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So I'm still working my way through this, but I'm sure others of you are still suffering through this series out of some sadistic need to see it finished. Sanderson is doing decently trying to herd all of the characters and plotlines together and best of all he's defying the fantasy epic norm and completing books on schedule! (Fuck you GRRM.)
Discuss away.
WoT 13: Towers of Midnight - Now with 50% less braid-tugging
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Re: WoT 13: Towers of Midnight - Now with 50% less braid-tugging
So I've gotta say that opening the book with a chapter on how Rand didn't actually kill Mogheiden was really horrible. Maybe it was just in the casual way it was done, and that it was so early. It put me off so much that I'm still not even halfway through this thing but I'm going to make an effort to finish it this weekend. Has anyone else actually read it all?
Re: WoT 13: Towers of Midnight - Now with 50% less braid-tugging
Shar is just about done, she seems to like it. I gave up before Sanderson took over.
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Re: WoT 13: Towers of Midnight - Now with 50% less braid-tugging
I got sidetracked reading this but finally finished it up and have to say that while the book was decent enough, you can really tell how much crap poor Sanderson is trying to tie up. Its too bad that Jordan wasted so many pages on useless plot/characters. The story is actually interesting when the characters have something to do and make progress towards it (ie: not Perrin chasing the stupid Shaido). There's a few neat confirmation/revelations in here that I enjoyed, but the Moghedein "twist" early in the book really pissed me off for redacting the previous book's climax.
Re: WoT 13: Towers of Midnight - Now with 50% less braid-tugging
I haven't read them myself, but Shar is a big fan of Sanderson's own books, especially Elantris and his latest, Way of Kings. Might be worth checking out if you like his writing style.
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Re: WoT 13: Towers of Midnight - Now with 50% less braid-tugging
Also, no discussion of braid tugging or skirt smoothing is complete without mention of Loial's sausage-like fingers.
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Re: WoT 13: Towers of Midnight - Now with 50% less braid-tugging
There was a couple pages near the end where "folded her hands beneath her breasts" was used at least 3 times.
Re: WoT 13: Towers of Midnight - Now with 50% less braid-tugging
I just finished the book a few minutes ago and liked it. Sanderson as done a great job with the series. I'm really curious what he's going to do with the last book.
I was really confused at the revelation that Noal was really Jain Farstrider - did anyone else see that coming? Maybe it got confused among the other hundreds of plotlines that Robert Jordan created in the earlier books.
I was really confused at the revelation that Noal was really Jain Farstrider - did anyone else see that coming? Maybe it got confused among the other hundreds of plotlines that Robert Jordan created in the earlier books.
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Re: WoT 13: Towers of Midnight - Now with 50% less braid-tugging
Yeah that one made 0 sense to me to, might catch it in a reread though.
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Re: WoT 13: Towers of Midnight - Now with 50% less braid-tugging
Jordan made a lot of references to Noal being someone special but in his sea of secondary characters it got lost easily. Jain's history and heritage was discussed and I'm sure that there are places in there where people say he looks like Lan or something.
Re: WoT 13: Towers of Midnight - Now with 50% less braid-tugging
Gormal wrote:There was a couple pages near the end where "folded her hands beneath her breasts" was used at least 3 times.
I'm rereading through since I've never made it past book 5... In almost every fight with either matt, perin, or rand, the battle always seems to end with "he couldn't tell whether it had been 3 hours or 30 seconds, but..." And, yeah, the braid tugging is quite annoying at times. I think the ideas for the novels are great even though they snag quite a bit from LotR, but I'm no huge fan of Jordan's style.
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Re: WoT 13: Towers of Midnight - Now with 50% less braid-tugging
Obligatory (from here):
The Eye of the World (Book 1):
Rand al'Thor
Tam is my father.
(Nothing happens. Then, nothing happens. Then, unexpectedly, nothing happens. Everything is FRAUGHT with PORTENT.)
Moiraine
Everybody come with me.
Everybody
No. Well, ok.
(They travel a LOT. Something happens that isn't explained. Something happens that doesn't make sense. Something happens.)
Rand al'Thor
Tam is my father.
THE (predictable, cliched, dumb) END
----
The Great Hunt (Book 2):
Rand al'Thor
I want to do something. But doing this something is probably what the Aes Sedai want me to do, so I will do something else. But doing that something else may be what they want me to do, because they think I think they want me to do the first thing, so I'll decide to do this other thing instead. So I'll just do the first thing, since I want to do it anyway. Screw them.
(Repeat seven hundred times.)
THE END
----
The Dragon Reborn (Book 3):
Rand al'Thor
Being the Dragon Reborn stinks. I'm out of here.
(Moiraine and the gang CHASE him. But even though they are on HORSES, and he is WALKING, they never CATCH UP. This is supposed to be MYSTERIOUS but is really just a plot CONVENIENCE for Robert JORDAN.)
Perrin
I hate wolves.
(Mat and others show up out of NOWHERE. This is supposed to be MYSTERIOUS but is really just a plot CONVENIENCE for Robert JORDAN.)
Rand al'Thor
I am the Dragon Reborn. (kills the EVIL SUPREME BAD GUY)
Robert Jordan
Fooled you! That wasn't really the EVIL SUPREME BAD GUY! Now I can write forty more books!
THE END
----
The Shadow Rising (Book 4):
(Everybody HATES Rand, so he BEATS them until they OBEY.)
Rand
I have conquered all sorts of stuff, because I rule.
(Gibbers to self. Five hundred pages pass.)
THE END
----
The Fires of Heaven (Book 5):
Rand
I found an artifact which gives me limitless power. I think I shall brick it up behind a wall.
(A female character SNIFFS and thinks about her NECKLINE.)
THE END
----
Lord of Chaos (Book 6):
Rand
I have a secret plan, but I won't tell you about it.
THE END
----
A Crown of Swords (Book 7):
Rand
Now my secret plan shall be unleashed! Here it is. Are you ready? Are you sure you're ready? I'm going to make it look like I'm attacking this guy. But THEN I will attack some OTHER guy.
(He DOES, and it ALMOST WORKS.)
THE END
----
The Path of Daggers (Book 8):
Mazrim Taim
I am evil, yaargh! Fear me!
Spooky Voice of Lews Therin
Rand, kill Taim.
Rand
Being powerful sucks. I will brood.
THE END
----
Winter's Heart (Book 9):
Perrin
I was going to rescue my wife, but that will have to wait for the next book.
Mat
I was going to escape with my friends, but that will have to wait for the next book.
Egwene
I was going to attack Tar Valon, but that will have to wait for the next book.
THE END
----
Crossroads of Twilight (Book 10):
(Rand BROODS and DREAMS about his THREE WOMEN.)
Minor Characters
There is a large use of the One Power over there. (repeat indefinitely)
Perrin
I was going to save my wife, but that will have to wait for the next book.
Egwene
I was going to attack Tar Valon, but I won't finish it until the next book.
Mat
I might flirt with Tuon in the next book.
THE END
----
New Spring (Book 11):
Reader
I was going to wait for the next book, but that will have to wait for the next book.
THE END
The Eye of the World (Book 1):
Rand al'Thor
Tam is my father.
(Nothing happens. Then, nothing happens. Then, unexpectedly, nothing happens. Everything is FRAUGHT with PORTENT.)
Moiraine
Everybody come with me.
Everybody
No. Well, ok.
(They travel a LOT. Something happens that isn't explained. Something happens that doesn't make sense. Something happens.)
Rand al'Thor
Tam is my father.
THE (predictable, cliched, dumb) END
----
The Great Hunt (Book 2):
Rand al'Thor
I want to do something. But doing this something is probably what the Aes Sedai want me to do, so I will do something else. But doing that something else may be what they want me to do, because they think I think they want me to do the first thing, so I'll decide to do this other thing instead. So I'll just do the first thing, since I want to do it anyway. Screw them.
(Repeat seven hundred times.)
THE END
----
The Dragon Reborn (Book 3):
Rand al'Thor
Being the Dragon Reborn stinks. I'm out of here.
(Moiraine and the gang CHASE him. But even though they are on HORSES, and he is WALKING, they never CATCH UP. This is supposed to be MYSTERIOUS but is really just a plot CONVENIENCE for Robert JORDAN.)
Perrin
I hate wolves.
(Mat and others show up out of NOWHERE. This is supposed to be MYSTERIOUS but is really just a plot CONVENIENCE for Robert JORDAN.)
Rand al'Thor
I am the Dragon Reborn. (kills the EVIL SUPREME BAD GUY)
Robert Jordan
Fooled you! That wasn't really the EVIL SUPREME BAD GUY! Now I can write forty more books!
THE END
----
The Shadow Rising (Book 4):
(Everybody HATES Rand, so he BEATS them until they OBEY.)
Rand
I have conquered all sorts of stuff, because I rule.
(Gibbers to self. Five hundred pages pass.)
THE END
----
The Fires of Heaven (Book 5):
Rand
I found an artifact which gives me limitless power. I think I shall brick it up behind a wall.
(A female character SNIFFS and thinks about her NECKLINE.)
THE END
----
Lord of Chaos (Book 6):
Rand
I have a secret plan, but I won't tell you about it.
THE END
----
A Crown of Swords (Book 7):
Rand
Now my secret plan shall be unleashed! Here it is. Are you ready? Are you sure you're ready? I'm going to make it look like I'm attacking this guy. But THEN I will attack some OTHER guy.
(He DOES, and it ALMOST WORKS.)
THE END
----
The Path of Daggers (Book 8):
Mazrim Taim
I am evil, yaargh! Fear me!
Spooky Voice of Lews Therin
Rand, kill Taim.
Rand
Being powerful sucks. I will brood.
THE END
----
Winter's Heart (Book 9):
Perrin
I was going to rescue my wife, but that will have to wait for the next book.
Mat
I was going to escape with my friends, but that will have to wait for the next book.
Egwene
I was going to attack Tar Valon, but that will have to wait for the next book.
THE END
----
Crossroads of Twilight (Book 10):
(Rand BROODS and DREAMS about his THREE WOMEN.)
Minor Characters
There is a large use of the One Power over there. (repeat indefinitely)
Perrin
I was going to save my wife, but that will have to wait for the next book.
Egwene
I was going to attack Tar Valon, but I won't finish it until the next book.
Mat
I might flirt with Tuon in the next book.
THE END
----
New Spring (Book 11):
Reader
I was going to wait for the next book, but that will have to wait for the next book.
THE END
Re: WoT 13: Towers of Midnight - Now with 50% less braid-tugging
Lol, Nokie. I think you just saved me about 200hrs of reading :)
Fotex group-says 'Behold! penis!'
Kifle puts on his robe and wizard hat.
Thalidyrr tells you 'Yeah, you know, getting it like a jackhammer wears you out.'
Teflor "You can beat a tank with a shovel!!1!1!!one!!1!uno!!"
Kifle puts on his robe and wizard hat.
Thalidyrr tells you 'Yeah, you know, getting it like a jackhammer wears you out.'
Teflor "You can beat a tank with a shovel!!1!1!!one!!1!uno!!"
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