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No Regen Bug

Postby icecillam » Thu Jul 31, 2003 10:57 pm

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It is 8am, on the day of the Great Gods
The 5th Day of the Month of Nightal (the Drawing Down), Year 477.
Time elapsed since boot-up: 20:15:54
Current time is: Thu Jul 31 18:51:55 2003 (EDT)

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It is 9am, on the day of the Great Gods
The 5th Day of the Month of Nightal (the Drawing Down), Year 477.
Time elapsed since boot-up: 20:16:49
Current time is: Thu Jul 31 18:52:50 2003 (EDT)

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You petition 'question if someone is free up there.'

Shevarash responds to your petition with 'Sorry, the Immortals are currently busy downgrading Rangers and Evils. Please leave a message at the beep and we'll consider downgrading you, too.'
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Postby icecillam » Thu Jul 31, 2003 10:58 pm

Quick note, this had been going on for about 1 minute or so before I typed time for the first time in this log. So about 2 minutes of no regen.
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Postby rylan » Fri Aug 01, 2003 12:59 am

I've noticed it seems to happen, to a lesser degree, with hps, but only when you are over the max and then drop under. Seems like something stops checking to regen for a while if you're over max, and then when you drop under max it doesn't recheck to see if it should start regening.
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Postby Lirela » Fri Aug 01, 2003 4:43 am

You started regenning after the save, so it makes me think this is related to the no food/water thing.

About a week ago I petitioned because I would log on and sit to pray, but wouldn't actually pray any spells until after an autosave or until I saved my char. They said it had to do with you being thirsty/hungry even though you can't eat/drink and would fix itself on a save.

They told me to try saving, and if it happens in another circumstance to let them know.

*shrug*
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Postby icecillam » Mon Aug 04, 2003 4:40 pm

No, if you check my spam I had a few saves thrown in. Save sometimes seems to fix it, but only after I've spamed it in a buncha times.

It possibly could be related to having more hp than max. If it is indeed the case this probably should be looked at because every other time I med I go one over max, due to the way psp regen is coded.
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Postby icecillam » Sun Sep 14, 2003 5:25 am

Ok managed to replicate the bug 3x in a row.

What happend was I meditate so I'm one over max psp. Equalize twice, stasis field once (probably doesn't matter how many times I equalize/stasis). Then med. Hit enter lots and watch my psp's not go back up.

Intresting thing to note is that at least one of the psi skills seems to reinitiate the meditation process. I'm not sure which one yet tho, had some triggers fire off while I was testing.
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Postby icecillam » Sun Sep 14, 2003 5:38 am

More testing...Seems to be a !regen when over max issue. Note that my psp's drop by one before going back up again.

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Postby Gerad » Sun Sep 14, 2003 3:33 pm

#trig {experience.} {save}
<I>When a man lies, he murders some part of the world
These are the pale deaths, which men miscall their lives
All this I cannot bear to witness any longer
Cannot the kingdom of salvation take me home?</I>
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Postby Dalar » Sun Sep 14, 2003 4:07 pm

this'll probably do nothing, but u ever try removing and wearing an item that gives psp?
It will be fixed in Toril 2.0.
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Postby icecillam » Mon Sep 15, 2003 3:44 am

Gerad : That does nothing, see first log, as well as isolation of what it looks like its doing.

Dalar : Does nothing.

Intresting to note, in testing Dalar's theory. I was at 817/817 psp, took off a psp item, used skills, and was able to meditate imeadatly. So it doesn't seem to be an over max issue, its only if I med up over max.

Theory : This bug almost seems to orginate from some sort of process saving code. When a pc goes over max in hps/psps, the game doesn't check that person to update for a few ticks to save some processing time.
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Postby mynazzaraxxsyn » Mon Sep 15, 2003 3:55 pm

One thing i've found to help psis on this issue, is using sustain. you lose a couple moves but are able to start medding almost right away.
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Postby icecillam » Mon Sep 15, 2003 4:36 pm

Actually the sustain fix has to do with the !hunger bug exibited by all classes. There was a post a while back on a bard who couldn't play. Usually right after you die, or a few times after you log back in from the inn you cant pray/mem/med/sing. Since other classes cant actually eat/drink anything they're stuck until it times out.

When replicating the problem sustain doesn't do anything. Losing that one psp always fixes the regen. Which looks to be some sort of optimization code.

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