you need the mud to be easier for you, because it is too hard?..:P
</Sarcasm>

-Om

P.S. I think the gods _should_ double melee damage, and then double mob hps. Because then people don't feel like they got nerfed, and wouldn't whine as much. Its a PR stunt, you make melee more effective at the same time as you make the game harder. But halving mage damage would do the same thing, quicker and easier, but with more whining from the clueless.


Problem is that you would have to double the tank hps as well. This is the circular issue with just upping melee damage. If you increase melee damage and hit you then make the tanks get owned by melee mobs. Keep in mind that most casting mobs are also warrior classed.

That is why it is easier just to reduce the damage area effect spells give.

Or to increase the tank skills and then make the melee classes special damage effects (archery, circle, et al) effected less or immune to those skills.
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Postby Dalar » Mon Nov 10, 2003 7:50 pm

Corth wrote:
Dalar wrote:
Teyaha wrote:dont touch caster damage, or only cut in half the l33t players that keep asking for it.

some of us play the game differently than you. dont punish us because you want it changed.

up melee damage slightly, or tune that KNOB (remember they have knobs) so they do more damage than they do now.


that has to be the most selfish reasoning i've ever heard


Whats selfish about not wanting the mud balanced at the expense of one's area spells? I dont get it.. :)

Corth


there is no blind gene? :P
i thought he was saying he doesn't want any caster damage touched because that's the only way he knows how to play or something.
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Postby Corth » Mon Nov 10, 2003 8:28 pm

Dalar wrote:
Corth wrote:
Dalar wrote:
Teyaha wrote:dont touch caster damage, or only cut in half the l33t players that keep asking for it.

some of us play the game differently than you. dont punish us because you want it changed.

up melee damage slightly, or tune that KNOB (remember they have knobs) so they do more damage than they do now.


that has to be the most selfish reasoning i've ever heard


Whats selfish about not wanting the mud balanced at the expense of one's area spells? I dont get it.. :)

Corth


there is no blind gene? :P
i thought he was saying he doesn't want any caster damage touched because that's the only way he knows how to play or something.


I'm just quoting you now for shits and giggles.
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Postby Dlur » Mon Nov 10, 2003 10:19 pm

Corth wrote:
Dalar wrote:
Corth wrote:
Dalar wrote:
Teyaha wrote:dont touch caster damage, or only cut in half the l33t players that keep asking for it.

some of us play the game differently than you. dont punish us because you want it changed.

up melee damage slightly, or tune that KNOB (remember they have knobs) so they do more damage than they do now.


that has to be the most selfish reasoning i've ever heard


Whats selfish about not wanting the mud balanced at the expense of one's area spells? I dont get it.. :)

Corth


there is no blind gene? :P
i thought he was saying he doesn't want any caster damage touched because that's the only way he knows how to play or something.


I'm just quoting you now for shits and giggles.

Interesting.
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Postby thanuk » Mon Nov 10, 2003 10:28 pm

Dlur wrote:
Corth wrote:
Dalar wrote:
Corth wrote:
Dalar wrote:
Teyaha wrote:dont touch caster damage, or only cut in half the l33t players that keep asking for it.

some of us play the game differently than you. dont punish us because you want it changed.

up melee damage slightly, or tune that KNOB (remember they have knobs) so they do more damage than they do now.


that has to be the most selfish reasoning i've ever heard


Whats selfish about not wanting the mud balanced at the expense of one's area spells? I dont get it.. :)

Corth


there is no blind gene? :P
i thought he was saying he doesn't want any caster damage touched because that's the only way he knows how to play or something.


I'm just quoting you now for shits and giggles.

Interesting.


Not really.
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Postby Dalar » Tue Nov 11, 2003 12:45 am

thanuk wrote:
Dlur wrote:
Corth wrote:
Dalar wrote:
Corth wrote:
Dalar wrote:
Teyaha wrote:dont touch caster damage, or only cut in half the l33t players that keep asking for it.

some of us play the game differently than you. dont punish us because you want it changed.

up melee damage slightly, or tune that KNOB (remember they have knobs) so they do more damage than they do now.


that has to be the most selfish reasoning i've ever heard


Whats selfish about not wanting the mud balanced at the expense of one's area spells? I dont get it.. :)

Corth


there is no blind gene? :P
i thought he was saying he doesn't want any caster damage touched because that's the only way he knows how to play or something.


I'm just quoting you now for shits and giggles.

Interesting.


Not really.

This is just like my assoc behavior. biters
It will be fixed in Toril 2.0.

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Postby Dlur » Tue Nov 11, 2003 2:29 am

Dalar wrote:
thanuk wrote:
Dlur wrote:
Corth wrote:
Dalar wrote:
Corth wrote:
Dalar wrote:
Teyaha wrote:dont touch caster damage, or only cut in half the l33t players that keep asking for it.

some of us play the game differently than you. dont punish us because you want it changed.

up melee damage slightly, or tune that KNOB (remember they have knobs) so they do more damage than they do now.


that has to be the most selfish reasoning i've ever heard


Whats selfish about not wanting the mud balanced at the expense of one's area spells? I dont get it.. :)

Corth


there is no blind gene? :P
i thought he was saying he doesn't want any caster damage touched because that's the only way he knows how to play or something.


I'm just quoting you now for shits and giggles.

Interesting.


Not really.

This is just like my assoc behavior. biters


I don't really think it has anything to do with the assoc, it's just that we're all assholes mostly.
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Postby thanuk » Tue Nov 11, 2003 2:57 am

Dlur wrote:
Dalar wrote:
thanuk wrote:
Dlur wrote:
Corth wrote:
Dalar wrote:
Corth wrote:
Dalar wrote:
Teyaha wrote:dont touch caster damage, or only cut in half the l33t players that keep asking for it.

some of us play the game differently than you. dont punish us because you want it changed.

up melee damage slightly, or tune that KNOB (remember they have knobs) so they do more damage than they do now.


that has to be the most selfish reasoning i've ever heard


Whats selfish about not wanting the mud balanced at the expense of one's area spells? I dont get it.. :)

Corth


there is no blind gene? :P
i thought he was saying he doesn't want any caster damage touched because that's the only way he knows how to play or something.


I'm just quoting you now for shits and giggles.

Interesting.


Not really.

This is just like my assoc behavior. biters


I don't really think it has anything to do with the assoc, it's just that we're all assholes mostly.


And assholes mostly come out at night. Mostly.
Mysrel tells you 'have my babies'

You tell Mysrel 'u want me to be ur baby daddy?'

Mysrel tells you 'daddy? No, I think you have the terminology wrong'

You tell Mysrel 'comeon now we both know i would be the top'

Mysrel tells you 'can be where ever you want to be, yer still getting ****** like a drunken cheerleader'
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Postby ssar » Tue Nov 11, 2003 3:28 am

Yayaril wrote:8)

Who could forget the KNOBS. I'm reminded on a daily basis that there are KNOBS on Torilmud.


So true :p
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Postby omrec » Wed Nov 12, 2003 6:23 am

old depok wrote:Problem is that you would have to double the tank hps as well. This is the circular issue with just upping melee damage. If you increase melee damage and hit you then make the tanks get owned by melee mobs. Keep in mind that most casting mobs are also warrior classed.

That is why it is easier just to reduce the damage area effect spells give.

Or to increase the tank skills and then make the melee classes special damage effects (archery, circle, et al) effected less or immune to those skills.


Actually, mob damage and player damage really aren't all that related. If you doulbled played +damage, and doubled weapon dice, that doesn't effect mobs at all. But yes, if you tweaked with how much damage all melee attacks did, yes, it would hurt tanks pretty fast..:) Yet another reason to just downgrade spell damage.

As for teyaha not memming any offense...as a chanter...Damn, what can I say? Not to be mean..but...prism is one of the best area blinding spells, and can para mobs, blacklight slows mobs and makes your tanks last longer...what the hell are you doing not memming any offense? At least you mem constricts, hopefully to help stop stunnable casters. And yes, I do usually keep 5 people scaled/blurred/globed/hasted AND still get offense in, but thats probably just cause I'm a badass. Sometimes, if I'm feeling particularily un-lazy, I'll rolling scale the whole group too. But thats harder with this damn human int.

As for the 'I don't have areas', both blacklight and prism are area. But blacklight doesn't do much damage anyway, so I guess that doesn't count.
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Postby old depok » Wed Nov 12, 2003 1:24 pm

One trip to Seelie will convince you of how bad ass prism is. Shiver.
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Postby Iyachtu » Wed Nov 12, 2003 11:34 pm

Actually, mob damage and player damage really aren't all that related. If you doulbled played +damage, and doubled weapon dice, that doesn't effect mobs at all.


For those occasions where a mob is actually wielding the weapon, raising the dice would indeed cause a sizable increase in damage.
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Postby omrec » Thu Nov 13, 2003 12:14 am

Iyachtu wrote:For those occasions where a mob is actually wielding the weapon, raising the dice would indeed cause a sizable increase in damage.


Right.

But if I remember from my area-creation messing-around days, mobs just get a ton of bonus damage that is just plain specified in the .mob file, and isn't based on eq. Again, not sure how it is implemented in the code (as in, multiplies weapon damage vs. just adds to it). But regardless, it _could_ be coded/worked so that an increase in PC melee damage doesn't translate directly to an similar increase in mob damage.

Hell, a mob with a weapon _should_ be more of a threat than a mob without one. As is, there isn't a whole lot of difference there, in terms of damage (procs/defense being a different story).
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Postby Glorishan » Thu Nov 13, 2003 12:55 pm

thanuk wrote:
Dlur wrote:
Dalar wrote:
thanuk wrote:
Dlur wrote:
Corth wrote:
Dalar wrote:
Corth wrote:
Dalar wrote:
Teyaha wrote:dont touch caster damage, or only cut in half the l33t players that keep asking for it.

some of us play the game differently than you. dont punish us because you want it changed.

up melee damage slightly, or tune that KNOB (remember they have knobs) so they do more damage than they do now.


that has to be the most selfish reasoning i've ever heard


Whats selfish about not wanting the mud balanced at the expense of one's area spells? I dont get it.. :)

Corth


there is no blind gene? :P
i thought he was saying he doesn't want any caster damage touched because that's the only way he knows how to play or something.


I'm just quoting you now for shits and giggles.

Interesting.


Not really.

This is just like my assoc behavior. biters


I don't really think it has anything to do with the assoc, it's just that we're all assholes mostly.


And assholes mostly come out at night. Mostly.


Nobody has done this in a little while.

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Postby Dlur » Thu Nov 13, 2003 1:07 pm

Glorishan wrote:
thanuk wrote:
Dlur wrote:
Dalar wrote:
thanuk wrote:
Dlur wrote:
Corth wrote:
Dalar wrote:
Corth wrote:
Dalar wrote:
Teyaha wrote:dont touch caster damage, or only cut in half the l33t players that keep asking for it.

some of us play the game differently than you. dont punish us because you want it changed.

up melee damage slightly, or tune that KNOB (remember they have knobs) so they do more damage than they do now.


that has to be the most selfish reasoning i've ever heard


Whats selfish about not wanting the mud balanced at the expense of one's area spells? I dont get it.. :)

Corth


there is no blind gene? :P
i thought he was saying he doesn't want any caster damage touched because that's the only way he knows how to play or something.


I'm just quoting you now for shits and giggles.

Interesting.


Not really.

This is just like my assoc behavior. biters


I don't really think it has anything to do with the assoc, it's just that we're all assholes mostly.


And assholes mostly come out at night. Mostly.


Nobody has done this in a little while.

Glorishan


No, but we should do it more often I think.
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Postby thanuk » Thu Nov 13, 2003 3:18 pm

Dlur wrote:
Glorishan wrote:
thanuk wrote:
Dlur wrote:
Dalar wrote:
thanuk wrote:
Dlur wrote:
Corth wrote:
Dalar wrote:
Corth wrote:
Dalar wrote:
Teyaha wrote:dont touch caster damage, or only cut in half the l33t players that keep asking for it.

some of us play the game differently than you. dont punish us because you want it changed.

up melee damage slightly, or tune that KNOB (remember they have knobs) so they do more damage than they do now.


that has to be the most selfish reasoning i've ever heard


Whats selfish about not wanting the mud balanced at the expense of one's area spells? I dont get it.. :)

Corth


there is no blind gene? :P
i thought he was saying he doesn't want any caster damage touched because that's the only way he knows how to play or something.


I'm just quoting you now for shits and giggles.

Interesting.


Not really.

This is just like my assoc behavior. biters


I don't really think it has anything to do with the assoc, it's just that we're all assholes mostly.


And assholes mostly come out at night. Mostly.


Nobody has done this in a little while.

Glorishan


No, but we should do it more often I think.


How many more do you think we can do before it just crashes the bbs?
Mysrel tells you 'have my babies'

You tell Mysrel 'u want me to be ur baby daddy?'

Mysrel tells you 'daddy? No, I think you have the terminology wrong'

You tell Mysrel 'comeon now we both know i would be the top'

Mysrel tells you 'can be where ever you want to be, yer still getting ****** like a drunken cheerleader'
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Postby Stamm » Thu Nov 13, 2003 4:28 pm

thanuk wrote:
Dlur wrote:
Glorishan wrote:
thanuk wrote:
Dlur wrote:
Dalar wrote:
thanuk wrote:
Dlur wrote:
Corth wrote:
Dalar wrote:
Corth wrote:
Dalar wrote:
Teyaha wrote:dont touch caster damage, or only cut in half the l33t players that keep asking for it.

some of us play the game differently than you. dont punish us because you want it changed.

up melee damage slightly, or tune that KNOB (remember they have knobs) so they do more damage than they do now.


that has to be the most selfish reasoning i've ever heard


Whats selfish about not wanting the mud balanced at the expense of one's area spells? I dont get it.. :)

Corth


there is no blind gene? :P
i thought he was saying he doesn't want any caster damage touched because that's the only way he knows how to play or something.


I'm just quoting you now for shits and giggles.

Interesting.


Not really.

This is just like my assoc behavior. biters


I don't really think it has anything to do with the assoc, it's just that we're all assholes mostly.


And assholes mostly come out at night. Mostly.


Nobody has done this in a little while.

Glorishan


No, but we should do it more often I think.


How many more do you think we can do before it just crashes the bbs?


Pretty pictures.
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Postby Sesexe » Thu Nov 13, 2003 4:47 pm

Stamm wrote:
thanuk wrote:
Dlur wrote:
Glorishan wrote:
thanuk wrote:
Dlur wrote:
Dalar wrote:
thanuk wrote:
Dlur wrote:
Corth wrote:
Dalar wrote:
Corth wrote:
Dalar wrote:
Teyaha wrote:dont touch caster damage, or only cut in half the l33t players that keep asking for it.

some of us play the game differently than you. dont punish us because you want it changed.

up melee damage slightly, or tune that KNOB (remember they have knobs) so they do more damage than they do now.


that has to be the most selfish reasoning i've ever heard


Whats selfish about not wanting the mud balanced at the expense of one's area spells? I dont get it.. :)

Corth


there is no blind gene? :P
i thought he was saying he doesn't want any caster damage touched because that's the only way he knows how to play or something.


I'm just quoting you now for shits and giggles.

Interesting.


Not really.

This is just like my assoc behavior. biters


I don't really think it has anything to do with the assoc, it's just that we're all assholes mostly.


And assholes mostly come out at night. Mostly.


Nobody has done this in a little while.

Glorishan


No, but we should do it more often I think.


How many more do you think we can do before it just crashes the bbs?


Pretty pictures.


Maybe this thread should be renamed to "The Most Requoted Responses"
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Postby thanuk » Thu Nov 13, 2003 4:49 pm

Sesexe wrote:
Stamm wrote:
thanuk wrote:
Dlur wrote:
Glorishan wrote:
thanuk wrote:
Dlur wrote:
Dalar wrote:
thanuk wrote:
Dlur wrote:
Corth wrote:
Dalar wrote:
Corth wrote:
Dalar wrote:
Teyaha wrote:dont touch caster damage, or only cut in half the l33t players that keep asking for it.

some of us play the game differently than you. dont punish us because you want it changed.

up melee damage slightly, or tune that KNOB (remember they have knobs) so they do more damage than they do now.


that has to be the most selfish reasoning i've ever heard


Whats selfish about not wanting the mud balanced at the expense of one's area spells? I dont get it.. :)

Corth


there is no blind gene? :P
i thought he was saying he doesn't want any caster damage touched because that's the only way he knows how to play or something.


I'm just quoting you now for shits and giggles.

Interesting.


Not really.

This is just like my assoc behavior. biters


I don't really think it has anything to do with the assoc, it's just that we're all assholes mostly.


And assholes mostly come out at night. Mostly.


Nobody has done this in a little while.

Glorishan


No, but we should do it more often I think.


How many more do you think we can do before it just crashes the bbs?


Pretty pictures.


Maybe this thread should be renamed to "The Most Requoted Responses"


I don't think so, Tim.
Mysrel tells you 'have my babies'

You tell Mysrel 'u want me to be ur baby daddy?'

Mysrel tells you 'daddy? No, I think you have the terminology wrong'

You tell Mysrel 'comeon now we both know i would be the top'

Mysrel tells you 'can be where ever you want to be, yer still getting ****** like a drunken cheerleader'
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balance and why I started fireshield/coldshield

Postby Abbayarra » Thu Nov 13, 2003 5:07 pm

I've played an illusionist and a ranger.
At first the ranger was more fun because of his ability to do many things.
But at higher levels it became obvious that his inability to do anything really well has really hurt him.
I also have played an illusionist. At lower levels he was much weaker than the ranger. Now I've got him up some levels he is much stronger.
Why is the illusionist so much stronger than the ranger?
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Re: balance and why I started fireshield/coldshield

Postby belleshel » Thu Nov 13, 2003 5:43 pm

Abbayarra wrote:Why is the illusionist so much stronger than the ranger?


All casters are much stronger than warriors. My druid was more powerful at level 36 then my ranger at 50. That's the way it is.
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Postby Kifle » Thu Nov 13, 2003 9:31 pm

thanuk wrote:
Sesexe wrote:
Stamm wrote:
thanuk wrote:
Dlur wrote:
Glorishan wrote:
thanuk wrote:
Dlur wrote:
Dalar wrote:
thanuk wrote:
Dlur wrote:
Corth wrote:
Dalar wrote:
Corth wrote:
Dalar wrote:
Teyaha wrote:dont touch caster damage, or only cut in half the l33t players that keep asking for it.

some of us play the game differently than you. dont punish us because you want it changed.

up melee damage slightly, or tune that KNOB (remember they have knobs) so they do more damage than they do now.


that has to be the most selfish reasoning i've ever heard


Whats selfish about not wanting the mud balanced at the expense of one's area spells? I dont get it.. :)

Corth


there is no blind gene? :P
i thought he was saying he doesn't want any caster damage touched because that's the only way he knows how to play or something.


I'm just quoting you now for shits and giggles.

Interesting.


Not really.

This is just like my assoc behavior. biters


I don't really think it has anything to do with the assoc, it's just that we're all assholes mostly.


And assholes mostly come out at night. Mostly.


Nobody has done this in a little while.

Glorishan


No, but we should do it more often I think.


How many more do you think we can do before it just crashes the bbs?


Pretty pictures.


Maybe this thread should be renamed to "The Most Requoted Responses"


I don't think so, Tim.


Not to jump on the bandwagon or anything, but I just want to see teyaha's post disappear in the middle of the quote.
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Postby thanuk » Thu Nov 13, 2003 9:41 pm

Kifle wrote:
thanuk wrote:
Sesexe wrote:
Stamm wrote:
thanuk wrote:
Dlur wrote:
Glorishan wrote:
thanuk wrote:
Dlur wrote:
Dalar wrote:
thanuk wrote:
Dlur wrote:
Corth wrote:
Dalar wrote:
Corth wrote:
Dalar wrote:
Teyaha wrote:dont touch caster damage, or only cut in half the l33t players that keep asking for it.

some of us play the game differently than you. dont punish us because you want it changed.

up melee damage slightly, or tune that KNOB (remember they have knobs) so they do more damage than they do now.


that has to be the most selfish reasoning i've ever heard


Whats selfish about not wanting the mud balanced at the expense of one's area spells? I dont get it.. :)

Corth


there is no blind gene? :P
i thought he was saying he doesn't want any caster damage touched because that's the only way he knows how to play or something.


I'm just quoting you now for shits and giggles.

Interesting.


Not really.

This is just like my assoc behavior. biters


I don't really think it has anything to do with the assoc, it's just that we're all assholes mostly.


And assholes mostly come out at night. Mostly.


Nobody has done this in a little while.

Glorishan


No, but we should do it more often I think.


How many more do you think we can do before it just crashes the bbs?


Pretty pictures.


Maybe this thread should be renamed to "The Most Requoted Responses"


I don't think so, Tim.


Not to jump on the bandwagon or anything, but I just want to see teyaha's post disappear in the middle of the quote.

So you're saying your off the wagon again?
Mysrel tells you 'have my babies'

You tell Mysrel 'u want me to be ur baby daddy?'

Mysrel tells you 'daddy? No, I think you have the terminology wrong'

You tell Mysrel 'comeon now we both know i would be the top'

Mysrel tells you 'can be where ever you want to be, yer still getting ****** like a drunken cheerleader'
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Postby Arilin Nydelahar » Thu Nov 13, 2003 10:29 pm

thanuk wrote:
Kifle wrote:
thanuk wrote:
Sesexe wrote:
Stamm wrote:
thanuk wrote:
Dlur wrote:
Glorishan wrote:
thanuk wrote:
Dlur wrote:
Dalar wrote:
thanuk wrote:
Dlur wrote:
Corth wrote:
Dalar wrote:
Corth wrote:
Dalar wrote:
Teyaha wrote:dont touch caster damage, or only cut in half the l33t players that keep asking for it.

some of us play the game differently than you. dont punish us because you want it changed.

up melee damage slightly, or tune that KNOB (remember they have knobs) so they do more damage than they do now.


that has to be the most selfish reasoning i've ever heard


Whats selfish about not wanting the mud balanced at the expense of one's area spells? I dont get it.. :)

Corth


there is no blind gene? :P
i thought he was saying he doesn't want any caster damage touched because that's the only way he knows how to play or something.


I'm just quoting you now for shits and giggles.

Interesting.


Not really.

This is just like my assoc behavior. biters


I don't really think it has anything to do with the assoc, it's just that we're all assholes mostly.


And assholes mostly come out at night. Mostly.


Nobody has done this in a little while.

Glorishan


No, but we should do it more often I think.


How many more do you think we can do before it just crashes the bbs?


Pretty pictures.


Maybe this thread should be renamed to "The Most Requoted Responses"


I don't think so, Tim.


Not to jump on the bandwagon or anything, but I just want to see teyaha's post disappear in the middle of the quote.

So you're saying your off the wagon again?


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Postby Salen » Thu Nov 13, 2003 10:40 pm

Arilin Nydelahar wrote:
thanuk wrote:
Kifle wrote:
thanuk wrote:
Sesexe wrote:
Stamm wrote:
thanuk wrote:
Dlur wrote:
Glorishan wrote:
thanuk wrote:
Dlur wrote:
Dalar wrote:
thanuk wrote:
Dlur wrote:
Corth wrote:
Dalar wrote:
Corth wrote:
Dalar wrote:
Teyaha wrote:dont touch caster damage, or only cut in half the l33t players that keep asking for it.

some of us play the game differently than you. dont punish us because you want it changed.

up melee damage slightly, or tune that KNOB (remember they have knobs) so they do more damage than they do now.


that has to be the most selfish reasoning i've ever heard


Whats selfish about not wanting the mud balanced at the expense of one's area spells? I dont get it.. :)

Corth


there is no blind gene? :P
i thought he was saying he doesn't want any caster damage touched because that's the only way he knows how to play or something.


I'm just quoting you now for shits and giggles.

Interesting.


Not really.

This is just like my assoc behavior. biters


I don't really think it has anything to do with the assoc, it's just that we're all assholes mostly.


And assholes mostly come out at night. Mostly.


Nobody has done this in a little while.

Glorishan


No, but we should do it more often I think.


How many more do you think we can do before it just crashes the bbs?


Pretty pictures.


Maybe this thread should be renamed to "The Most Requoted Responses"


I don't think so, Tim.


Not to jump on the bandwagon or anything, but I just want to see teyaha's post disappear in the middle of the quote.

So you're saying your off the wagon again?


Hi.

OMG I quoted Arilin quoting thanuk quoting Kifle quoting thanuk quoting Sesexe quoting Stamm quoting thanuk quoting Dlur quoting Glorishan quoting thanuk quoting Dlur (again) quoting Dalar quoting thanuk quoting Dlur (yet again) quoting Corth quoting Dalar quoting Corth quoting Dalar quoting Teyaha.
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Postby Salen » Thu Nov 13, 2003 10:42 pm

Salen wrote:
Arilin Nydelahar wrote:
thanuk wrote:
Kifle wrote:
thanuk wrote:
Sesexe wrote:
Stamm wrote:
thanuk wrote:
Dlur wrote:
Glorishan wrote:
thanuk wrote:
Dlur wrote:
Dalar wrote:
thanuk wrote:
Dlur wrote:
Corth wrote:
Dalar wrote:
Corth wrote:
Dalar wrote:
Teyaha wrote:dont touch caster damage, or only cut in half the l33t players that keep asking for it.

some of us play the game differently than you. dont punish us because you want it changed.

up melee damage slightly, or tune that KNOB (remember they have knobs) so they do more damage than they do now.


that has to be the most selfish reasoning i've ever heard


Whats selfish about not wanting the mud balanced at the expense of one's area spells? I dont get it.. :)

Corth


there is no blind gene? :P
i thought he was saying he doesn't want any caster damage touched because that's the only way he knows how to play or something.


I'm just quoting you now for shits and giggles.

Interesting.


Not really.

This is just like my assoc behavior. biters


I don't really think it has anything to do with the assoc, it's just that we're all assholes mostly.


And assholes mostly come out at night. Mostly.


Nobody has done this in a little while.

Glorishan


No, but we should do it more often I think.


How many more do you think we can do before it just crashes the bbs?


Pretty pictures.


Maybe this thread should be renamed to "The Most Requoted Responses"


I don't think so, Tim.


Not to jump on the bandwagon or anything, but I just want to see teyaha's post disappear in the middle of the quote.

So you're saying your off the wagon again?


Hi.

OMG I quoted Arilin quoting thanuk quoting Kifle quoting thanuk quoting Sesexe quoting Stamm quoting thanuk quoting Dlur quoting Glorishan quoting thanuk quoting Dlur (again) quoting Dalar quoting thanuk quoting Dlur (yet again) quoting Corth quoting Dalar quoting Corth quoting Dalar quoting Teyaha.


And then, I quoted myself quoting Arilin quoting thanuk quoting Kifle quoting thanuk quoting Sesexe quoting Stamm quoting thanuk quoting Dlur quoting Glorishan quoting thanuk quoting Dlur (again) quoting Dalar quoting thanuk quoting Dlur (yet again) quoting Corth quoting Dalar quoting Corth quoting Dalar quoting Teyaha.

I am teh pwn.
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Postby Kossuth » Thu Nov 13, 2003 10:46 pm

Salen wrote:
Salen wrote:
Arilin Nydelahar wrote:
thanuk wrote:
Kifle wrote:
thanuk wrote:
Sesexe wrote:
Stamm wrote:
thanuk wrote:
Dlur wrote:
Glorishan wrote:
thanuk wrote:
Dlur wrote:
Dalar wrote:
thanuk wrote:
Dlur wrote:
Corth wrote:
Dalar wrote:
Corth wrote:
Dalar wrote:
Teyaha wrote:dont touch caster damage, or only cut in half the l33t players that keep asking for it.

some of us play the game differently than you. dont punish us because you want it changed.

up melee damage slightly, or tune that KNOB (remember they have knobs) so they do more damage than they do now.


that has to be the most selfish reasoning i've ever heard


Whats selfish about not wanting the mud balanced at the expense of one's area spells? I dont get it.. :)

Corth


there is no blind gene? :P
i thought he was saying he doesn't want any caster damage touched because that's the only way he knows how to play or something.


I'm just quoting you now for shits and giggles.

Interesting.


Not really.

This is just like my assoc behavior. biters


I don't really think it has anything to do with the assoc, it's just that we're all assholes mostly.


And assholes mostly come out at night. Mostly.


Nobody has done this in a little while.

Glorishan


No, but we should do it more often I think.


How many more do you think we can do before it just crashes the bbs?


Pretty pictures.


Maybe this thread should be renamed to "The Most Requoted Responses"


I don't think so, Tim.


Not to jump on the bandwagon or anything, but I just want to see teyaha's post disappear in the middle of the quote.

So you're saying your off the wagon again?


Hi.

OMG I quoted Arilin quoting thanuk quoting Kifle quoting thanuk quoting Sesexe quoting Stamm quoting thanuk quoting Dlur quoting Glorishan quoting thanuk quoting Dlur (again) quoting Dalar quoting thanuk quoting Dlur (yet again) quoting Corth quoting Dalar quoting Corth quoting Dalar quoting Teyaha.


And then, I quoted myself quoting Arilin quoting thanuk quoting Kifle quoting thanuk quoting Sesexe quoting Stamm quoting thanuk quoting Dlur quoting Glorishan quoting thanuk quoting Dlur (again) quoting Dalar quoting thanuk quoting Dlur (yet again) quoting Corth quoting Dalar quoting Corth quoting Dalar quoting Teyaha.

I am teh pwn.


You were only the pwn til I quoted you quoting Arilin quoting thanuk quoting Kifle quoting thanuk quoting Sesexe quoting Stamm quoting thanuk quoting Dlur quoting Glorishan quoting thanuk quoting Dlur (again) quoting Dalar quoting thanuk quoting Dlur (yet again) quoting Corth quoting Dalar quoting Corth quoting Dalar quoting Teyaha.

This is way more interesting than the most responses thread ever was, btw.
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Postby othelil » Thu Nov 13, 2003 10:54 pm

Kossuth wrote:
Salen wrote:
Salen wrote:
Arilin Nydelahar wrote:
thanuk wrote:
Kifle wrote:
thanuk wrote:
Sesexe wrote:
Stamm wrote:
thanuk wrote:
Dlur wrote:
Glorishan wrote:
thanuk wrote:
Dlur wrote:
Dalar wrote:
thanuk wrote:
Dlur wrote:
Corth wrote:
Dalar wrote:
Corth wrote:
Dalar wrote:
Teyaha wrote:dont touch caster damage, or only cut in half the l33t players that keep asking for it.

some of us play the game differently than you. dont punish us because you want it changed.

up melee damage slightly, or tune that KNOB (remember they have knobs) so they do more damage than they do now.


that has to be the most selfish reasoning i've ever heard


Whats selfish about not wanting the mud balanced at the expense of one's area spells? I dont get it.. :)

Corth


there is no blind gene? :P
i thought he was saying he doesn't want any caster damage touched because that's the only way he knows how to play or something.


I'm just quoting you now for shits and giggles.

Interesting.


Not really.

This is just like my assoc behavior. biters


I don't really think it has anything to do with the assoc, it's just that we're all assholes mostly.


And assholes mostly come out at night. Mostly.


Nobody has done this in a little while.

Glorishan


No, but we should do it more often I think.


How many more do you think we can do before it just crashes the bbs?


Pretty pictures.


Maybe this thread should be renamed to "The Most Requoted Responses"


I don't think so, Tim.


Not to jump on the bandwagon or anything, but I just want to see teyaha's post disappear in the middle of the quote.

So you're saying your off the wagon again?


Hi.

OMG I quoted Arilin quoting thanuk quoting Kifle quoting thanuk quoting Sesexe quoting Stamm quoting thanuk quoting Dlur quoting Glorishan quoting thanuk quoting Dlur (again) quoting Dalar quoting thanuk quoting Dlur (yet again) quoting Corth quoting Dalar quoting Corth quoting Dalar quoting Teyaha.


And then, I quoted myself quoting Arilin quoting thanuk quoting Kifle quoting thanuk quoting Sesexe quoting Stamm quoting thanuk quoting Dlur quoting Glorishan quoting thanuk quoting Dlur (again) quoting Dalar quoting thanuk quoting Dlur (yet again) quoting Corth quoting Dalar quoting Corth quoting Dalar quoting Teyaha.

I am teh pwn.


You were only the pwn til I quoted you quoting Arilin quoting thanuk quoting Kifle quoting thanuk quoting Sesexe quoting Stamm quoting thanuk quoting Dlur quoting Glorishan quoting thanuk quoting Dlur (again) quoting Dalar quoting thanuk quoting Dlur (yet again) quoting Corth quoting Dalar quoting Corth quoting Dalar quoting Teyaha.

This is way more interesting than the most responses thread ever was, btw.


I heartily agree. Much more interesting.
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Postby Orku » Thu Nov 13, 2003 11:11 pm

othelil wrote:
Kossuth wrote:
Salen wrote:
Salen wrote:
Arilin Nydelahar wrote:
thanuk wrote:
Kifle wrote:
thanuk wrote:
Sesexe wrote:
Stamm wrote:
thanuk wrote:
Dlur wrote:
Glorishan wrote:
thanuk wrote:
Dlur wrote:
Dalar wrote:
thanuk wrote:
Dlur wrote:
Corth wrote:
Dalar wrote:
Corth wrote:
Dalar wrote:
Teyaha wrote:dont touch caster damage, or only cut in half the l33t players that keep asking for it.

some of us play the game differently than you. dont punish us because you want it changed.

up melee damage slightly, or tune that KNOB (remember they have knobs) so they do more damage than they do now.


that has to be the most selfish reasoning i've ever heard


Whats selfish about not wanting the mud balanced at the expense of one's area spells? I dont get it.. :)

Corth


there is no blind gene? :P
i thought he was saying he doesn't want any caster damage touched because that's the only way he knows how to play or something.


I'm just quoting you now for shits and giggles.

Interesting.


Not really.

This is just like my assoc behavior. biters


I don't really think it has anything to do with the assoc, it's just that we're all assholes mostly.


And assholes mostly come out at night. Mostly.


Nobody has done this in a little while.

Glorishan


No, but we should do it more often I think.


How many more do you think we can do before it just crashes the bbs?


Pretty pictures.


Maybe this thread should be renamed to "The Most Requoted Responses"


I don't think so, Tim.


Not to jump on the bandwagon or anything, but I just want to see teyaha's post disappear in the middle of the quote.

So you're saying your off the wagon again?


Hi.

OMG I quoted Arilin quoting thanuk quoting Kifle quoting thanuk quoting Sesexe quoting Stamm quoting thanuk quoting Dlur quoting Glorishan quoting thanuk quoting Dlur (again) quoting Dalar quoting thanuk quoting Dlur (yet again) quoting Corth quoting Dalar quoting Corth quoting Dalar quoting Teyaha.


And then, I quoted myself quoting Arilin quoting thanuk quoting Kifle quoting thanuk quoting Sesexe quoting Stamm quoting thanuk quoting Dlur quoting Glorishan quoting thanuk quoting Dlur (again) quoting Dalar quoting thanuk quoting Dlur (yet again) quoting Corth quoting Dalar quoting Corth quoting Dalar quoting Teyaha.

I am teh pwn.


You were only the pwn til I quoted you quoting Arilin quoting thanuk quoting Kifle quoting thanuk quoting Sesexe quoting Stamm quoting thanuk quoting Dlur quoting Glorishan quoting thanuk quoting Dlur (again) quoting Dalar quoting thanuk quoting Dlur (yet again) quoting Corth quoting Dalar quoting Corth quoting Dalar quoting Teyaha.

This is way more interesting than the most responses thread ever was, btw.


I heartily agree. Much more interesting.


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Postby Gyrx » Thu Nov 13, 2003 11:25 pm

Orku wrote:
othelil wrote:
Kossuth wrote:
Salen wrote:
Salen wrote:
Arilin Nydelahar wrote:
thanuk wrote:
Kifle wrote:
thanuk wrote:
Sesexe wrote:
Stamm wrote:
thanuk wrote:
Dlur wrote:
Glorishan wrote:
thanuk wrote:
Dlur wrote:
Dalar wrote:
thanuk wrote:
Dlur wrote:
Corth wrote:
Dalar wrote:
Corth wrote:
Dalar wrote:
Teyaha wrote:dont touch caster damage, or only cut in half the l33t players that keep asking for it.

some of us play the game differently than you. dont punish us because you want it changed.

up melee damage slightly, or tune that KNOB (remember they have knobs) so they do more damage than they do now.


that has to be the most selfish reasoning i've ever heard


Whats selfish about not wanting the mud balanced at the expense of one's area spells? I dont get it.. :)

Corth


there is no blind gene? :P
i thought he was saying he doesn't want any caster damage touched because that's the only way he knows how to play or something.


I'm just quoting you now for shits and giggles.

Interesting.


Not really.

This is just like my assoc behavior. biters


I don't really think it has anything to do with the assoc, it's just that we're all assholes mostly.


And assholes mostly come out at night. Mostly.


Nobody has done this in a little while.

Glorishan


No, but we should do it more often I think.


How many more do you think we can do before it just crashes the bbs?


Pretty pictures.


Maybe this thread should be renamed to "The Most Requoted Responses"


I don't think so, Tim.


Not to jump on the bandwagon or anything, but I just want to see teyaha's post disappear in the middle of the quote.

So you're saying your off the wagon again?


Hi.

OMG I quoted Arilin quoting thanuk quoting Kifle quoting thanuk quoting Sesexe quoting Stamm quoting thanuk quoting Dlur quoting Glorishan quoting thanuk quoting Dlur (again) quoting Dalar quoting thanuk quoting Dlur (yet again) quoting Corth quoting Dalar quoting Corth quoting Dalar quoting Teyaha.


And then, I quoted myself quoting Arilin quoting thanuk quoting Kifle quoting thanuk quoting Sesexe quoting Stamm quoting thanuk quoting Dlur quoting Glorishan quoting thanuk quoting Dlur (again) quoting Dalar quoting thanuk quoting Dlur (yet again) quoting Corth quoting Dalar quoting Corth quoting Dalar quoting Teyaha.

I am teh pwn.


You were only the pwn til I quoted you quoting Arilin quoting thanuk quoting Kifle quoting thanuk quoting Sesexe quoting Stamm quoting thanuk quoting Dlur quoting Glorishan quoting thanuk quoting Dlur (again) quoting Dalar quoting thanuk quoting Dlur (yet again) quoting Corth quoting Dalar quoting Corth quoting Dalar quoting Teyaha.

This is way more interesting than the most responses thread ever was, btw.


I heartily agree. Much more interesting.


I join the club?


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Postby Arilin Nydelahar » Thu Nov 13, 2003 11:27 pm

Orku wrote:
othelil wrote:
Kossuth wrote:
Salen wrote:
Salen wrote:
Arilin Nydelahar wrote:
thanuk wrote:
Kifle wrote:
thanuk wrote:
Sesexe wrote:
Stamm wrote:
thanuk wrote:
Dlur wrote:
Glorishan wrote:
thanuk wrote:
Dlur wrote:
Dalar wrote:
thanuk wrote:
Dlur wrote:
Corth wrote:
Dalar wrote:
Corth wrote:
Dalar wrote:
Teyaha wrote:dont touch caster damage, or only cut in half the l33t players that keep asking for it.

some of us play the game differently than you. dont punish us because you want it changed.

up melee damage slightly, or tune that KNOB (remember they have knobs) so they do more damage than they do now.


that has to be the most selfish reasoning i've ever heard


Whats selfish about not wanting the mud balanced at the expense of one's area spells? I dont get it.. :)

Corth


there is no blind gene? :P
i thought he was saying he doesn't want any caster damage touched because that's the only way he knows how to play or something.


I'm just quoting you now for shits and giggles.

Interesting.


Not really.

This is just like my assoc behavior. biters


I don't really think it has anything to do with the assoc, it's just that we're all assholes mostly.


And assholes mostly come out at night. Mostly.


Nobody has done this in a little while.

Glorishan


No, but we should do it more often I think.


How many more do you think we can do before it just crashes the bbs?


Pretty pictures.


Maybe this thread should be renamed to "The Most Requoted Responses"


I don't think so, Tim.


Not to jump on the bandwagon or anything, but I just want to see teyaha's post disappear in the middle of the quote.

So you're saying your off the wagon again?


Hi.

OMG I quoted Arilin quoting thanuk quoting Kifle quoting thanuk quoting Sesexe quoting Stamm quoting thanuk quoting Dlur quoting Glorishan quoting thanuk quoting Dlur (again) quoting Dalar quoting thanuk quoting Dlur (yet again) quoting Corth quoting Dalar quoting Corth quoting Dalar quoting Teyaha.


And then, I quoted myself quoting Arilin quoting thanuk quoting Kifle quoting thanuk quoting Sesexe quoting Stamm quoting thanuk quoting Dlur quoting Glorishan quoting thanuk quoting Dlur (again) quoting Dalar quoting thanuk quoting Dlur (yet again) quoting Corth quoting Dalar quoting Corth quoting Dalar quoting Teyaha.

I am teh pwn.


You were only the pwn til I quoted you quoting Arilin quoting thanuk quoting Kifle quoting thanuk quoting Sesexe quoting Stamm quoting thanuk quoting Dlur quoting Glorishan quoting thanuk quoting Dlur (again) quoting Dalar quoting thanuk quoting Dlur (yet again) quoting Corth quoting Dalar quoting Corth quoting Dalar quoting Teyaha.

This is way more interesting than the most responses thread ever was, btw.


I heartily agree. Much more interesting.


I join the club?


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Postby Ambar » Thu Nov 13, 2003 11:28 pm

Orku wrote:
othelil wrote:
Kossuth wrote:
Salen wrote:
Salen wrote:
Arilin Nydelahar wrote:
thanuk wrote:
Kifle wrote:
thanuk wrote:
Sesexe wrote:
Stamm wrote:
thanuk wrote:
Dlur wrote:
Glorishan wrote:
thanuk wrote:
Dlur wrote:
Dalar wrote:
thanuk wrote:
Dlur wrote:
Corth wrote:
Dalar wrote:
Corth wrote:
Dalar wrote:
Teyaha wrote:dont touch caster damage, or only cut in half the l33t players that keep asking for it.

some of us play the game differently than you. dont punish us because you want it changed.

up melee damage slightly, or tune that KNOB (remember they have knobs) so they do more damage than they do now.


You are all truly dorky especially Arilin ... and i know we arent supposed to talk about illegals .. but .. ermm scroll down the thread REALLY damn fast and imagine trippin and watching it??? mmmm pictures :)

that has to be the most selfish reasoning i've ever heard


Whats selfish about not wanting the mud balanced at the expense of one's area spells? I dont get it.. :)

Corth


there is no blind gene? :P
i thought he was saying he doesn't want any caster damage touched because that's the only way he knows how to play or something.


I'm just quoting you now for shits and giggles.

Interesting.


Not really.

This is just like my assoc behavior. biters


I don't really think it has anything to do with the assoc, it's just that we're all assholes mostly.


And assholes mostly come out at night. Mostly.


Nobody has done this in a little while.

Glorishan


No, but we should do it more often I think.


How many more do you think we can do before it just crashes the bbs?


Pretty pictures.


Maybe this thread should be renamed to "The Most Requoted Responses"


I don't think so, Tim.


Not to jump on the bandwagon or anything, but I just want to see teyaha's post disappear in the middle of the quote.

So you're saying your off the wagon again?


Hi.

OMG I quoted Arilin quoting thanuk quoting Kifle quoting thanuk quoting Sesexe quoting Stamm quoting thanuk quoting Dlur quoting Glorishan quoting thanuk quoting Dlur (again) quoting Dalar quoting thanuk quoting Dlur (yet again) quoting Corth quoting Dalar quoting Corth quoting Dalar quoting Teyaha.


And then, I quoted myself quoting Arilin quoting thanuk quoting Kifle quoting thanuk quoting Sesexe quoting Stamm quoting thanuk quoting Dlur quoting Glorishan quoting thanuk quoting Dlur (again) quoting Dalar quoting thanuk quoting Dlur (yet again) quoting Corth quoting Dalar quoting Corth quoting Dalar quoting Teyaha.

I am teh pwn.


You were only the pwn til I quoted you quoting Arilin quoting thanuk quoting Kifle quoting thanuk quoting Sesexe quoting Stamm quoting thanuk quoting Dlur quoting Glorishan quoting thanuk quoting Dlur (again) quoting Dalar quoting thanuk quoting Dlur (yet again) quoting Corth quoting Dalar quoting Corth quoting Dalar quoting Teyaha.

This is way more interesting than the most responses thread ever was, btw.


I heartily agree. Much more interesting.


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Postby Iyachtu » Thu Nov 13, 2003 11:34 pm

I'm just glad I don't have epilepsy.
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Postby Sesexe » Thu Nov 13, 2003 11:39 pm

Ambar wrote:
Orku wrote:
othelil wrote:
Kossuth wrote:
Salen wrote:
Salen wrote:
Arilin Nydelahar wrote:
thanuk wrote:
Kifle wrote:
thanuk wrote:
Sesexe wrote:
Stamm wrote:
thanuk wrote:
Dlur wrote:
Glorishan wrote:
thanuk wrote:
Dlur wrote:
Dalar wrote:
thanuk wrote:
Dlur wrote:
Corth wrote:
Dalar wrote:
Corth wrote:
Dalar wrote:
Teyaha wrote:dont touch caster damage, or only cut in half the l33t players that keep asking for it.

some of us play the game differently than you. dont punish us because you want it changed.

up melee damage slightly, or tune that KNOB (remember they have knobs) so they do more damage than they do now.


You are all truly dorky especially Arilin ... and i know we arent supposed to talk about illegals .. but .. ermm scroll down the thread REALLY damn fast and imagine trippin and watching it??? mmmm pictures :)

that has to be the most selfish reasoning i've ever heard


Whats selfish about not wanting the mud balanced at the expense of one's area spells? I dont get it.. :)

Corth


there is no blind gene? :P
i thought he was saying he doesn't want any caster damage touched because that's the only way he knows how to play or something.


I'm just quoting you now for shits and giggles.

Interesting.


Not really.

This is just like my assoc behavior. biters


I don't really think it has anything to do with the assoc, it's just that we're all assholes mostly.


And assholes mostly come out at night. Mostly.


Nobody has done this in a little while.

Glorishan


No, but we should do it more often I think.


How many more do you think we can do before it just crashes the bbs?


Pretty pictures.


Maybe this thread should be renamed to "The Most Requoted Responses"


I don't think so, Tim.


Not to jump on the bandwagon or anything, but I just want to see teyaha's post disappear in the middle of the quote.

So you're saying your off the wagon again?


Hi.

OMG I quoted Arilin quoting thanuk quoting Kifle quoting thanuk quoting Sesexe quoting Stamm quoting thanuk quoting Dlur quoting Glorishan quoting thanuk quoting Dlur (again) quoting Dalar quoting thanuk quoting Dlur (yet again) quoting Corth quoting Dalar quoting Corth quoting Dalar quoting Teyaha.


And then, I quoted myself quoting Arilin quoting thanuk quoting Kifle quoting thanuk quoting Sesexe quoting Stamm quoting thanuk quoting Dlur quoting Glorishan quoting thanuk quoting Dlur (again) quoting Dalar quoting thanuk quoting Dlur (yet again) quoting Corth quoting Dalar quoting Corth quoting Dalar quoting Teyaha.

I am teh pwn.


You were only the pwn til I quoted you quoting Arilin quoting thanuk quoting Kifle quoting thanuk quoting Sesexe quoting Stamm quoting thanuk quoting Dlur quoting Glorishan quoting thanuk quoting Dlur (again) quoting Dalar quoting thanuk quoting Dlur (yet again) quoting Corth quoting Dalar quoting Corth quoting Dalar quoting Teyaha.

This is way more interesting than the most responses thread ever was, btw.


I heartily agree. Much more interesting.


I join the club?


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