Why this happens, and When (if need be) will it be fixed!!!!

[Lirathal]

Walked in, air elemental attacked me, a grey elf, and the guards assisted the _elemental_ in order to kill a citizen of Leuthilspar. Explain the logic of this please and if there isn't logic behind it, when can we see this fixed?

Lira


< 640h/640H 115v/122V > w
The Great Western Gate of Leuthilspar
Room size: Large (L:50 ft W:50 ft H:20 ft)
Exits: -E -W#
*A air elemental is here looking like a small living tornado.
A robin is flying nearby.
A powerful guard is posted here, guarding the gate.
A powerful guard is posted here, guarding the gate.
A powerful guard is posted here, guarding the gate.
A powerful guard is posted here, guarding the gate.
A powerful guard is posted here, guarding the gate.

< 640h/640H 114v/122V >
A air elemental misses you with its choke.

< 640h/640H 114v/122V T: Illishal TC: excellent E: air EC: excellent >
The elven gate guard sends you sprawling.
The elven gate guard slashes you extremely hard.
OUCH! That really did HURT!
The elven gate guard slashes you extremely hard.
OUCH! That really did HURT!
The elven gate guard slashes you extremely hard.
OUCH! That really did HURT!
You miss A air elemental with your crush.
A air elemental barely chokes you.
A air elemental barely chokes you.
A air elemental misses you with its choke.

< 385h/640H 114v/122V T: Illishal TC: few wounds E: air EC: excellent > save

"My comrade is in trouble!", the the elven gate guard yells.
You stagger from a fearsome slash from the elven gate guard!
OUCH! That really did HURT!

< 313h/640H 115v/122V T: Illishal TC: nasty wounds E: air EC: excellent > flee
You stagger from a fearsome slash from the elven gate guard!
OUCH! That really did HURT!
The elven gate guard enshrouds you in a mist of blood with his deadly slash!
OUCH! That really did HURT!
The elven gate guard half kills you with his mighty slash!
YIKES! Another hit like that, and you've had it!!
Your upper body is disconnected from your legs as the elven gate guard slashes you.
With a final blow, you feel yourself falling to the ground.
Your soul leaves your body in the cold sleep of death...
Invisible things vanish again.
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[Bipple]

Their probably pissed you left an Air elemental sitting at the gates with no consideration for how they felt about it. It's like leaving a dog in the car when you go shopping.

[Irane]

It's the peril of being an elf....

[Aedarton]

I've noticed that when you leave an ellie it becomes aggro.
Perhaps a new spell, EPO - Elemental Restraing Order ?

[Yayaril]

8)

How about an old spell? Dispel magic.

[Irane]

A good mentalist will order mental consent and dispel.... that nothing nasty happens

[Lirathal]

I'm not so sure that it is localized to Leuth nor is it localized to elementalists. I'm just saying that there is no logic behind the guards attacking one of their own because some elemental from another plane is pissed off. That is like finding a robber in your house and helping him clear it out what he beats your family. It makes no sense to me. I'm kinda hoping for a gods perspective on this so I know the reasoning behind it. If it is on the list of things to get fixed, I'll wait until it's fixed in Sojourn 4. :roll: :P

[Pabo]

Try walking into greyhome with a yuan-ti raider tracking ya. The elite guard _ASSISTS_ the yuan-ti that was trying to kill ME. Really lame, needs to be fixed major. :roll:

[old depok]

No offense but this is not a new subject.

Any mob that is flagged as a helper is going to assist a mob against a player. This happens in GN all the time with the fleas.

Hope you get it fixed though.

[Ruagh]

Well, it happens often and alot. When (for some unknown reason, never seen them there b4) Ive hit a lizardman inside Ghore, guards assisted. They were pussies, so I was killing them too, but then elite guards runned in and I had to flee for my life. A newbie, if he was there on my place, would be long dead in his own hometown. I think that guards of my own town assisting an aggro mob which has attacked me first in my own town is a bug and it is crying to be fixed.

[Kurtok]

I seem to recall hearing stories about how people would aggro the Displacer Beast and then let it track them to the Waterdeep gates and then the guards would assist the player against the Displacer Beast. The players would let the guards tank and then players would steal the exp from either the mob dying or the guards dying. It was pretty cheesy. The same thing could be done with lizardmen in Ghore or anywhere else that a tracking MOB will track into hometowns where guards used to assist players.

So, basically the blame falls on lazy players that found creative ways to abuse the "mistakes" of the code of the game.

[Salen]

No it falls to

Not having a flag to mark the aggro as not to be assisted. The cooshies and robins used to get people killed in leuth by this.

n00b attacks robin for xp; elite assists; n00b go squish.

It was fixed for these mobs, it could be fixed for other mobs. It isn't a case of people abusing guards anymore, it's a case of a large number of mobs would have to be re-flagged or have an additional flag made for them.

Though, in the Leuth guard instance. I don't get why they can't be marked assist good only, since none of the aggro mobs are good.

[Lirathal]

ONCE AGAIN. This is backwards logic. Can we please have this fixed, now that I know it's a problem that needs to be fixed, and it's not localized to me?

Lira


The Great Western Gate of Leuthilspar
These are the magic gates that close Leuthilspar off from the rest of the
world. A great mystic portal glows and flashes with power, as elves enter
and exit the eternal city. Only those of the proper heart may enter the city.
Room size: Large (L:50 ft W:50 ft H:20 ft)
Exits: - East - West #
A fire elemental is here blazing with heat!
A vegepygmy explores the area.
A fire elemental is here blazing with heat!
A phase spider scans the surrounds, moving slowly.
A powerful guard is posted here, guarding the gate.
A powerful guard is posted here, guarding the gate.
A powerful guard is posted here, guarding the gate.
A powerful guard is posted here, guarding the gate.
A powerful guard is posted here, guarding the gate.

< 208h/208H 88v/122V >
A fire elemental burns you.

< 199h/208H 89v/122V T: Illishal TC: few scratches E: fire EC: excellent >
A fire elemental says 'I must assist my friend!'

< 199h/208H 89v/122V T: Illishal TC: few scratches E: fire EC: excellent >
The elven gate guard sends you sprawling.

< 196h/208H 89v/122V T: Illishal TC: few scratches E: fire EC: excellent >
flee
"My comrade is in trouble!", the the elven gate guard yells.
You gasp in pain from the elven gate guard's awesome slash!
OUCH! That really did HURT!

< 118h/208H 89v/122V T: Illishal TC: few wounds E: fire EC: excellent > The elven gate guard half kills you with his mighty slash!
YIKES! Another hit like that, and you've had it!!
Your vision spins into darkness as your head falls towards the ground.
With a final blow, you feel yourself falling to the ground.
Your soul leaves your body in the cold sleep of death...

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[Ashiwi]

Ummm... correct me if I'm wrong, but if you dispelled your elemental properly you wouldn't have that problem, would you? You'd still have the problem if one of the wandering/tracking aggros ended up there, but at least you wouldn't be doing it to yourself.

[thanuk]

Everyone has had this happen to them at some point; its been happening for like a decade now. They're never going to fix it. Consider it a hazing ritual, like the first time you drop a weapon over water.

Oh, and stop leaving aggro mentals around, u bastard.

[rylan]

I had someone leave their pet elemental over on moonshaes earlier. Some global pack of low level aggros loaded and attacked me, and the elemental assisted the mobs. lol

[belleshel]

I have no problem with Anti-Rylan code.