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so.... will we be able to scribe spells onto scrolls? my thoughts on this are
the chances are based on your level of scribe the scribed scrolls can fail due to errors in the scribe its self (based on level of scribe)
a level 50 mage should only be able to scribe up to a 5th circle spell.
im sure there will be more thoughts and that this wont happen but it would be nifty
the chances are based on your level of scribe the scribed scrolls can fail due to errors in the scribe its self (based on level of scribe)
a level 50 mage should only be able to scribe up to a 5th circle spell.
im sure there will be more thoughts and that this wont happen but it would be nifty
i dont know what your problem is, but i bet its hard to pronounce
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ohhh.. nice idea!!!
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You group-say 'my chars will carry the component on them if I can.'
Inama group-says 'hopefully they'll have some sort of volume discounts on ress items for people like you'
You group-say 'oh? Ya think? *giggle*'
Inama group-says 'they could at least implement frequent dier miles'
Suzalize group-says 'oh, eya's over weight i bet'
2.0 would actually make this idea a lot more viable than it would be right now. If you had to take ranks in a skill to even use the scrolls (chance of failure and all that), coupled with a steep price curve on spell circles, I could see even a dragonscales scroll quest. This would be a neat idea, kind of like recharging staves.
Scribe Scroll is a feat in D&D. In fact, it's a feat that all Wizards get as a free bonus feat at level 1. There is no chance of failure, but there is a material (read: gold) cost, and it costs experience points as well. The costs are very reasonable, but they add up if you like to carry a bag of holding full of scrolls around with you.
How this makes it into Toril 2.0 is anyone's guess.
How this makes it into Toril 2.0 is anyone's guess.
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What is not mentioned about scrolls - and wands for that matter, is that one must belong to a class that will, at some point gain the ability to use the spell contained within the item. Or have sufficient proficiency in the Use Magic Device skill.
How this makes it into Toril 2.0 will be revealed later.
How this makes it into Toril 2.0 will be revealed later.
Eilistraee
Eilistraee wrote:What is not mentioned about scrolls - and wands for that matter, is that one must belong to a class that will, at some point gain the ability to use the spell contained within the item. Or have sufficient proficiency in the Use Magic Device skill.
How this makes it into Toril 2.0 will be revealed later.
As a Bard, that makes me very happy. :)
Eilistraee wrote:What is not mentioned about scrolls - and wands for that matter, is that one must belong to a class that will, at some point gain the ability to use the spell contained within the item. Or have sufficient proficiency in the Use Magic Device skill.
How this makes it into Toril 2.0 will be revealed later.
True. In order for a Fighter to read a scroll of Stoneskin, he would have to burn most of his very-scarse skill points in Use Magic Device. And even if he did so, reading the scroll would not be a sure bet because of the UMD check involved.
It's easier for Bards (and Rogues), who have UMD as an in-class skill.
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Ragorn wrote:Eilistraee wrote:What is not mentioned about scrolls - and wands for that matter, is that one must belong to a class that will, at some point gain the ability to use the spell contained within the item. Or have sufficient proficiency in the Use Magic Device skill.
How this makes it into Toril 2.0 will be revealed later.
True. In order for a Fighter to read a scroll of Stoneskin, he would have to burn most of his very-scarse skill points in Use Magic Device. And even if he did so, reading the scroll would not be a sure bet because of the UMD check involved.
It's easier for Bards (and Rogues), who have UMD as an in-class skill.
Agreed. Barring a high-int, high-cha fighter, I'd say this is grotesquely cost-inefficient for higher level spells such as stoneskin. The failure rate will be considerable. For something cheaper like shield, it might conceivably be viable, but potions are still your best bet if UMD isn't a class skill.
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yes i was fully aware that one needs the UMD feat to use things i was not speaking from a warrior stand point at all. well i could have been but thats a silly warrior.
and way to bring back my recharable staff idea gormal :P
and way to bring back my recharable staff idea gormal :P
i dont know what your problem is, but i bet its hard to pronounce
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Cirath wrote:This begs the question of whether Use Magic Device will allow you to bypass the restrictions (alignment, race, and class) of equipment with a sufficient number of ranks. I'd love to see an evil bard swinging a holy avenger about.
By the skill description yes, though the actual DC of emulating a Holy Avenger the subject of some contention. It's high, whatever it is ;)
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Don't most weapons on that level have some sort of mundane intelligence that won't allow someone of an off alignment to wield them anyhow?
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Tasan wrote:Don't most weapons on that level have some sort of mundane intelligence that won't allow someone of an off alignment to wield them anyhow?
The Holy Avenger isn't an artifact weapon in D&D, or even an intelligent weapon. It's only usable by Paladins, but UMD lets you "trick" a magic item into think you're a class other than you are.
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Ragorn wrote:The Holy Avenger isn't an artifact weapon in D&D, or even an intelligent weapon. It's only usable by Paladins, but UMD lets you "trick" a magic item into think you're a class other than you are.
I am fairly sure it is usable by anyone of good alignment, but only a paladin recieves full benefits from it. Of course, I may be remembering 3.0 or even 2nd edition rules. Either way, I was simply using the holy avenger as an example of widly recognized aligned weapon.
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Ragorn wrote:Tasan wrote:Don't most weapons on that level have some sort of mundane intelligence that won't allow someone of an off alignment to wield them anyhow?
The Holy Avenger isn't an artifact weapon in D&D, or even an intelligent weapon. It's only usable by Paladins, but UMD lets you "trick" a magic item into think you're a class other than you are.
*cough* Actually, no it doesn't. UMD allows you to emulate a class feature, but not a class. You cannot fool a Holy Avenger into thinking you are a Paladin.
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I've mentioned this idea before, but once again for the sake of all that's better....
How about allowing us to rent, but specify what our character might be doing all the RP time that we're away? Ie, I'm renting for a while and want to make a scroll. If I come back too soon, online, then there might be a message that I'm only partially done and perhaps (an estimation, but describe it as such!) how much time I still would need for such an endeavor. Also, don't make it _too_ long in duration, so I could RP that I would finish up the current scroll or such before venturing out with a group....
Mirlantharn
How about allowing us to rent, but specify what our character might be doing all the RP time that we're away? Ie, I'm renting for a while and want to make a scroll. If I come back too soon, online, then there might be a message that I'm only partially done and perhaps (an estimation, but describe it as such!) how much time I still would need for such an endeavor. Also, don't make it _too_ long in duration, so I could RP that I would finish up the current scroll or such before venturing out with a group....
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