Bronze Citadel (BC)

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Bronze Citadel (BC)

Postby Ifin » Tue Oct 17, 2006 7:30 pm

Bids:

Avernus will be done before entering BC.

If you leave before 5 hrs and this was a planned zone, you will probably not get a first round bid, but will still receive a % 10 system points for the run for the voluntary bid system and most likely a full 2nd round bid.

Replacements will get the remaining # of system points (out of 10) from the player that left. Their dice pointsfor the 1st round bid will most likely be that # as well.

* A zone should be looked at in its entirety, not "you get a full bid for eq you were there for, and no bid if you weren't there for it".

Anyone late or really AFK in zone can have a modified bid, up to my discretion.

** If any Avernus rares load, it is my discretion on extending bids or not to anyone who came late.

Just covering all angles.


New Bid Process:

I believe that time/effort should play a majority of the role instead of luck for rewards.

Because it has been mostly the same people in these BC runs, I am implementing a voluntary bid system. If you don't believe in bid systems for whatever reason, then you can ignore this section and your bids won't be affected.

At most there will be 150 dice points per run. 10 dice points/player.

From history, there are 4 1st tier items pretty evenly distributed in need/want: sleeves, dagger, amulet, bracelet (no one "super" item to say that someone will want to keep losing in order to get a better chance of winning). If life was fair, that means everyone would win every 4th trip.


You will get 10 system points for every run. You will lose 30 system points for every 1st tier win. This is more generous than 25% btw (if you go 7 runs, you can still win 42% of the time). If you opt into my bid system, then:

- I will split the dice points from those with negative system points to those with the most system points, as long as they have 30+ system points.
- I might also give leader advantage to the person with the most points (tell them the # of bids on each item). If there aren't any bids on one of the 4 items I will probably tell the persons with the highest points and allow them to change their bids. If there is still not anyone on an item I might tell the entire group and allow people to switch up bids.
- Bidding a non 1st-tier item 1st round will be -5 system points if you win (since this usually results in a win, to prevent people from inflating their points in this fashion). If Tan'ari Gloves are done, they will be -10 system points if bid first round.


- Avernus rares: because they are very rare and unplanned:
** For both rares, everyone may bid on any item, so there will be no dice points distributed to those with highest system points. This is to prevent unnatural pressure on an item due to bid system.
** 1st round BC wins will be docked according system points.
* Diamond Ring: Please don't bid if you already have a matching set
* Diamond Ring: You will be docked -30 system points for winning Ring 1st round.
* Amulet of Sight: You will be docked -20 system points for winning Amulet 1st round.


Example: player 1 & 2 have 50 points. player 3 has -20 points. player 4 (not using bid system) has -30 points. player 1 & 2 will each get 15 dice points on their item, and player 3 will not get a bid this run. player 4 will still get 10 dice points on whatever he/she bids on.


Again this is total voluntary and if you don't want in, there are no increased odds against you (your odds stay 1 out of 15 to win over 4 items).


Any comments (positive/negative) about this always appreciated.



Time: Min: 3.5 hrs Max: 7 hrs Avg: 4 hrs


Possible group makeup: (if you see your class fill still lemme know if interested in coming, as people have alts)


Tank -
Tank -
Tank -
Cleric -
Cleric -
Shaman -
Enchanter -
Illusionist -
Bard -
Rogue -
Rogue -
Melee -
Melee -
Misc -
Misc -
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Postby Ifin » Tue Oct 17, 2006 7:31 pm

I need help filling in wins from last couple trips. I only have for last, but need for others.

Name, Wins, Attempts, Points:


Aneku - 0, 2, 20
Aristan - 0, 1, 10
Ariles - 0, 1, 10
Beern - 0, 1 10
Bongom - 0, 2, 20
Cofen - 1, 2, -10
Deabnue - .5, 1, 5
Deltin - 1, 4, 10
Drahken - 0, 1, 5
Duna - 1, 1, -20
Ghimok - 1, 3, 0
Grylor - 0, 1, 10
Hagah - 1, 2, -15
Ifin - 2, 5, -10
Imis - 1, 1, -20
Inames - 1, 1, -20
Kaisi - 0, 1, 10
Kramel - 0, 2, 20
Lopi - .5, 1, 5
Lyadie - 0, 1, 10
Maladryn - 0, 1, 5
Menliros - 1, 2, -10
Minofagal - 0, 1, 10
Nekler - 2, 3, -30
Nerox - 1, 3, 0
Nimas - 0, 1, 10
Osheara 1, 2, -10
Pidibeple - 1, 5, 20
Raiwen - 0, 1, 10
Rikiv - 1, 2, -10
Rulk - 0, 2, 15
Safar - 0, 1, 10
Sarli - 0, 2, 15
Sotana - 0, 1, 10
Tajan - 0, 3, 30
Teba - 1, 1, -20
Teflor - 0, 2, 15
Thagden - 1, 1, -20
Thalash - 1, 2, -10
Tkik - 0, 2, 20
Turgy - 0, 1, 10
Vagag - 0, 1, 10
Yog - 0, 1, 10


If I listed your alt twice lemme know in-game to fix this list.
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Postby Ifin » Tue Oct 17, 2006 7:32 pm

List of 1st round winners each trip

8/26 Winners:
Thagden - Sleeves
Ishiras - Dagger
Pid - Bracelet
Pune - Amulet
Deabnue - B&W Robes, Lopi - Combat Boots

10/7 Winners:
Hagah - Sleeves
Rikiv - Dagger
Duna - Amulet
Ifin - Bracelet

9/8 Group:
Thalash - dagger
Deltin - bracelet
Teba - amulet
Hagah/Rulk - undeterminable - sleeves

9/1 Winners:
Ifin - Amulet
Imis - Bracelet
Nekler - Dagger
Osheara - Sleeves

8/12 Trip:
Pril - Diamond Ring
Ghimok - amulet
Nekler - bracelet
Menliros - dagger
Drahken/Teflor/Sarli/Malydryn - undeterminable - sleeves?
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Postby Latreg » Tue Oct 17, 2006 8:32 pm

I won bracelet hrm 3 or 4 trips ago I think, maybe it was before that I forget.

I'd like to go this saturday but at 5pm I turn into a pumpkin, we're having a combined b-day party for both the boys, and I'm sure my wife would kill me if I spent it on the computer. If you could change the start time to earlier.....if not I'll help out with what I can if you need me. Cleric or bard (no res recovery yet).
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Postby Duna » Tue Oct 17, 2006 9:14 pm

bah you couldn't have waited til next weekend huh?
I'd go.. but I've got kids this weekend :( and they don't take kindly to mom being stuck to the mud all weekend :P

sounds fun though.. sigh.
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Postby Drogga » Wed Oct 18, 2006 5:02 am

Havent won anythin from your BC run

Grylor/Redara

btw... this is not a whining :>
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Postby Minofagal » Thu Oct 19, 2006 1:46 pm

i didn't win either, but still had fun :)




btw are you still panning on going on the 21st? i'd love to come
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Postby Disoputlip » Fri Oct 20, 2006 12:06 pm

I won a beautifully enscribed turquoise ring in 2nd round bid, so guess that also makes me one of those with no wins.
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Postby Ifin » Sun Nov 12, 2006 1:32 pm

Bump for Fri 11/17 8 PM EST
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Postby Naled » Sun Nov 12, 2006 4:16 pm

Make it saturday so I can come.
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Postby Ambar » Mon Nov 13, 2006 1:39 am

I won robes as Alieshi on one of these runs .. the same run we did BC then IC2 ..
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Postby Latreg » Mon Nov 13, 2006 12:49 pm

I'll go as either Dinep or Deltin which ever.
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Postby Minofagal » Mon Nov 13, 2006 6:27 pm

Count me in to chant :D
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Postby malakwee » Tue Nov 14, 2006 1:46 pm

count me in if am needed as nimas namas or asamar
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Postby Ifin » Sun Dec 10, 2006 11:19 pm

Bump
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Postby Latreg » Mon Dec 11, 2006 2:32 pm

Latreg wrote:I'll go as either Dinep or Deltin which ever.



me, pick me, pick me!
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Postby Ifin » Thu Dec 14, 2006 11:23 pm

Group finished for this Sat. run

For those interested but not able to come might do another run or two since it's break time.

For Fri. since it seemed some quality people said would also be available if people log on might try a run at Chp if nothing else is happening.

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