Sued for holding people at gun point on your land

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Sued for holding people at gun point on your land

Postby kiryan » Fri Feb 04, 2011 10:39 pm

http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld ... 2104.story

Is it right for you to be sued for confronting and presumably holding illegal immigrants on your land at gun point?

I'm sure there is a lot more to this story, but lets take it at face value and ignore claims of abuse (he is accused of kicking one of them) and lets also assume he properly executed a "citizen's arrest" and that he properly posted no trespassing signs in accordance with the law. Is it ok to detain people at gun point who are on your property?

I say yes. But I love this quote from the article.

"Even in Arizona, vigilantes do not have the right to harass and victimize peaceful migrants."

They forgot to add "committing a crime of illegal immigration and trespassing." Not to mention I'm sure littering, often vandalism and probably pissing and shitting in violation of some health law somewhere.
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Re: Sued for holding people at gun point on your land

Postby Teflor Lyorian » Sat Feb 05, 2011 4:10 am

Well, not to poop on this party, but there is both a moral and legal difference between holding a gun on someone saying, "don't make me use this," and "yer' gonna fu**ing die illegal."

The lawsuit is stupid, but so is the whole damn situation. Sure, Albert Einstein was an immigrant, but uncontrolled 'immigration' is actually an invasion.
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Re: Sued for holding people at gun point on your land

Postby kiryan » Sat Feb 05, 2011 5:51 am

I agree, but can you hold someone at gunpoint who is on your own property? Even if you are specifically targetting illegals?
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Re: Sued for holding people at gun point on your land

Postby Teflor Lyorian » Sun Feb 06, 2011 3:41 am

kiryan wrote:I agree, but can you hold someone at gunpoint who is on your own property? Even if you are specifically targetting illegals?

Well, in the state of Maryland, no, not really... I could in Texas, though.
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Re: Sued for holding people at gun point on your land

Postby Corth » Mon Feb 07, 2011 5:34 am

No you can't just pull a fucking gun on someone just because he is on your property.
Having said all that, the situation has been handled, so this thread is pretty much at an end. -Kossuth

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Re: Sued for holding people at gun point on your land

Postby Pril » Mon Feb 07, 2011 2:20 pm

Corth wrote:No you can't just pull a fucking gun on someone just because he is on your property.


Even if they are a Jehovah's Witness?
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Re: Sued for holding people at gun point on your land

Postby Ragorn » Mon Feb 07, 2011 3:06 pm

Nope, you don't get to pull a gun out and mete out vigilante justice against people committing a nonviolent, nonthreatening crime.
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Re: Sued for holding people at gun point on your land

Postby Teflor Lyorian » Mon Feb 07, 2011 3:27 pm

In most states, it is actually a crime to do so.
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Re: Sued for holding people at gun point on your land

Postby Pril » Mon Feb 07, 2011 4:22 pm

Ragorn wrote:Nope, you don't get to pull a gun out and mete out vigilante justice against people committing a nonviolent, nonthreatening crime.


What is the Jehovah's Witness is using his bible to hit a child in your front lawn?
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Danila group-says 'afk, machine gun in backyard started shooting cats'

Danila group-says 'afk a sec, 3 horned monkeys trying to steal hose'

Danila group-says 'afk, koala bear trying to mount my car'
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Re: Sued for holding people at gun point on your land

Postby Ragorn » Mon Feb 07, 2011 6:34 pm

Pril wrote:
Ragorn wrote:Nope, you don't get to pull a gun out and mete out vigilante justice against people committing a nonviolent, nonthreatening crime.


What is the Jehovah's Witness is using his bible to hit a child in your front lawn?

While we can debate the idea that religion is a dangerous weapon, I was actually just replying to the original post.
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Re: Sued for holding people at gun point on your land

Postby Corth » Mon Feb 07, 2011 6:40 pm

When I was about 12 years old I managed to lose my house keys one day and had to sit in front of my house a few hours until my mother got home. Unfortunately that was also the day the Jehova's Witnesses chose to visit. Being kind of polite by nature and also bored as hell I humored them for about 2 hours. When my mother got home they started telling her about how interested I was in their religion and that was the first time I ever saw my mother as capable of causing violent harm to another human being. :)
Having said all that, the situation has been handled, so this thread is pretty much at an end. -Kossuth



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Re: Sued for holding people at gun point on your land

Postby Kindi » Tue Feb 08, 2011 1:49 pm

yeah, only parents should be able to brainwash their kids into believing in mystical skyfaeries, or else they might believe in the wrong faeries
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Re: Sued for holding people at gun point on your land

Postby Corth » Tue Feb 08, 2011 7:54 pm

Pretty much. :)
Having said all that, the situation has been handled, so this thread is pretty much at an end. -Kossuth



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Re: Sued for holding people at gun point on your land

Postby Teflor Lyorian » Tue Feb 08, 2011 8:48 pm

Family values!!! WHhhheeehheewwww
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If you don’t wanna join him, you got to beat him."
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