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whats wrong with politics today

Postby kiryan » Mon Oct 11, 2010 10:01 pm

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/10 ... nactments/

This GOP candidate is being absolutely villified for participating in historical re-enactments with his son. The great offense he committed was dressing up as a nazi in some of the events. never mind that he is not a white supremacist (i mean he is GOP, but he's not a member of the aryan nation), never mind that he has released statements condemning the actions, never mind that in others he dressed up as a US soldier in other events. There is photographic proof he dressed up as a nazi and everyone and their mother is out there disowning him. Not just the democrats who obviously need to use this to have a chance at winning any election, but republicans too.

what the fuk is wrong with you people.
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Re: whats wrong with politics today

Postby Ragorn » Tue Oct 12, 2010 2:01 pm

The problem with politics is that it's ok to dress up as a Nazi, but it's not ok to build a house of worship in New York City.

Let me know when you idiots work that one out.
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Re: whats wrong with politics today

Postby teflor the ranger » Tue Oct 12, 2010 2:58 pm

You mean, through the details and nuance?

Let me know when you idiots have something substantial.
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Re: whats wrong with politics today

Postby Sarvis » Tue Oct 12, 2010 3:00 pm

How about freedom of religion?
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Re: whats wrong with politics today

Postby teflor the ranger » Tue Oct 12, 2010 3:01 pm

Which has in no way been compromised. Don't be stupid about this.
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Re: whats wrong with politics today

Postby Sarvis » Tue Oct 12, 2010 3:30 pm

Not for lack of trying. The government is actually doing the right thing by not stopping the "mosque" construction. It's the people that are crying out for oppression.
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Re: whats wrong with politics today

Postby teflor the ranger » Tue Oct 12, 2010 4:04 pm

Of course, you would be afraid of people exercising their freedom of speech. That fearmongering is really working out for you and your party.

Oh, and good job misinterpreting what the majority of people are saying. Very few are actually demanding that the government ban the mosque.

Actually GREAT job, Democrat, for pointing and screaming at the extreme minority in order to slander the majority.

Fantastic, fine, be stupid about this. It'll probably help you get your way, if you even know what communism does to societies.
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Re: whats wrong with politics today

Postby Sarvis » Tue Oct 12, 2010 4:17 pm

Never said they couldn't say it, just said that they are calling for something fundamentally against what this country stands for.

Neither of us knows how many Republicans want the "mosque" construction stopped vs. how many are "silent" so you're full of shit for stating they are a minority.
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Re: whats wrong with politics today

Postby Pril » Tue Oct 12, 2010 4:25 pm

This is utterly stupid by the way. It's not like he's saying that the Nazi's did the right thing he's dressing up to take part of a reenactment. This whole this is as retarded as saying that someone who reenacts the civil war supports slavery!
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Re: whats wrong with politics today

Postby Sarvis » Tue Oct 12, 2010 4:35 pm

Pril wrote:This is utterly stupid by the way. It's not like he's saying that the Nazi's did the right thing he's dressing up to take part of a reenactment. This whole this is as retarded as saying that someone who reenacts the civil war supports slavery!



Depends which side they're on. ;)

How come we never reenact other wars? Why not the Revolutionary War or something? Or one old enough for everyone to be using swords?
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Re: whats wrong with politics today

Postby Pril » Tue Oct 12, 2010 5:13 pm

Sarvis wrote:
Pril wrote:This is utterly stupid by the way. It's not like he's saying that the Nazi's did the right thing he's dressing up to take part of a reenactment. This whole this is as retarded as saying that someone who reenacts the civil war supports slavery!



Depends which side they're on. ;)

How come we never reenact other wars? Why not the Revolutionary War or something? Or one old enough for everyone to be using swords?


Revolutionary war: http://www.ushistory.org/valleyforge/youasked/046.htm
WWI: http://www.great-war-assoc.org/
Roman war reenactments: http://www.romanempire.net/romepage/Lin ... groups.htm

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Re: whats wrong with politics today

Postby Sarvis » Tue Oct 12, 2010 5:20 pm

Fair enough. Seems to be a lot less common or get less attention though.
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Re: whats wrong with politics today

Postby teflor the ranger » Tue Oct 12, 2010 5:33 pm

Sarvis wrote:Never said they couldn't say it, just said that they are calling for something fundamentally against what this country stands for.

Neither of us knows how many Republicans want the "mosque" construction stopped vs. how many are "silent" so you're full of shit for stating they are a minority.

Again, no they aren't, you stupid bigoted dumbass. There is a huge difference between criticizing the mosque and demanding that the government make it illegal.

Get this through your head and stop being stupid about it.
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Re: whats wrong with politics today

Postby Sarvis » Tue Oct 12, 2010 6:37 pm

:roll:
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Re: whats wrong with politics today

Postby Adriorn Darkcloak » Tue Oct 12, 2010 9:27 pm

Sarvis, I know I told you once before but I'm not sure what the response was. At least I think I told you.

Voltaire did not write that famous quote that is attributed to him, it was from some guy who was writing a summary of Voltaire's thoughts or whatnot. Also, the actual quote from that guy was "I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it". He was basically just trying to paraphrase Voltaire.

Just an FYI, nothing sinister behind this :)
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Re: whats wrong with politics today

Postby kiryan » Tue Oct 12, 2010 9:51 pm

Sarvis wrote:Not for lack of trying. The government is actually doing the right thing by not stopping the "mosque" construction. It's the people that are crying out for oppression.


What I don't understand about this is how its ok for government to strong arm insurance companies, banks and the creditors of the automakers, but its not ok for them to do anything but express abject support for a muslim mosque built across the street from the largest foreign attack ever on US soil perpertrated by 11 muslims. No one in government will even call it "insensitive" which it clearly is.

I agree that the government should not stop the mosque, but they don't have to support it. and there should be some equity between how they treat other religions and the kiddy gloves they use when dealing with Islam.
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Re: whats wrong with politics today

Postby teflor the ranger » Tue Oct 12, 2010 10:39 pm

Because there is no right to sell insurance, Kiryan.
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Re: whats wrong with politics today

Postby Sarvis » Tue Oct 12, 2010 10:42 pm

Adriorn Darkcloak wrote:Sarvis, I know I told you once before but I'm not sure what the response was. At least I think I told you.

Voltaire did not write that famous quote that is attributed to him, it was from some guy who was writing a summary of Voltaire's thoughts or whatnot. Also, the actual quote from that guy was "I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it". He was basically just trying to paraphrase Voltaire.

Just an FYI, nothing sinister behind this :)



Don't remember you telling me before, but fixed as best I am able. Thanks!
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Re: whats wrong with politics today

Postby kiryan » Thu Oct 14, 2010 12:00 am

Hmm.. so apparently when this guy was first questioned he basically gushed about how amazing germany's war machine was... so he came off as pro nazi. it was only days later that he came out and issued a statement condemning the actions of the nazis.

i dont know sounded like to me that he was just a history buff. I mean really who else does these re-enactments other than history buffs? but maybe he is a closet nazi.. i dunno.
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Re: whats wrong with politics today

Postby Ragorn » Thu Oct 14, 2010 6:22 am

kiryan wrote:Hmm.. so apparently when this guy was first questioned he basically gushed about how amazing germany's war machine was... so he came off as pro nazi. it was only days later that he came out and issued a statement condemning the actions of the nazis.

i dont know sounded like to me that he was just a history buff. I mean really who else does these re-enactments other than history buffs? but maybe he is a closet nazi.. i dunno.

John Stewart ran about 90 seconds of video of this guy goosestepping around, handing out pamphlets in nazi regalia, and generally looking a whole damn lot like a Nazi.

That's not to say he is one, but I'm not surprised that people would get the wrong idea.
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