Invokers should get Prism

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Should invokers get Prism

Poll ended at Tue Oct 28, 2003 12:24 am

yes
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no
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Total votes: 38
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Invokers should get Prism

Postby Ashod » Sat Oct 18, 2003 12:24 am

Prism is an invocation spell...

and why don't invokers have it?

why not give up power word stun, for prism..
no one uses power word stun anyway...
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Re: Invokers should get Prism

Postby irta » Sat Oct 18, 2003 1:32 am

Ashod wrote:Prism is an invocation spell...

and why don't invokers have it?

why not give up power word stun, for prism..
no one uses power word stun anyway...


I agree completely. Of course, inferno is an elemental spell so I'll take that. ;)

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Postby Ambar » Sat Oct 18, 2003 1:51 am

when prims is used properly it is a hella mighty spell ... why not give another powerful spell to the invoker ....


o my vote would be no!!!
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Postby Yayaril » Sat Oct 18, 2003 2:33 am

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Postby Thilindel » Sat Oct 18, 2003 3:23 am

I definitely don't see why not, especially since it's invocation. I'd rather them get either stinking or cloudkill!
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Postby Ashod » Sat Oct 18, 2003 8:42 am

Elementalist... I love elementalist whining about not have
enough power.. but can solo lvl 55 mobs.. and no other class can..

Irta your very mistaken.. try help inferno..

Area of effect: Room
Aggressive: Yes
Cumulative: No
Duration: Instantaneous
Class/Circle: Invoker 10th
Type of spell: Invocation


bah another grumpy shaman..:P

but truely... compared to other mage classes.. invokers are weak..
they are only good in groups.. prism would just make them better
and being a 7th lvl spell it would be a feedback spell for invokers..
so it isn't like 3 invokers would be all casting it.

I for one am tired of watching shaman's get paralized all the time from mob prism.. i was just hoping that giving prism to invokers, that we
might see more prisms going off beside from mobs.. I would think shaman
would back up this idea.. but i think they are still mad at the world cause they got nerfed so bad. *whistle*
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Postby Ambar » Sat Oct 18, 2003 11:22 am

as a shaman , a enchanter, AND an elementalist

i still say

NO :)


let chanters have their prism fun, will ya???


and just cause it's invocation type spell doesn't mean invokers HAVE to have it!
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Postby Lenefir » Sat Oct 18, 2003 12:24 pm

5 of the 8 possible rays are enchantment in nature, and the damage of the 3 last rays are minor compared to any other high level damage spell.

And as already said, just because it says it's an invocation spell, doesn't mean you HAVE to have it. If it was like that, why not turn it on the head and ask why you should have enchantment spells? Besides, I haven't seen any posting about invokers wanting prismatic spray before now, long after the mobs actually begun casting it, and the only reason I can see for that is because it causes a lot more confusion that just plain damage does.

Anyway, if invokers were to get this, they would suddenly have indirect access to blind and feeblemind...

Oh, and I have seen invokers use power word stun quite often in the arena :P
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Postby Cirath » Sat Oct 18, 2003 1:18 pm

Hey! What about holy word? It's and invocation spell!

*duck*
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Postby Azenilsee » Sat Oct 18, 2003 2:14 pm

Lenefir wrote: they would suddenly have indirect access to blind


We have this already, via sandblast and clouds no?
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Postby Dalar » Sat Oct 18, 2003 3:10 pm

u forgot a stfu option
It will be fixed in Toril 2.0.
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Postby Salen » Sat Oct 18, 2003 6:36 pm

It wouldn't be giving invokers a spell, it would be giving a spell BACK to invokers, no?
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Postby rylan » Sat Oct 18, 2003 8:17 pm

Hey cirath, wouldn't that be considered a downgrade to invokers if they got that spell? :P
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Postby moritheil » Sun Oct 19, 2003 3:44 pm

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Postby Caedym » Mon Oct 20, 2003 5:10 pm

Curious.

-In SC what if the faeries were flagged as invokers and this spell was given to invokers. Would the faeries kill themselves with feedback?

-If this was 7th circle and caused a feedback problem for invokers, why would they bother to cast it in group zone situations? What spell do invokers normally cast now in 7th circle (chain lightning?)? Would it be worth the risk of possible feedback to cast prism instead? Or would it be better to just let the !invoker classes who have prism to spam it without worry of feedback? Probably would be worth it. Chain Lightning isn't really worth a hill of beens when they can casting blazing which can blind, right?

-What if instead of 7th, it was 8th, so it replaced incendiary cloud. Which is a casted damage spell in zones, right? Then it would be a real trade off. Or maybe even if prism for invokers was 9th, and they can either cast swarm or prism. One or the other. How many leaders are going to want the reduced damage in a big fight for the chance at side effects from prism?

I think Invokers should get prism, but not the way it is or 7th circle. It should instead take up one of their 8th or higher circle slots. Make them give up something for this added spell. They can already cast spells that simulate almost all the effects prism does already, right? It's not like they are getting something new, it's more like they'd be given a handicapped optional spell.

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Postby rylan » Tue Oct 21, 2003 12:20 pm

I know the solution... change pris to spellcast enchantment :P
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Postby Zoldren » Tue Oct 21, 2003 1:12 pm

vokers are fine, probably the only mage class that is as close to "balanced" as you can get

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