Tinkers bag

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Tinkers bag

Postby Thrand » Mon Jul 21, 2008 2:45 pm

You feel informed:
Name 'a bottomless bag of the Tinkers'
Keyword 'bag bottomless tinker tinkers', Item type: CONTAINER
Item can be worn on: ABOUT HOLD
Item will give you following abilities: NOBITS
Item is: MAGIC NOBURN NOBITS
Weight: 0, Value: 7213492
Can affect you as :
Affects : DEX By 4
Affects : SV_SPELL By -1

Hi can you tell me if this bag is supposed to
grant you the dex an spell save if you hold it?
It id 's as either a hold or wear item, yet when you hold it you dont get the
stats.

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Re: Tinkers bag

Postby Lilira » Tue Jul 22, 2008 10:37 pm

;-)

If you're holding a bag of groceries and something is thrown at you, its hard to be dexterous.
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Re: Tinkers bag

Postby Thrand » Tue Jul 22, 2008 11:23 pm

'If you're holding a bag of groceries and something is thrown at you, its hard to be dexterous.'

Thanks

Now if you are implying that such held items shouldnt have stats
then convince the area staff to make this item unholdable,
otherwise it is holdable and has stats so they should apply.

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Re: Tinkers bag

Postby Tasan » Wed Jul 23, 2008 2:52 am

Containers when held are most likely supposed to be statless, much like other wearable items that you can also hold.
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Re: Tinkers bag

Postby spunionring » Wed Jul 23, 2008 3:44 am

Tasan wrote:Containers when held are most likely supposed to be statless, much like other wearable items that you can also hold.


There are other containers that have stats and can be held to receive their benefits. Can check for some examples if needed.

The original post says that the item id's with stats but they arent being received when held or worn about? I get that right? that sounds like a bug to me.
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Re: Tinkers bag

Postby Adriorn Darkcloak » Wed Jul 23, 2008 5:51 am

It's a bug, and has been addressed by Dugmaren. It needs to be fixed from a coding standpoint and Eili has been notified. Same thing happens with other held items with stats, like smoke pocket. Doesn't happen with hot pockets though.
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Re: Tinkers bag

Postby Klandal » Wed Jul 23, 2008 6:41 am

So what you're saying is... The situation has been handled...
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Re: Tinkers bag

Postby shalath » Wed Jul 23, 2008 9:13 am

Klandal wrote:So what you're saying is... The situation has been handled...


...which reminds me of a certain god-damn slippery mage...

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Re: Tinkers bag

Postby Disoputlip » Wed Jul 23, 2008 8:40 pm

If this thing is fixed it will generate some unforseen effects, just so you know it.

Let us say you have a hat, and by mistake someone has given it the hold flag, then said hat will also generate effects when hold.

On the top of my head i can only remember war gong from bt that will cause ill effect to players if this is fixed, but there may be more.
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Re: Tinkers bag

Postby Eilistraee » Sun Jul 27, 2008 8:27 pm

I've done some digging, and reached the following conclusion. For an item that can be held as well as worn elsewhere, you must be wearing the item to gain the benefit of its stats and affects. Only when an item is set to only be able to be held will it convey its affects upon possessor.

In the case of both the tinker bag and the writhing pocket, the only benefit to be gained by holding it is the weight reduction on your load, if they happen to be that full.
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Re: Tinkers bag

Postby Thrand » Mon Jul 28, 2008 7:37 pm

Thanks for looking into this.

I don't know about everyone else but I find the
wearability of the bag to be a drawback not
a plus, as you have to remove it when you
wear all after ress or looting.

Since there is huge bug in the code that prevents
items from conveying stats held if they are also able to
be worn. Please make this item held only.

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Re: Tinkers bag

Postby ssar » Thu Jul 31, 2008 1:45 pm

Thrand wrote: I find the
wearability of the bag to be a drawback not
a plus,


Please make this item held only.

Lopi


Agree, please remove the wearability of this bag and other similar bags.
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