NO WONDER nobody uses fumble

[Thilindel]

VERY LONG - SORRY!!


RETURN for more, q to quit] 6 - magic missile
1 - detect magic

And you are currently memorizing the following spells:
6 seconds: ( 4th) fumble

You can memorize no more spells.

< 114h/215H 120v/120V >
< P: sit >
The drunk patron begins talking to himself.

< 115h/215H 120v/120V >
< P: sit >
The drunk patron says 'Hey, waiter! B-Bring me another dr-drink!'

< 115h/215H 120v/120V >
< P: sit >
You have finished memorizing fumble.
Your studies are complete.
stand
save

< 116h/215H 120v/120V >
< P: sit > You clamber to your feet.
c 'fumble' bouncer

< 116h/215H 120v/120V >
< P: std > Saving...

< 116h/215H 120v/120V >
< P: std > You start chanting...

< 116h/215H 120v/120V >
< P: std >
You complete your spell...
Your spell fails to take hold on the tavern bouncer.

< 116h/215H 120v/120V >
< P: std > re
mem
pray
med
med
You sit down and relax.

< 117h/215H 120v/120V >
< P: sit > You have memorized the following spells:
( 7th circle) 1 - power word blind
( 6th circle) 1 - identify
2 - blur
1 - needle swarm
( 5th circle) 3 - stone skin
1 - dimension door
1 - coldshield
1 - stumble
( 4th circle) 1 - teleport
1 - sleep
2 - haste
1 - dispel magic
1 - mass invisibility
( 3rd circle) 2 - ray of enfeeblement
6 - chromatic orb
( 2nd circle) 4 - chill touch
1 - minor creation
1 - invisibility
1 - faerie fire
2 - energy shield
( 1st circle) 2 - detect invisibility
You continue your study.

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< P: sit > You start meditating...

< 117h/215H 120v/120V >
< P: sit > You stop meditating.
You start meditating...

< 117h/215H 120v/120V >
< P: sit > TICK IN 5 SECONDS.

You have finished memorizing fumble.
Your studies are complete.
stand
save

< 118h/215H 120v/120V >
< P: sit > You clamber to your feet.
c 'fumble' bouncer

< 118h/215H 120v/120V >
< P: std > Saving...

< 118h/215H 120v/120V >
< P: std > You start chanting...

< 118h/215H 120v/120V >
< P: std >
Casting: fumble ***

< 119h/215H 120v/120V >
< P: std >
Casting: fumble **

< 119h/215H 120v/120V >
< P: std >
Casting: fumble *

< 119h/215H 120v/120V >
< P: std >
You have learned something new about spellcast enchantment!
save
You complete your spell...
Your spell fails to take hold on the tavern bouncer.

< 119h/215H 120v/120V >
< P: std > re
mem
pray
med
med
Saving...

< 120h/215H 120v/120V >
< P: std > You sit down and relax.

< 120h/215H 120v/120V >
< P: sit > You have memorized the following spells:
( 7th circle) 1 - power word blind
( 6th circle) 1 - identify
2 - blur
1 - needle swarm
( 5th circle) 3 - stone skin
1 - dimension door
1 - coldshield
1 - stumble
( 4th circle) 1 - teleport
1 - sleep
2 - haste
1 - dispel magic
1 - mass invisibility
( 3rd circle) 2 - ray of enfeeblement
6 - chromatic orb
( 2nd circle) 4 - chill touch
1 - minor creation
1 - invisibility
1 - faerie fire
2 - energy shield
( 1st circle) 2 - detect invisibility
You continue your study.

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< P: sit > You start meditating...

< 120h/215H 120v/120V >
< P: sit > You stop meditating.
You start meditating...

< 120h/215H 120v/120V >
< P: sit >
The prostitute adjusts her stockings.

< 120h/215H 120v/120V >
< P: sit >
The drunk patron begins talking to himself.

< 121h/215H 120v/120V >
< P: sit >
You have finished memorizing fumble.
Your studies are complete.
stand
save

< 121h/215H 120v/120V >
< P: sit > You clamber to your feet.
c 'fumble' bouncer

< 121h/215H 120v/120V >
< P: std > Saving...

< 121h/215H 120v/120V >
< P: std > You start chanting...

< 121h/215H 120v/120V >
< P: std >
The drunk patron looks at you through a drunken haze.

< 121h/215H 120v/120V >
< P: std >
Casting: fumble *

< 122h/215H 120v/120V >
< P: std >
You complete your spell...
Your spell fails to take hold on the tavern bouncer.

< 122h/215H 120v/120V >
< P: std > re
mem
pray
med
med
You sit down and relax.

< 122h/215H 120v/120V >
< P: sit > You have memorized the following spells:
( 7th circle) 1 - power word blind
( 6th circle) 1 - identify
2 - blur
1 - needle swarm
( 5th circle) 3 - stone skin
1 - dimension door
1 - coldshield
1 - stumble
( 4th circle) 1 - teleport
1 - sleep
2 - haste
1 - dispel magic
1 - mass invisibility
( 3rd circle) 2 - ray of enfeeblement
6 - chromatic orb
( 2nd circle) 4 - chill touch
1 - minor creation
1 - invisibility
1 - faerie fire
2 - energy shield
( 1st circle) 2 - detect invisibility
You continue your study.

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< P: sit > You start meditating...

< 122h/215H 120v/120V >
< P: sit > You stop meditating.
You start meditating...

< 122h/215H 120v/120V >
< P: sit >
The drunk patron looks at you through a drunken haze.

< 123h/215H 120v/120V >
< P: sit >
You have finished memorizing fumble.
Your studies are complete.
stand
save

< 124h/215H 120v/120V >
< P: sit > You clamber to your feet.

< 124h/215H 120v/120V >
< P: std > Saving...

< 125h/215H 120v/120V >
< P: std >
c 'fumble' bouncer
The prostitute adjusts her stockings.

< 125h/215H 120v/120V >
< P: std > You start chanting...

< 125h/215H 120v/120V >
< P: std >
The drunk patron looks at you through a drunken haze.
Casting: fumble *

< 125h/215H 120v/120V >
< P: std >
You complete your spell...
Your spell fails to take hold on the tavern bouncer.

< 125h/215H 120v/120V >
< P: std > re
mem
pray
med
med
You sit down and relax.

< 126h/215H 120v/120V >
< P: sit > You have memorized the following spells:
( 7th circle) 1 - power word blind
( 6th circle) 1 - identify
2 - blur
1 - needle swarm
( 5th circle) 3 - stone skin
1 - dimension door
1 - coldshield
1 - stumble
( 4th circle) 1 - teleport
1 - sleep
2 - haste
1 - dispel magic
1 - mass invisibility
( 3rd circle) 2 - ray of enfeeblement
6 - chromatic orb
( 2nd circle) 4 - chill touch
1 - minor creation
1 - invisibility
1 - faerie fire
2 - energy shield
( 1st circle) 2 - detect invisibility
You continue your study.

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< P: sit > You start meditating...

< 126h/215H 120v/120V >
< P: sit > You stop meditating.
You start meditating...

< 126h/215H 120v/120V >
< P: sit >
From outside, the faint chimes of the clock tower sound 9am.

< 127h/215H 120v/120V >
< P: sit >
The prostitute struts around in front of you.

< 127h/215H 120v/120V >
< P: sit >
The drunk patron begins talking to himself.

< 127h/215H 120v/120V >
< P: sit >
You have finished memorizing fumble.
Your studies are complete.
stand
save

< 128h/215H 120v/120V >
< P: sit > You clamber to your feet.

< 128h/215H 120v/120V >
< P: std > Saving...

< 128h/215H 120v/120V >
< P: std > c 'fumble' bouncer
You start chanting...

< 128h/215H 120v/120V >
< P: std >
The female bartender starts casting a spell called 'protection from undead'.

< 128h/215H 120v/120V >
< P: std >
Casting: fumble *

< 129h/215H 120v/120V >
< P: std >
You complete your spell...
Your spell fails to take hold on the tavern bouncer.

< 129h/215H 120v/120V >
< P: std > re
mem
pray
med
med

The drunk patron begins talking to himself.

< 129h/215H 120v/120V >
< P: std > You sit down and relax.

< 129h/215H 120v/120V >
< P: sit > You have memorized the following spells:
( 7th circle) 1 - power word blind
( 6th circle) 1 - identify
2 - blur
1 - needle swarm
( 5th circle) 3 - stone skin
1 - dimension door
1 - coldshield
1 - stumble
( 4th circle) 1 - teleport
1 - sleep
2 - haste
1 - dispel magic
1 - mass invisibility
( 3rd circle) 2 - ray of enfeeblement
6 - chromatic orb
( 2nd circle) 4 - chill touch
1 - minor creation
1 - invisibility
1 - faerie fire
2 - energy shield
( 1st circle) 2 - detect invisibility
You continue your study.

[RETURN for more, q to quit]< 129h/215H 120v/120V >
< P: sit > You start meditating...

< 129h/215H 120v/120V >
< P: sit > You stop meditating.
You start meditating...

< 129h/215H 120v/120V >
< P: sit >
The female bartender completes her spell...
The female bartender utters the words, 'sfahzqhuai yfaw jioculoae'

< 130h/215H 120v/120V >
< P: sit > TICK IN 5 SECONDS.

Autosaving...

< 130h/215H 120v/120V >
< P: sit >
You have finished memorizing fumble.
Your studies are complete.
stand
save

< 130h/215H 120v/120V >
< P: sit > You clamber to your feet.

< 130h/215H 120v/120V >
< P: std > Saving...

< 131h/215H 120v/120V >
< P: std > c 'fumble' bouncer
You start chanting...

< 131h/215H 120v/120V >
< P: std >
Casting: fumble *

< 131h/215H 120v/120V >
< P: std >
You complete your spell...
Your spell fails to take hold on the tavern bouncer.

< 131h/215H 120v/120V >
< P: std > re
mem
pray
med
med
You sit down and relax.

< 132h/215H 120v/120V >
< P: sit > You have memorized the following spells:
( 7th circle) 1 - power word blind
( 6th circle) 1 - identify
2 - blur
1 - needle swarm
( 5th circle) 3 - stone skin
1 - dimension door
1 - coldshield
1 - stumble
( 4th circle) 1 - teleport
1 - sleep
2 - haste
1 - dispel magic
1 - mass invisibility
( 3rd circle) 2 - ray of enfeeblement
6 - chromatic orb
( 2nd circle) 4 - chill touch
1 - minor creation
1 - invisibility
1 - faerie fire
2 - energy shield
( 1st circle) 2 - detect invisibility
You continue your study.

[RETURN for more, q to quit]< 132h/215H 120v/120V >
< P: sit > You start meditating...

< 132h/215H 120v/120V >
< P: sit > You stop meditating.
You start meditating...

< 132h/215H 120v/120V >
< P: sit >
You have finished memorizing fumble.
Your studies are complete.
stand
save

< 133h/215H 120v/120V >
< P: sit > You clamber to your feet.
fur bouncer

< 133h/215H 120v/120V >
< P: std > Saving...

< 133h/215H 120v/120V >
< P: std > Pardon?

< 133h/215H 120v/120V >
< P: std > c 'fumble' bouncer
You start chanting...

< 134h/215H 120v/120V >
< P: std >
Casting: fumble **

< 134h/215H 120v/120V >
< P: std >
Casting: fumble *

< 135h/215H 120v/120V >
< P: std >
You complete your spell...
Your spell fails to take hold on the tavern bouncer.

< 135h/215H 120v/120V >
< P: std > re
mem
pray
med
med

The drunk patron begins talking to himself.

< 135h/215H 120v/120V >
< P: std > You sit down and relax.

< 135h/215H 120v/120V >
< P: sit > You have memorized the following spells:
( 7th circle) 1 - power word blind
( 6th circle) 1 - identify
2 - blur
1 - needle swarm
( 5th circle) 3 - stone skin
1 - dimension door
1 - coldshield
1 - stumble
( 4th circle) 1 - teleport
1 - sleep
2 - haste
1 - dispel magic
1 - mass invisibility
( 3rd circle) 2 - ray of enfeeblement
6 - chromatic orb
( 2nd circle) 4 - chill touch
1 - minor creation
1 - invisibility
1 - faerie fire
2 - energy shield
( 1st circle) 2 - detect invisibility
You continue your study.

[RETURN for more, q to quit]< 135h/215H 120v/120V >
< P: sit > You start meditating...

< 135h/215H 120v/120V >
< P: sit > You stop meditating.
You start meditating...

< 135h/215H 120v/120V >
< P: sit >
The drunk patron looks at you through a drunken haze.

< 137h/215H 120v/120V >
< P: sit >
You have finished memorizing fumble.
Your studies are complete.
stand
save

< 138h/215H 120v/120V >
< P: sit > c 'fumble' bouncer
You clamber to your feet.

< 138h/215H 120v/120V >
< P: std > Saving...

< 138h/215H 120v/120V >
< P: std > You start chanting...

< 138h/215H 120v/120V >
< P: std >
You complete your spell...
Your spell fails to take hold on the tavern bouncer.

< 138h/215H 120v/120V >
< P: std > dr water
You drink the holy water from a heavy tankard made of pewter.
You do not feel thirsty.
You are full.
You feel touched by a higher power!
You feel a little better!

< 146h/215H 120v/120V >
< P: std > re
mem
pray
med
med
You sit down and relax.

< 146h/215H 120v/120V >
< P: sit > The world speeds up around you.
You have memorized the following spells:
( 7th circle) 1 - power word blind
( 6th circle) 1 - identify
2 - blur
1 - needle swarm
( 5th circle) 3 - stone skin
1 - dimension door
1 - coldshield
1 - stumble
( 4th circle) 1 - teleport
1 - sleep
2 - haste
1 - dispel magic
1 - mass invisibility
( 3rd circle) 2 - ray of enfeeblement
6 - chromatic orb
( 2nd circle) 4 - chill touch
1 - minor creation
1 - invisibility
1 - faerie fire
2 - energy shield
( 1st circle) 2 - detect invisibility
You continue your study.

[RETURN for more, q to quit]< 146h/215H 120v/120V >
< P: sit > You start meditating...

< 146h/215H 120v/120V >
< P: sit > You stop meditating.
You start meditating...

< 146h/215H 120v/120V >
< P: sit >
The prostitute looks around for an interesting prospect.

< 146h/215H 120v/120V >
< P: sit > c 'fumble' bouncer
You stop meditating.
You can't concentrate enough while resting.
You can't do this sitting!

< 148h/215H 120v/120V >
< P: sit > mem
You have memorized the following spells:
( 7th circle) 1 - power word blind
( 6th circle) 1 - identify
2 - blur
1 - needle swarm
( 5th circle) 3 - stone skin
1 - dimension door
1 - coldshield
1 - stumble
( 4th circle) 1 - teleport
1 - sleep
2 - haste
1 - dispel magic
1 - mass invisibility
( 3rd circle) 2 - ray of enfeeblement
6 - chromatic orb
( 2nd circle) 4 - chill touch
1 - minor creation
1 - invisibility
1 - faerie fire
2 - energy shield
( 1st circle) 2 - detect invisibility


[RETURN for more, q to quit] 6 - magic missile
1 - detect magic

And you are currently memorizing the following spells:
3 seconds: ( 4th) fumble

You can memorize no more spells.

< 149h/215H 120v/120V >
< P: sit > med
TICK IN 5 SECONDS.
You start meditating...

< 149h/215H 120v/120V >
< P: sit >
You have finished memorizing fumble.
Your studies are complete.
stand
save

< 150h/215H 120v/120V >
< P: sit > You clamber to your feet.
c 'fumble' bouncer

< 150h/215H 120v/120V >
< P: std > Saving...

< 150h/215H 120v/120V >
< P: std > You start chanting...

< 150h/215H 120v/120V >
< P: std >
Casting: fumble *

< 150h/215H 120v/120V >
< P: std >
You complete your spell...
Your spell fails to take hold on the tavern bouncer.

< 150h/215H 120v/120V >
< P: std > re
mem
pray
med
med
You sit down and relax.

< 151h/215H 120v/120V >
< P: sit > You have memorized the following spells:
( 7th circle) 1 - power word blind
( 6th circle) 1 - identify
2 - blur
1 - needle swarm
( 5th circle) 3 - stone skin
1 - dimension door
1 - coldshield
1 - stumble
( 4th circle) 1 - teleport
1 - sleep
2 - haste
1 - dispel magic
1 - mass invisibility
( 3rd circle) 2 - ray of enfeeblement
6 - chromatic orb
( 2nd circle) 4 - chill touch
1 - minor creation
1 - invisibility
1 - faerie fire
2 - energy shield
( 1st circle) 2 - detect invisibility
You continue your study.

[RETURN for more, q to quit]< 151h/215H 120v/120V >
< P: sit > You start meditating...

< 151h/215H 120v/120V >
< P: sit > You stop meditating.
You start meditating...

< 151h/215H 120v/120V >
< P: sit > wh god
Listing of the Staff
-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
<None>

There are 0 visible staff member(s) on.

< 151h/215H 120v/120V >
< P: sit > med
You stop meditating.
You start meditating...

< 151h/215H 120v/120V >
< P: sit >
You have finished memorizing fumble.
Your studies are complete.
stand
save

< 152h/215H 120v/120V >
< P: sit > You clamber to your feet.

< 152h/215H 120v/120V >
< P: std > Saving...

< 152h/215H 120v/120V >
< P: std > c 'fumble' bouncer
You start chanting...

< 152h/215H 120v/120V >
< P: std >
Casting: fumble *

< 153h/215H 120v/120V >
< P: std >
You complete your spell...
Your spell fails to take hold on the tavern bouncer.

< 153h/215H 120v/120V >
< P: std > re
mem
pray
med
med

The drunk patron says 'Hey, waiter! B-Bring me another dr-drink!'

< 153h/215H 120v/120V >
< P: std > You sit down and relax.

< 153h/215H 120v/120V >
< P: sit > You have memorized the following spells:
( 7th circle) 1 - power word blind
( 6th circle) 1 - identify
2 - blur
1 - needle swarm
( 5th circle) 3 - stone skin
1 - dimension door
1 - coldshield
1 - stumble
( 4th circle) 1 - teleport
1 - sleep
2 - haste
1 - dispel magic
1 - mass invisibility
( 3rd circle) 2 - ray of enfeeblement
6 - chromatic orb
( 2nd circle) 4 - chill touch
1 - minor creation
1 - invisibility
1 - faerie fire
2 - energy shield
( 1st circle) 2 - detect invisibility
You continue your study.

[RETURN for more, q to quit]< 154h/215H 120v/120V >
< P: sit > You start meditating...

< 154h/215H 120v/120V >
< P: sit > You stop meditating.
You start meditating...

< 154h/215H 120v/120V >
< P: sit >
You have finished memorizing fumble.
Your studies are complete.
stand
save

< 155h/215H 120v/120V >
< P: sit > You clamber to your feet.

< 155h/215H 120v/120V >
< P: std > Saving...

< 155h/215H 120v/120V >
< P: std >
The prostitute looks around for an interesting prospect.

< 155h/215H 120v/120V >
< P: std > c 'fumble' bouncer
You start chanting...

< 156h/215H 120v/120V >
< P: std >
Casting: fumble **

< 157h/215H 120v/120V >
< P: std >
Casting: fumble *

< 157h/215H 120v/120V >
< P: std >
You complete your spell...
Your spell fails to take hold on the tavern bouncer.

< 157h/215H 120v/120V >
< P: std > re
mem
pray
med
med
You sit down and relax.

< 158h/215H 120v/120V >
< P: sit > You have memorized the following spells:
( 7th circle) 1 - power word blind
( 6th circle) 1 - identify
2 - blur
1 - needle swarm
( 5th circle) 3 - stone skin
1 - dimension door
1 - coldshield
1 - stumble
( 4th circle) 1 - teleport
1 - sleep
2 - haste
1 - dispel magic
1 - mass invisibility
( 3rd circle) 2 - ray of enfeeblement
6 - chromatic orb
( 2nd circle) 4 - chill touch
1 - minor creation
1 - invisibility
1 - faerie fire
2 - energy shield
( 1st circle) 2 - detect invisibility
You continue your study.

[RETURN for more, q to quit]< 158h/215H 120v/120V >
< P: sit > You start meditating...

< 158h/215H 120v/120V >
< P: sit > You stop meditating.
You start meditating...

< 158h/215H 120v/120V >
< P: sit >
Your flesh loses its stony texture.

< 158h/215H 120v/120V >
< P: sit >
You have finished memorizing fumble.
Your studies are complete.
stand
save

< 160h/215H 120v/120V >
< P: sit > You clamber to your feet.

< 160h/215H 120v/120V >
< P: std > Saving...

< 160h/215H 120v/120V >
< P: std > TICK IN 5 SECONDS.

The drunk merchant enters from the south.

< 162h/215H 120v/120V >
< P: std >
The drunk patron says 'Hey, waiter! B-Bring me another dr-drink!'

< 163h/215H 120v/120V >
< P: std >
The drunk patron begins talking to himself.

< 163h/215H 120v/120V >
< P: std > ...You get the picture

Ran out of memory or something. I tried over 100x FIX FUMBLE please ?

[Sarell]

I use fumble, I certainly used it all the time leveling up Amathiel. Having 0 dex sucks for a mob, specially a mid level one trying to hit a blurred chanter.

[daggaz]

fumble is a key spell for soloing enchanters until they get PWB.
even then, I still use it for soloing certain hard hitting mobs. It is handy.

[Jhorr]

I think Thilindel is trying to make a case that it isn't working correctly, not that it isn't useful.

[fotex]

It won't land on a mob any easier than ray or stumble, I believe.

[Thilindel]

I think I was having a _really_ bad day! Over 100 fails on one mob that's not even lvl 45 is pretty bad tho.

[moritheil]

I think I was having a _really_ bad day! Over 100 fails on one mob that's not even lvl 45 is pretty bad tho.

IIRC Fear has a similar problem, though the rate isn't actually that bad. I've only tested on under level 20 mobs. On level fives, it hits perhaps one in seven times or so. It could easily be as hard to land as fumble on a level 45.

I haven't attempted it in years, though, so let me give you fair warning that my info may be outdated.

[Mitharx]

I never used fumble and never will. I'm sure it has the potential to be useful, but I didn't find it all that great when you consider the amount of mem time involved.

[Lilira]

I stopped using the individual spells to debuff. Chro Orb is all I need. *grin* It lands more often too!!!

[Thilindel]

it appears the procs on orb only last one tick. x feels weaker, next tick when I was testing, I ray'd them. it landed. go figure