Birile wrote:If you read closely, you would see that the reason I argued that invoker procs should be taken out is that their magic damage is so high in comparison to other classes. Sesexe argued that weapons procced so much more than invoker spell procs did without taking into account the amount of damage that invoker spells do along with the procs. It's folly to say that invoker procs should be left in simply by using the argument that weapons proc more during fights without taking into account the disparity in the damage dealt as well.
A waste of time to compare the two, then? Hardly.
OK Birile,
As of now and taking everything said and discussed here, you're argument has now become: Beceause Invokers do so much more damage then melee, their few procs that are utterly undependable as compared to melee, (making them nothing more then trinkets of amusement to a boring class so that it isn't so static) should be removed and given to Illusionists and Psionics BECAUSE they deal with the mind even though Invoker procs, or spells, have nothing to do with mind attacks.
In other words:
-Invokers do more damage then melee.
-Melee proc more often then Invokers and have far more diverse procs with greater frequency.
-Invokers have procs that have nothing to do with mind attacks.
-Illusionists and Psionics deal with mind attacks.
-Illusionists and Psionics should have the Invoker procs instead.
....I'm at a loss.
If you want to see Illusionists and Psionics get procs added to their spells/abilities (which sounds like an interesting idea), then perhaps you should be suggesting just that very thing?
Instead you appear to be trying to justify your ideas by tearing down another class, even one you don't play. That's like me suggesting new paladin ideas by taking them directly from bards, and saying my reasoning is because elementalists have more embodiments that any other class.
PS. I was comparing proc ratio's between an Invoker and melee. I wasn't the one who wanted to compare damage output between the two. That's your deal, and I still don't understand why you keep wanting to mention it or include it when Invoker procs don't do damage or cause damage related effects atm.