Kazgoroth quest reward items

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Kazgoroth quest reward items

Postby Dalar » Tue Nov 18, 2003 10:02 pm

The quest is pretty worthless after eq changes imho.

Idea for shield:
ac 15 -5 sv para 3 max agi missile shield wt 50

Idea for armor:
ac 90 50 hp -5 sv para. prot acid/lightning

My main gripe about the current stats is that +stats suck on any high level item, svbr is so common now, the prots are so common, and if someone wanted damroll they wouldn't wear wholebody equipment.
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Postby Waelos » Tue Nov 18, 2003 10:48 pm

what about some love for the sword?!

*poke*
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Postby Gura » Tue Nov 18, 2003 11:01 pm

go do spob 20x maybe you'll get an axe
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Postby Waelos » Wed Nov 19, 2003 2:29 am

Errr. . . I HAVE done SpOB 20+ times and all I have to show for those trips are three craptastic shields!


*whine*

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Postby Stamm » Wed Nov 19, 2003 11:32 pm

Chance of getting the axe is one in sixty for each run.
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Postby Dalar » Thu Nov 20, 2003 12:19 am

actually stamm it's alot lower than that. 1/60 is very flattering
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Postby rylan » Thu Nov 20, 2003 12:46 am

1/15 chance of winning heart if bid to everyone, and then 1/4 chance of heart becoming axe? = 1/60
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Postby Klandal » Thu Nov 20, 2003 12:56 am

1/4 for the axe from heart warrior items is accurate if they're all weighted the same.

1/15 is only true if there is a single warrior class in the SPOB group, which I highly doubt.
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Postby Malia » Thu Nov 20, 2003 3:14 am

My guess is, since there is at least 5 gold mage items, there are at least 5 gold warrior items, so this 1/4 chance isnt right, plus there are 6 large and 6 cracked i think so i would guess your odds are more like 1/6 once you win the heart.
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Postby Stamm » Thu Nov 20, 2003 4:36 am

I meant the chance of _you_ getting the axe.

Assuming they are weighted the same...

Then 1/15 of you winning the heart. (If you don't win the heart then you cannot possibly get the axe regardless of how many warriors there are.

1/4 of the heart being the axe (again assuming)

=1/60

Oh, not that I'm justifying the Spob axe.

I don't think Spob should have weapons (as top rewards), I think weapons that come from Epic quests should be the best in the game, and a Spob top reward should be something good... it can't be good if Epic quest stuff is miles better, so they shouldn't be weapons. I'd say a weapon is much more important than just any slot.
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Postby Dalar » Thu Nov 20, 2003 6:08 am

Just trust me stamm, it's not 1/60 and it's way more complicated that just 1/15 x 1/4. And no i'm not going to elaborate and I'm only making a very educated guess.
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Postby Stamm » Thu Nov 20, 2003 2:02 pm

I know where you're going with this Dalar, well I think anyway. If it's the same theory I think it is :) But until it's actually concrete that it works, my 1/60 seems to be about right.

Anyway, what we can do is agree it's not easy to get the item you want from Spob, we're waaaay off the topic here.

So... Kazgaroth rewards? I think it's a victim of te current equipment guidelines that really don't suit multiple rewards for a quest due to diminishing returns.
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Postby Dalar » Thu Nov 20, 2003 3:26 pm

Stamm wrote:I know where you're going with this Dalar, well I think anyway. If it's the same theory I think it is :) But until it's actually concrete that it works, my 1/60 seems to be about right.

Anyway, what we can do is agree it's not easy to get the item you want from Spob, we're waaaay off the topic here.

So... Kazgaroth rewards? I think it's a victim of te current equipment guidelines that really don't suit multiple rewards for a quest due to diminishing returns.

where do you even get 1/4 from? there are 5 heart items.
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Postby Waelos » Thu Nov 20, 2003 7:15 pm

anyone have any clue what the 5th warrior heart item is?
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Postby Yasden » Thu Nov 20, 2003 7:42 pm

Agree with Waelos on the sword. The damage on the proc is...minimal. I hit a jot troll with the proc on combat initiation and the next line it was regenned to full health. That's how minimal. >:)
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Postby Gura » Thu Nov 20, 2003 8:44 pm

hey dorkus...remember during chaos how fast u regenned with 10k or 15k hps?
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Postby Waelos » Thu Nov 20, 2003 11:10 pm

OK. . . here's a better example.

I proc'd on a MORTED character in the arena.

He didn't die.

So. . . the proc does about 1-8 hps damage.

Even multiply that by 10 because of an arena nerf and the proc only does 80 points.

It sucks =)

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Postby Gura » Fri Nov 21, 2003 12:48 am

yep that is better waelos...upgrade the proc!
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Postby Yasden » Fri Nov 21, 2003 8:31 pm

I wasn't playing during chaos, I was too busy fending off whiners for restrings and setbits *poke*. I'm fully aware of the regen rate, but less than a second after a proc is how fast the hps were recovered. I don't care if it's 100 hps a second that's still a low damage amount.

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