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MOB SIZE ISSUES

Postby Shevarash » Tue Nov 10, 2009 5:53 am

Please post any mobs you see that appear to have incorrect sizes in this thread. Please provide as much detail as possible - the exact name of the mob in addition to the zone you found them in would be ideal. Thanks in advance for your help!
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Re: MOB SIZE ISSUES

Postby Kindi » Tue Nov 10, 2009 1:24 pm

pulled from the game update thread

Wrong size: An orc battlechanter, world load, showed up as size (None)

Wrong size: A huge tundra yeti, on Ten Towns trail, showed up as (Medium)

Wrong size: The ground hog, north of BG, showed up as (Medium)

Wrong size: An ENORMOUS cave worm, in CM, showed up as (Medium)

Wrong size?: earth elementals are now size (Medium) where previously they were able to bash some large mobs like demons.

Wrong size?: Demons are now size (Medium) as well? Lili said they are anyway and I don't know where to look to check.
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Re: MOB SIZE ISSUES

Postby Diel » Tue Nov 10, 2009 4:38 pm

Character attributes for Gargar
Level: 50 Race: Troll Class: Warrior
Age: 22 yrs / 9 mths Size: Small

ogres in faang appear to be medium. I can bodyslam them but not headbutt :P
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Re: MOB SIZE ISSUES

Postby Diel » Tue Nov 10, 2009 6:55 pm

A GIGANTIC beetle has a few scratches. (None)
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Re: MOB SIZE ISSUES

Postby Diel » Tue Nov 10, 2009 7:08 pm

A gigantic black widow spider has a few scratches. (Fine)
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Re: MOB SIZE ISSUES

Postby Thrand » Tue Nov 10, 2009 7:09 pm

A small black dragonet flutters about here.
Thorn is in excellent condition. (Gargantuan)

A silvery wisp is in excellent condition. (Medium)

Faelarae Willowsong is in excellent condition. (Small)

An atomie is in excellent condition. (Small)

A sprite is in excellent condition. (Small)

A grig is in excellent condition. (Small)

The robin is in excellent condition. (Medium)

a small rat is in excellent condition. (Large)

a bluebird is in excellent condition. (Medium)

A snapdragon is in excellent condition. (Huge)

A scruffy wood rat is in excellent condition. (Medium)

A grey squirrel is in excellent condition. (Medium)

A faerie guard of the Seelie Court is in excellent condition. (Small)

The faerie sage, Tatterfoal is in excellent condition. (Medium)

An eagle is in excellent condition. (Medium)

a grig is in excellent condition. (Small)

a woodpecker is in excellent condition. (Medium)

A petite faerie is in excellent condition. (Small)

a finch is in excellent condition. (Medium)

A pipe playing satyr is in excellent condition. (Small)
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Re: MOB SIZE ISSUES

Postby Shevarash » Tue Nov 10, 2009 7:40 pm

Thanks guys. One thing though - can you please try to include the zone when it's a more generic sounding mob? Thanks!
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Re: MOB SIZE ISSUES

Postby Kindi » Tue Nov 10, 2009 9:32 pm

Bug: earth elementals have no hands/arms and can't wear shields or wield weapons any more.
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Re: MOB SIZE ISSUES

Postby Kindi » Wed Nov 11, 2009 2:06 am

a spirit scorpion, silverymoon, is stunnable so apparently not spirit race?
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Re: MOB SIZE ISSUES

Postby Kindi » Wed Nov 11, 2009 3:07 am

a roc, muspelheim, is (medium) should probably be bigger
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Re: MOB SIZE ISSUES

Postby Kindi » Wed Nov 11, 2009 3:40 am

The emissary of Loki, muspelheim, is now (medium) and bashable when before he was a real pita
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Re: MOB SIZE ISSUES

Postby Botef » Fri Nov 13, 2009 5:21 pm

A troglodyte warrior is in excellent condition. (None)
A troglodyte warrior misses you with his undefined.

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Re: MOB SIZE ISSUES

Postby Kindi » Fri Nov 13, 2009 8:39 pm

Bug: Illithid have mouths now, so they can use 'say' instead of 'project', and can't talk in silence any more
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Re: MOB SIZE ISSUES

Postby Kindi » Fri Nov 13, 2009 10:24 pm

The chaos mobs on demi-plane show up as red shapes but they didn't used to
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Re: MOB SIZE ISSUES

Postby Kindi » Fri Nov 13, 2009 10:25 pm

Forka, the demon guy in greycloak, is (medium), bashable and super easy
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Re: MOB SIZE ISSUES

Postby Kindi » Fri Nov 13, 2009 11:35 pm

Undead mobs in Cave City like ghast/ghoul/knight are now stunnable when they weren't before
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Re: MOB SIZE ISSUES

Postby Kindi » Fri Nov 13, 2009 11:35 pm

Suggestion: rename thread to 'mob race issues' or 'race code issues' or 'mob issues' since a lot more looks different than just size
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Re: MOB SIZE ISSUES

Postby Kindi » Sat Nov 14, 2009 12:49 am

Quturac, the skeletal dragon, in cc is just a plain 'dragon' and not undead
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Re: MOB SIZE ISSUES

Postby Kindi » Sat Nov 14, 2009 2:23 am

Manscorpions are size (large) and bashable now when they weren't before. plz see suggestion in other feedback thread for density change. could also be just morphology like their body isn't made for that type of attack to work.
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Re: MOB SIZE ISSUES

Postby Kindi » Sat Nov 14, 2009 2:39 am

treants also lacking arms so no more shields
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Re: MOB SIZE ISSUES

Postby Kegor » Sat Nov 14, 2009 10:26 pm

Kindi wrote:Manscorpions are size (large) and bashable now when they weren't before. plz see suggestion in other feedback thread for density change. could also be just morphology like their body isn't made for that type of attack to work.


Manscorpions are large sized ("SIZE: L (6' tall, 4' long plus 10' tail) " -2nd Edition Monster Manual) and were bashable before changes.

Weather or not they should be bashable, I don't know and I am not real concerned about it.
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Re: MOB SIZE ISSUES

Postby Shevarash » Sun Nov 15, 2009 12:43 am

They've always been bashable - they have a special proc that gives them a chance to avoid bashes though.
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Re: MOB SIZE ISSUES

Postby Kindi » Sun Nov 15, 2009 2:22 pm

Nymantar GCC: 'A mountain goat prowls in from above.'

he said it was race 'canine'
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Re: MOB SIZE ISSUES

Postby Ardessa Moonblade » Mon Nov 16, 2009 11:40 pm

Ghore boas and pythons in Alligator area:

A huge boa constrictor slowly slithers along.

This boa constictor is huge, 30 feet long and several feet in circumfrence.
A huge boa constrictor is in excellent condition. (Small)


A huge python is here, trying to hide.

This is a huge python, must be 20 feet in length. It looks as if it could take
on even the largest troll.
A huge python is in excellent condition. (Small)

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Re: MOB SIZE ISSUES

Postby Kindi » Mon Nov 16, 2009 11:42 pm

Balrogs, balors, various demons/devils in the new Troll King area are mostly (Medium) and bashable, even when shortdesc says they're 10 times the size of a normal person
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Re: MOB SIZE ISSUES

Postby mynazzaraxxsyn » Wed Nov 18, 2009 6:17 pm

All the orcs during Forka are size none.
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Re: MOB SIZE ISSUES

Postby Gukov » Thu Nov 19, 2009 2:41 pm

Various large mobs in ice crag 2 are bashable... like ice golem and ice para-elemental... I forgot to log it but basically all the big mobs except presumably dragons on the grid with the 4 portals.
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Re: MOB SIZE ISSUES

Postby Kindi » Thu Nov 19, 2009 11:40 pm

All of the beholders in Hulburg, such as the Death Tyrant, are size (Medium) and bashable
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Re: MOB SIZE ISSUES

Postby Yayaril » Sat Nov 21, 2009 7:56 am

Yayaril's codpiece (small)


This is obviously wrong.
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Re: MOB SIZE ISSUES

Postby Thilindel » Sat Nov 21, 2009 7:05 pm

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Re: MOB SIZE ISSUES

Postby Kindi » Sun Nov 22, 2009 3:41 pm

Marilith daemons, succubus, Juiblex, Demogorgon, etc on Astral Plane are (Medium) sized and have no Magic Resistance
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Re: MOB SIZE ISSUES

Postby Kindi » Mon Nov 23, 2009 2:28 am

an outraged render, tarsellian forest, i think doesn't have MR any more? he died really really fast compared to before and is now size (Medium)
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Re: MOB SIZE ISSUES

Postby Kindi » Wed Nov 25, 2009 4:23 am

a TITANIC tentacled monstrosity, in temple of twisted flesh, is (Medium) and bashable

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Re: MOB SIZE ISSUES

Postby Kindi » Wed Nov 25, 2009 4:46 am

an imprisoned demon, in temple of twisted flesh, is (Medium)
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Re: MOB SIZE ISSUES

Postby ssar » Wed Nov 25, 2009 11:11 am

I am finding the reduced range of head-buttable mobs to be a little annoying, even having only examined it vs a relatively small range of mobs and pchar race/mob combos.

Hopefully this is not too pronounced overall, such that it renders the previously quite good headbutt skill much less useful.
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Re: MOB SIZE ISSUES

Postby Kindi » Mon Nov 30, 2009 4:11 am

headbutt is having problems hitting a lot of mobs it used to be able to
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Re: MOB SIZE ISSUES

Postby Kindi » Mon Nov 30, 2009 4:11 am

the sandstorm beast, manscorpions, is bashable
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Re: MOB SIZE ISSUES

Postby Dareful » Mon Nov 30, 2009 8:47 pm

Cursed cemetary:

A tiny tree root: Huge
A tiny blackened tree: Huge

Summoned Mount:
a heavy warhorse: (none?)

Sidenote with mounts: does mob size with the new code have any affect on 'charging' mobs, or being 'bashed' while mounted, vs. pure character size? (obviously with a size: none, it probably doesn't currently... but should it?)
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Re: MOB SIZE ISSUES

Postby Delmair Aamoren » Mon Dec 14, 2009 10:15 pm

Any chance we could address mount size issues? as it stands my lard human ass seems to be impacting the carrying capacity of my mount. Gets tired faster than a pack a day smoker with COPD. For an example, it gets tired walking from VT to the BG ferry.

Additionally, they're subject to trip currently, something that they weren't susceptable to before the size changes.


Lastly, can we look at their resistances vs area spells/breath weapons? i spend a pretty significant amount of time in a zone healing up my 2k hp horse. Either that or making heal mount the equivalent of 2-3x fheals. Thanks.

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Re: MOB SIZE ISSUES

Postby Disoputlip » Sat Jan 09, 2010 4:52 pm

crystal elementals in crystal cave have description like:

"This looks like a gigantic, ten foot tall crystal"

and are size medium
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Re: MOB SIZE ISSUES

Postby Gormal » Thu Nov 18, 2010 10:30 pm

Magma plane is all sorts of bashable nonsense. Earth elementals should be bumped up so they can bash demons and such again while water elementals stay sized to bash humanoids. Embodiments and cleric spells no longer affect size.
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Re: MOB SIZE ISSUES

Postby Dalar » Thu Nov 18, 2010 11:41 pm

When I look at Gormal it says "Huge bulge in pants"

but size is small.
It will be fixed in Toril 2.0.
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Re: MOB SIZE ISSUES

Postby Gormal » Thu Nov 18, 2010 11:50 pm

Asian where it counts:(

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