Half-Elf Rogues!

[Kaede]

This was brought up a while ago, but why not allow half-elves to be rogues too? As outcasts of human and elven societies, it would make perfect sense that they could be rogues. Right now they are lumped in with barbarians, ogres, trolls, and illithids as the only races that cannot be rogues... this seems sorta odd!

[Sesexe]

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[Thilindel]

smarter, more charisma, infra...who cares tho! Make a troll rogue avail too :( there are mob ones in the game. *pout*

[Thilindel]

After further thought, who gives a rat's ass that nobody would pick human for rogue? There are human warriors in the game. Why? Who the hell would want one over a barb or dorf? Same situation. Not only are same or stronger in all warrior attributes (you can't argue dwarf agi because they can hit 70 ac as does human. It just takes 2 max_agi's to hit 62 ac vs. human only needing one) they both get innates that beat the snot outta humans imho. And throw in troll rogues while you're at it! First to backstab a F/S'd mob has to post it tho! :P

[Kaede]

Half-elves may make slightly better rogues than humans due to one extra agility notch and infravision (same dexterity, ever so slightly less strength and constitution, slightly more intelligence), but then look at dwarves.

Mountain dwarves get a lot more strength (and even easier to get max_strength), constitution, and the infravision innate over humans while sharing pretty much the same agility and dexterity.

Not saying downgrade dwarves, just saying half-elves would just be another fun option in my opinion. :)

[Gurns]

And of course, it's weird that half-elves can be bards
/rant
The only true bard race, all others are imposters! Upstarts! They should be wiped from the face of the world!
/rant off
and bards are a rogue sub-class, and the last set of changes to bards (or the one before that?) made them more like rogues.