PSP != HP
PSP != HP
Seriously. 1 psp gained isn't = 1 hp loss. Why the cloak went from 30/10 to 10/30 is really beyond me. With the current state of eq, if I had to trade hp for psp on a one to one ratio, I'd trade 0 hp's.
At 10 hp, that cloak should be at about 70 psp to make it worth taking over another hp only cloak.
Skull still needs serious looking at. Same pilosophy seems to have been applied while designing it.
The psp to hp point ratio should be more along the lines of 3:1.
At 10 hp, that cloak should be at about 70 psp to make it worth taking over another hp only cloak.
Skull still needs serious looking at. Same pilosophy seems to have been applied while designing it.
The psp to hp point ratio should be more along the lines of 3:1.
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I agree with your statements Ice, but what items are we talking about here?
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Having never played a squid, I'm not sure exactly how much impact more psp's make.
I'm guessing though that the reason psp's and hps are the same cost is because with more psp's, squids can do more damage for longer amounts of time - keeping the group alive. Bards also use mana for their songs, so it could be used as a way to keep them from continuosly singing without fear of running out of mana.
I suppose its a trade off.. more damage/singing, or better survivability.
I'm guessing though that the reason psp's and hps are the same cost is because with more psp's, squids can do more damage for longer amounts of time - keeping the group alive. Bards also use mana for their songs, so it could be used as a way to keep them from continuosly singing without fear of running out of mana.
I suppose its a trade off.. more damage/singing, or better survivability.
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I have 667 psp naked at level 47. UB takes roughly 80psp, wormhole is roughly 175psp.
I have 101 hps naked at level 47.
If any of my hp items lose hp and gain psp it better be a huge ammount of psp gained vs hps lost to make me consider wearing said item.
I have 101 hps naked at level 47.
If any of my hp items lose hp and gain psp it better be a huge ammount of psp gained vs hps lost to make me consider wearing said item.
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Bards really don't need +psp gear. Their songs allow them to regenerate enough psp while the group is memming in zones and even while doing experience. I agree, hps are very valuable but being able to throw an extra ultrablast or two isn't going to be a huge deal, since you'll just have to meditate and or suck out enough brains to regain all that extra psp after the battle is over.
Bards really don't need +psp gear. Their songs allow them to regenerate enough psp while the group is memming in zones and even while doing experience. I agree, hps are very valuable but being able to throw an extra ultrablast or two isn't going to be a huge deal, since you'll just have to meditate and or suck out enough brains to regain all that extra psp after the battle is over.
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Yayaril wrote:I agree, hps are very valuable but being able to throw an extra ultrablast or two isn't going to be a huge deal, since you'll just have to meditate and or suck out enough brains to regain all that extra psp after the battle is over.
1) With the ammount of +psp on any item you would need roughly 3-4 items with +psp to get that extra ultrablast in. That is probably 100+ hp in gear I've lost. Two extra psp and you're talking a full suit of +psp gear dropping me down to about my natural 101hp, 1 riposte and I'm in need of a rez.
2) You know how often I get to drain a mob in a zone? Never, unless there happens to be a weenie mob in the same room as the group while we med and a rogue hasn't backstabbed it before I can dominate it.
Imms, can you remove +psp equipment and lower the cost of psi skills accordingly? How about a definition of what exactly +max_pow does? It sure as heck doesn't give us more psp. I've heard speculation that it gives our skills a longer duration and our damage blast higher damage.
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I don't get you guys sometimes, I really don't.
http://www.torilmud.org/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=12309
Damned if you do, damned if you don't.
http://www.torilmud.org/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=12309
Damned if you do, damned if you don't.
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[quote="mynazzaraxxsyn"]How about a definition of what exactly +max_pow does? It sure as heck doesn't give us more psp. I've heard speculation that it gives our skills a longer duration and our damage blast higher damage.[/quote]
Max_power is infinitely more useful than +psp.
(As a pure aside, change the values back on every psp container, because they were done badly)
Max_power is infinitely more useful than +psp.
(As a pure aside, change the values back on every psp container, because they were done badly)
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Xisiqomelir wrote:mynazzaraxxsyn wrote:How about a definition of what exactly +max_pow does? It sure as heck doesn't give us more psp.
Max_power is far, far more useful than +psp.
Ok HOW exactly is it better? WHAT does it do? I didn't ask if it was better... I want to know what good it is.
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Sylvos wrote:I don't get you guys sometimes, I really don't.
http://www.torilmud.org/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=12309
Damned if you do, damned if you don't.
There is a difference in wanting +psp and not wanting our +hp equipment hosed at the cost of a couple psp.
Every other class is doing this same thing in the 2nd round thread, but in the form of asking for more hit on a dam item or vice versa. Or add some ac or something else.
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Salen wrote:I bet I can explain it, but Kossuth said not to give specifics for the calculator.
Doesn't matter how the calculator works, no squid in their right mind is going to use this stuff. We'll just stop bidding on mana gear and get more hp stuff.
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Kossuth responds to your petition with 'is it bad that the two words i think of when i see yer title are hottub and cthulhu? :('
I agree 100% with all statements regarding lack of +hp or ac incentives to even bother with psp gear anymore. I bagged my whole set and am now dressing like my mages. The question of +max power was an interesting one too. I see no advantages in wearing +max power eq. I thought by now the gods might have worked out something advantageos to a notch of this stat, but it does not seem so. These are not terribly pressing issues regarding squids in general, but it would be nice to see all the eq created for thier benifit out there do something to warrant the change from wearing the same old mage eq. The now useless items designed for squid use include anything and everything that is +psp at this time. A shame really imo, but not really a pressing issue like I said before. I could get used to having -20ac and 700hp myself.. even if my psp has dropped about 160. I think originally that is why the items were statted and accepted into the game at near standard mage +hp levels along with the psp bonus. Even then, the lack of ac was a questionable tradeoff. Nobody likes to be crit and one rounded, or two, since you can't flee right away in most cases as a squid. It would be nice if this issue were adressed in the future, but I can already see by playing a squid that the gods will have to re-examine thier stat calculator in the issue of psionisists, or just throw out the idea of +psp and +max pow altogether, kind of like they just did.
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