headbutt issues

[amolol]

T: Wodat TC: excellent E: bounty EC: small wounds P: std >
A dwarven bounty hunter parries Illilel's lunge at him.
A dwarven bounty hunter misses you with his slash.
A dwarven bounty hunter misses you with his slash.
You slash a dwarven bounty hunter.

< 735h/735H 45v/113V >
< T: Wodat TC: excellent E: bounty EC: small wounds P: std > They're too short for you to headbutt!


im a dwarf, he is a dwarf... is he a midget?

[Sarell]

he was prolly lying down / bashed / etc... same message

[Yasden]

I thought this was more of a "head up butt" issue, not headbutt..

[Sarell]

sometimes you get that 'wait until they get up' message...is there different message for the different !standing states? *shrug*

[Vigis]

I've always gotten the "they're too short" message when they have been bashed.

The "wait until they get up message" is for when they are flat on their back from a bodyslam or a trip. (Isn't it nice that an 85 pound rogue can knock a person down further than a 275 lb warrior?) :p

[Crumar]

Sure the rogue uses their momentum to trip them.

[Llaaldara]

I've always gotten the "they're too short" message when they have been bashed.

The "wait until they get up message" is for when they are flat on their back from a bodyslam or a trip. (Isn't it nice that an 85 pound rogue can knock a person down further than a 275 lb warrior?) :p

You have a 275 lb head??

[Vigis]

Was referring to the fact that bash knocks them to kneeling, while trip lays them out.

[amolol]

he wasnt bashed right off, i attempted to start combat with a headbutt. and it said he was to short i just picked that particular porion of the log cause i was closest

[ssar]

A factor may be the mob's height compared to yours, e.g. your height might be 49 inches (standing), and that particular mob's height might be, say, 40 inches (standing), and such differential may be above the required amount to be within range.

Also, if a mob is quite short the differential may have to be closer again, to facilitate headbutt.. Unsure.

Of course, kneeling, crouching, laying down, reduce/enlarge, embody all affect this as well.

I also seem to recall inconsistent messages indicating inability to headbutt when the mob is bashed, prone, etc. but can't be sure.
Gonna examine it more closely.

[amolol]

yes if the mob is not standing you cannot head butt it, the mud sends yyou a message that says why dont you let them stand up first (i know this works when they are sitting/prone not sure on kneeling)