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all muspelheim items

Postby Todrael » Thu Nov 06, 2003 5:18 pm

I would like to request an independent audit of every item in Muspelheim. It is very clear to me and many others that this zone is the one that stands above the rest when it comes to gripes about the eq changes in general. Mainly due to upgrades. Yes, people are complaining about upgrades, so when they do that, I should think it's an indicator to stand and take a second look at something.

This zone angers me beyond belief. And it does for many others as well.
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Postby Cyric » Thu Nov 06, 2003 5:19 pm

I have complete faith in Dugmaren's system, and I have absolutely no suspiction that he did or would favor his own zones. That's just silly.

To soothe the masses, however, I will go over the files and post my findings here shortly.
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Postby belleshel » Thu Nov 06, 2003 5:21 pm

I would like to request a new Cyric....this one seems to be far too understanding and reasonable... It's confusing..;)
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Postby Shuanerst » Thu Nov 06, 2003 5:39 pm

I don't know enough about the high end zones to make reasonible comments about them. I do however know that Todrael does. I also know that he's not whining about the downgrades, but rather than musp's reward seems to high.

Maybe mistakes in the calculations weren't made, but for Todrael to be so angered means that mistakes were made. Maybe it's systemic, maybe not.

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[post changed so that I don't split Tod's thread, comments about exponential hp moved to a different thread]
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Postby Ruxur » Thu Nov 06, 2003 6:16 pm

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Postby Todrael » Thu Nov 06, 2003 6:25 pm

I think whoever looked over BC/Avernus should be the one to look over Muspelheim.
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Postby Nokie » Thu Nov 06, 2003 6:27 pm

Todrael wrote:I think whoever looked over BC/Avernus should be the one to look over Muspelheim.


Not the same person/people looked at all of the zones? Eeeek! That explains a lot I guess :)
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Postby belleshel » Thu Nov 06, 2003 7:24 pm

I'm pretty sure Munchkin the God of Oversight did Muspel...
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Postby kiryan » Thu Nov 06, 2003 7:31 pm

I agree with Tod on both counts.

Look at musphelim again.

Have the same person who raped BC rape Musphelim.

Every single piece of great eq now seems to come from Musphelim or a musphelim quest.
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Postby Dalar » Thu Nov 06, 2003 8:43 pm

Who else sees total bias in the way this game is changing? Hardcore players are kicked in the nuts RPers are rewarded with things hardcore players can't get. Also, look at the stats on some of these items. I'm sure half of us could have seen these complaints coming if we saw these changes before they went live. For the love of god, talk to some highly skilled players on both sides before you do changes like this so I don't have to hear people piss and moan about changes. And no I'm not suggesting myself.
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Postby Gura » Thu Nov 06, 2003 8:44 pm

gonna give you an amen dalar
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Postby Oosh » Thu Nov 06, 2003 8:48 pm

Speaking of getting kicked in the nuts...

Like the simple fact that most of us, still have to wear +stat (str/agi/dex/con,etc) gear because of the previous rolling system change wasn't enough...
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Postby belleshel » Thu Nov 06, 2003 8:51 pm

Dalar wrote:For the love of god, talk to some highly skilled players on both sides before you do changes like this so I don't have to hear people piss and moan about changes. And no I'm not suggesting myself.


For Goodies I nominate Lilithelle and Sylvos, 2 people that put the mud way before personal ambitions/items;)
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Postby Jegzed » Thu Nov 06, 2003 9:38 pm

Muspel items are just silly..

Touk's a nice chap, but his zone is now sillily inbalanced compared to anythign else.
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Re: ...

Postby Thilindel » Thu Nov 06, 2003 10:36 pm

Oosh wrote:Speaking of getting kicked in the nuts...

Like the simple fact that most of us, still have to wear +stat (str/agi/dex/con,etc) gear because of the previous rolling system change wasn't enough...


That's why I post the idea about paying guildmaster but some ogre said 'Hell no!' :P
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Postby Maedor » Thu Nov 06, 2003 10:56 pm

Jegzed wrote:sillily


Is that a word? If not, it should be.
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Postby Arilin Nydelahar » Thu Nov 06, 2003 11:16 pm

Maedor wrote:
Jegzed wrote:sillily


Is that a word? If not, it should be.


He's a swede. It's expected. :(
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Postby Dlur » Thu Nov 06, 2003 11:20 pm

Maedor wrote:
Jegzed wrote:sillily


Is that a word? If not, it should be.


The english language have that word in it? I don't think it have that word. *poke*
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Postby Ambar » Thu Nov 06, 2003 11:46 pm

Thilindel wrote:That's why I post the idea about paying guildmaster but some ogre said 'Hell no!' :P



and i still say hell no :P

you'd have uber stated dorks running over the mud :P just cause they are the fastest ninja looters .. thil this has NOTHING to do with that at ALL
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Postby Lilithelle » Fri Nov 07, 2003 12:56 am

I like Dugmaren, he's a good guy, always there to help people in mortal form for CRs and the like. Muspel eq probably is a bit too good, as much as i love doing the zone for it! If there was bias I'm sure it was subconcious. Might have been difficulty in estimating how many mobs you have to kill in there to get the eq since they wander come to combat etc, even with folding he probably had to estimate.
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