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Pathfinder RPG
Paizo Publishing is in the process of releasing an updated version of D&D 3.5 as an alternative to the new 4th edition rules coming out next month. They're currently doing an open alpha test of the game - you can download a pdf of their rulebook for free - and I have to say that it looks pretty nice. It's not finished by any means, but they've made some pretty interesting tweaks and come up with good solutions for old 3.x problems.
I'm curious if any of you are involved in this already, and what you think of their changes if so. Anyways, here's the link to read about it and download the pdf:
http://paizo.com/store/games/roleplayingGames/p/pathfinder/pathfinderRPG
I'm curious if any of you are involved in this already, and what you think of their changes if so. Anyways, here's the link to read about it and download the pdf:
http://paizo.com/store/games/roleplayingGames/p/pathfinder/pathfinderRPG
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I've been playing in their first adventure path, the Rise of the Runelords. We're considering adopting the Paizo system to participate in the test, but we haven't yet. I will say though that the adventure is very well done, and Paizo has an excellent track record for quality and accountability. They'd been publishing Dragon Magazine for WotC for several years, and put out some very fine content.
I do agree however that the 3.Paizo system looks pretty good at a quick overview glance.
I do agree however that the 3.Paizo system looks pretty good at a quick overview glance.
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Haven't tried it, but I did play through the first part of the 4.0 teaser adventure yesterday. I like the system... but it's not D&D. Maybe I said the same thing when 3.0 came out, I don't remember. But the game they've created, while fun and intuitive, completely abandons almost every convention that we've grown accustomed to in a Dungeons and Dragons product. It's very tabletop-MMO.
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That's the impression I've gotten as well, although I haven't be following 4.0 that closely since it's introduction. Despite it's flaws, there's an elegance to the foundation level mechanics of 3.x that's hard to beat. I'm glad Paizo is doing something with it.
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I have my 4.0 books on order and I can't wait to get them. What Wizards has done with D&D is phenomenal. I'm sure people have had their reservations about new editions coming out and I've heard a lot of what Ragorn said: declaring the new edition as not D&D. If you page back through the editions, you'll notice a lot of sweeping changes all the way back to its roots in Chainmail as a miniature battle game. Remember when they threw out Thac0? The saving throw system in 2nd edition was pretty bizarre: save versus Rod anybody? The 4th edition game does take a lot of ideas from MMO's, but then again, where did the MMO's get their roots to begin with?
I have my 4.0 books on order and I can't wait to get them. What Wizards has done with D&D is phenomenal. I'm sure people have had their reservations about new editions coming out and I've heard a lot of what Ragorn said: declaring the new edition as not D&D. If you page back through the editions, you'll notice a lot of sweeping changes all the way back to its roots in Chainmail as a miniature battle game. Remember when they threw out Thac0? The saving throw system in 2nd edition was pretty bizarre: save versus Rod anybody? The 4th edition game does take a lot of ideas from MMO's, but then again, where did the MMO's get their roots to begin with?
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Yayaril wrote: but then again, where did the MMO's get their roots to begin with?
MUDS? :P
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ok, so you said it so I have to ask. It's been on my attributes for an extremely long amount of time and I have completely never understood what it did. What the heck is save vs rod for? Like the way my imagination perceives it, a person with high svr is protected against staff attacks and other rod type weapons :P.
Ahha, I guess i never took the time to look up the help saving throws, but it seems i'm correct. That's really quite silly to be saved from a certain type of weapon because of a stat.
Ahha, I guess i never took the time to look up the help saving throws, but it seems i'm correct. That's really quite silly to be saved from a certain type of weapon because of a stat.
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I just like the new artwork they've been generating since 3.0, and how the book pages are designed to look like old book pages and stuff. I think that's neat! =)
Sorry, I don't really get into the rules systems anymore, I just use the content and imagery to feed fuel my flying bus to Imagination Land!
Sorry, I don't really get into the rules systems anymore, I just use the content and imagery to feed fuel my flying bus to Imagination Land!
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Just downloaded the beta book. I have to say this looks pretty sweet. Once I reconfig the battle system to restore THAC0 I might try to run something with it.
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Xisiqomelir wrote:Just downloaded the beta book. I have to say this looks pretty sweet. Once I reconfig the battle system to restore THAC0 I might try to run something with it.
Err... why would you want to restore THAC0?
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D&D 4.0 = WoW on Paper
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Sarvis wrote:Xisiqomelir wrote:Just downloaded the beta book. I have to say this looks pretty sweet. Once I reconfig the battle system to restore THAC0 I might try to run something with it.
Err... why would you want to restore THAC0?
Gotta keep it real.
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kwirl wrote:D&D 4.0 = WoW on Paper
No Daz, every character class having internal healing potion secreting organs is a Good Thing for the game!
It's also great that all the character classes now sound like City of Heroes archetypes. What the hell is a "Controller" and what does it have to do with the price of bat guano and sulphur?
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Xisiqomelir wrote:kwirl wrote:D&D 4.0 = WoW on Paper
No Daz, every character class having internal healing potion secreting organs is a Good Thing for the game!
It's also great that all the character classes now sound like City of Heroes archetypes. What the hell is a "Controller" and what does it have to do with the price of bat guano and sulphur?
The nice thing is that nobody gets stuck Playing The Cleric anymore. And on the DM side, encounters are about 500 times easier to build and balance with the new monster level/CR system. It's much easier to pit the party against a huge horde of slavering zombies without the monsters either rolling the party or being completely ineffective.
Like I said elsewhere... 4th edition doesn't feel like D&D, but it's still a fun engine.
But I HATE marking targets. That's ripped straight from Warcraft, and I can just see the big red floating arrow in my mind whenever someone says "and the target is marked."
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Ragorn wrote:Xisiqomelir wrote:kwirl wrote:D&D 4.0 = WoW on Paper
No Daz, every character class having internal healing potion secreting organs is a Good Thing for the game!
It's also great that all the character classes now sound like City of Heroes archetypes. What the hell is a "Controller" and what does it have to do with the price of bat guano and sulphur?
The nice thing is that nobody gets stuck Playing The Cleric anymore. And on the DM side, encounters are about 500 times easier to build and balance with the new monster level/CR system. It's much easier to pit the party against a huge horde of slavering zombies without the monsters either rolling the party or being completely ineffective.
Like I said elsewhere... 4th edition doesn't feel like D&D, but it's still a fun engine.
But I HATE marking targets. That's ripped straight from Warcraft, and I can just see the big red floating arrow in my mind whenever someone says "and the target is marked."
What's wrong with "Playing the Cleric?" It's better than "Playing the Ranger" aka "Sitting at 3w." ;)
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Ordered a feeler pack of stuff, including some random junk since I have no clue where all my tabletop gear went to. New DM screen, new dice, bunch of Pathfinder Chronicles books about Golarion, new gaming mat, character sheets and item cards. I bought the campaign setting from Amazon instead of Paizo though, since they had it for $30 instead of $50.
Going to have a solid read of everything then try and scrounge up players to start in Feb. If this turns out great, I'll have successfully avoided every WOT¢ "D&D" product!
Going to have a solid read of everything then try and scrounge up players to start in Feb. If this turns out great, I'll have successfully avoided every WOT¢ "D&D" product!
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You should have seen the 10% coupon for the holiday. By the way, the code is holiday09.
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