spob
spob
please remove half of the items. With or without the upgrades it has WAY too many slots for just one zone.
It will be fixed in Toril 2.0.
Aremat group-says 'tanks i highly suggest investing 20 silver in training weapons from cm to cut down on the losing scales to shield'
Aremat group-says 'tanks i highly suggest investing 20 silver in training weapons from cm to cut down on the losing scales to shield'
What? You don't think a cleric should be wearing 6-8 pieces from the same zone as the biggest eq in the game? 8)
Yes, I realize that the more random pieces, the more times you can do the zone for something 'new', but when every piece is as good or better than all else in the game, there is no reason to do a bunch of other zones.
As it stands, the only places you need to go are Spob and Seelie, then swing through a few zones for the couple of spots you don't have filled.
And is it just me, or are the SPOB mage pieces Crazy huge compared to everything else outta the zone?
Is Sarvas the Patron Saint of Mages?
And... Why are all the best cleric pieces large gem not heart? That seems silly too.
(Keep in mind, this is Dartan and I agreeing on eq stuff)
Yes, I realize that the more random pieces, the more times you can do the zone for something 'new', but when every piece is as good or better than all else in the game, there is no reason to do a bunch of other zones.
As it stands, the only places you need to go are Spob and Seelie, then swing through a few zones for the couple of spots you don't have filled.
And is it just me, or are the SPOB mage pieces Crazy huge compared to everything else outta the zone?
Is Sarvas the Patron Saint of Mages?
And... Why are all the best cleric pieces large gem not heart? That seems silly too.
(Keep in mind, this is Dartan and I agreeing on eq stuff)
Re: spob
Dalar wrote:please remove half of the items. With or without the upgrades it has WAY too many slots for just one zone.
couldn't agree more
I agree with getting rid of some slots, BUT (see below)
Last edited by Mitharx on Sun Aug 24, 2003 7:54 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Dizzin wrote:Agreed. Was gonna wait on eq changes, but I'll be an old man by then.
And Salen's right, the mage eq from there is the worst part. Even the crappiest copper items best anything else out there.
This needs to be fixed.
eq changes? you made me laugh :lol:
Dizzin wrote:Wow. 1 whole crappy mage copper item.
Do you WANT me to list off the OTHER copper mage items?
Learn, then talk..
OWNED
It will be fixed in Toril 2.0.
Aremat group-says 'tanks i highly suggest investing 20 silver in training weapons from cm to cut down on the losing scales to shield'
Aremat group-says 'tanks i highly suggest investing 20 silver in training weapons from cm to cut down on the losing scales to shield'
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Yes, I'm still slightly amused that the gear in this zone went live with all the huff over EQ balancing. I mean there's almost no risk except a bit of lost exp from the zone. You don't take yer gear so you don't have a chance to lose it. Camp some guy inside and yer peachy. Yet some of the stuff is flat out insane. Guess doin a tricky 1-2 hour zone isn't worth good gear while doin an easy 5 hour zone is.
Yet there's also all the huff about how much xp sucks. Funny how that works...
Seriously here..yes spob eq = powerful. Yes, maybe some of the slots should be removed..maybe maybe maybe. This horse is long past dead. Can we at least wait a few weeks for after the eq changes go in? Then you can go ahead and complain some more..I could really care less.
Seriously here..yes spob eq = powerful. Yes, maybe some of the slots should be removed..maybe maybe maybe. This horse is long past dead. Can we at least wait a few weeks for after the eq changes go in? Then you can go ahead and complain some more..I could really care less.
rewards vs. difficulty
SPOB is a difficult, long zone (I just finished in 9 hours which is long but certainly not the longest it has been and had 4 deaths). I think it's worth it for the eq (although with 6 runs behind me, I've never won anything), but dg the equipment and spob won't be done. As is, plenty of people either won't do spob or back out midway through once they find out what they've got themselves into. Also, there a maxium of 7 rewards for 15 people (4 of them small).
I don't know what kind of uber 2 hour zones Tanji does that are "harder" then this. I'd really like to know.
The Irta
I don't know what kind of uber 2 hour zones Tanji does that are "harder" then this. I'd really like to know.
The Irta
I've done spob in less than 3 hours, with 8 deaths total during the whole zone(deaths were due to fluke stabs/pris para). So you cant say that it takes too long or is too dangerous.
As for there being only 7 reward items, sorry but are you serious? Most people are lucky to get a 50% chance at a decent item in the top zones. SC only has 5 items, Scorps only has 7 items. Clouds is a mess of rares nowadays. The fugging hardest zone in the game (BC) only has 4 real items.. well, unless you count that just *godly* supple chainmail and the fugly bracelet! And uhh.. yeah.. anywho, Yadda yadda.
As for there being only 7 reward items, sorry but are you serious? Most people are lucky to get a 50% chance at a decent item in the top zones. SC only has 5 items, Scorps only has 7 items. Clouds is a mess of rares nowadays. The fugging hardest zone in the game (BC) only has 4 real items.. well, unless you count that just *godly* supple chainmail and the fugly bracelet! And uhh.. yeah.. anywho, Yadda yadda.
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didn't go well
It's certainly true that that particular run didn't go well at all and that 9 hours is a lot longer then it should take (I did state in my first post that it was a long run). ;)
is that what you say everytime when someone proves you wrong?
Dornax says 'And for the right amount of information ye might get some nookie out of Nokie..'
Nokie wiggles his bottom.
Teba tells you 'let me do my job you volo twinker!'
Bobidibble GCC: 'yeah i admit gura is a better warrior then i am, no shame in it... perhaps someday i shall be as pimp'
Nokie wiggles his bottom.
Teba tells you 'let me do my job you volo twinker!'
Bobidibble GCC: 'yeah i admit gura is a better warrior then i am, no shame in it... perhaps someday i shall be as pimp'
Stamm wrote:Most dangerous part of most zones is the mud booting when you have a few corpses.
Spob probably means more negative xp than any other zone.
When did evils become experts on zones and rewards, I didn't know they even zoned.
eq > exp
if the mud booted in the middle of BC or seelie i think you'd be even more screwed then spob
It will be fixed in Toril 2.0.
Aremat group-says 'tanks i highly suggest investing 20 silver in training weapons from cm to cut down on the losing scales to shield'
Aremat group-says 'tanks i highly suggest investing 20 silver in training weapons from cm to cut down on the losing scales to shield'
Stamm wrote:Yes, and my point was that the only really dodgy CRs I can think of are when the mud boots. Didn't mean Spob was bad for this.
i completely missed your points. can you elaborate?
It will be fixed in Toril 2.0.
Aremat group-says 'tanks i highly suggest investing 20 silver in training weapons from cm to cut down on the losing scales to shield'
Aremat group-says 'tanks i highly suggest investing 20 silver in training weapons from cm to cut down on the losing scales to shield'
Spob's tons o fun and I'm pretty unlucky getting bids, so I would kinda like to win stuff before I decide over powered or not. The one piece I got is magie stuff. It's kinda average to me *shrug* It's ansi is fun tho!
Spob is really hard and when someone leads it poorly it takes a long time. I think the rewards should be pretty good.
Spob is really hard and when someone leads it poorly it takes a long time. I think the rewards should be pretty good.
burpie there really isnt much risk involved tho. losing xp is nothing compared to losing eq and trying to CR a zone that u do naked normally is cake compared to trying to CR in seelie or bc naked.
Dornax says 'And for the right amount of information ye might get some nookie out of Nokie..'
Nokie wiggles his bottom.
Teba tells you 'let me do my job you volo twinker!'
Bobidibble GCC: 'yeah i admit gura is a better warrior then i am, no shame in it... perhaps someday i shall be as pimp'
Nokie wiggles his bottom.
Teba tells you 'let me do my job you volo twinker!'
Bobidibble GCC: 'yeah i admit gura is a better warrior then i am, no shame in it... perhaps someday i shall be as pimp'
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Stamm wrote:When did evils become experts on zones and rewards, I didn't know they even zoned.
*nods sagely*
This is true, evils only did weak things like version 1 ress quest and BC.
Thus spake Shevarash: "Invokers are not going to be removed"
Gura: ..btw, being a dick is my god given right as an evil.
Gura: ..btw, being a dick is my god given right as an evil.
Stamm wrote:As long as you have a sitter for Seelie, then even if you completely spank, it's not that difficult. The only time it would get to the point of being really tough is if the game crashed... that would... no, let's not consider what it'd be like :P
Been there, done that.
Oh, I guess I couldn't have because evils don't zone, right?
Gyrx wrote:Stamm wrote:As long as you have a sitter for Seelie, then even if you completely spank, it's not that difficult. The only time it would get to the point of being really tough is if the game crashed... that would... no, let's not consider what it'd be like :P
Been there, done that.
Oh, I guess I couldn't have because evils don't zone, right?
Right. It was your imagination.
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[49 Warrior ] Stamm - Violent Desire - Shadows of Imphras (Dwarf) (RP)
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Lilithelle stops using a softly throbbing piece of flesh.
Gura group-says 'ill go solo the biznatch, just don't tell Stamm'
Kossuth responds to your petition with 'is it bad that the two words i think of when i see yer title are hottub and cthulhu? :('
Gura group-says 'ill go solo the biznatch, just don't tell Stamm'
Kossuth responds to your petition with 'is it bad that the two words i think of when i see yer title are hottub and cthulhu? :('
Hmm...
Stamm's sarcasm detecting tips.
1) When someone says something that is patently not true, and it is obvious to you that it is not true, then there is a strong possibility they may be trying sarcasm.
I've already had some evil, not sure which, didn't recognise the name, deeply upset at me. I don't have anything against you guys, when I say you don't zone, obviously I know you do zone. But it's a standard thing here that you guys don't have the playerbase (yes it is improving) that you may want. So I'm not going to apologise for your super sensitivity. Just relax, count to 10 and if I really bother you, ignore me.
Stamm's sarcasm detecting tips.
1) When someone says something that is patently not true, and it is obvious to you that it is not true, then there is a strong possibility they may be trying sarcasm.
I've already had some evil, not sure which, didn't recognise the name, deeply upset at me. I don't have anything against you guys, when I say you don't zone, obviously I know you do zone. But it's a standard thing here that you guys don't have the playerbase (yes it is improving) that you may want. So I'm not going to apologise for your super sensitivity. Just relax, count to 10 and if I really bother you, ignore me.
Teyaha wrote:who the hell is this stamm guy anyway.
that your in game name?
if not, put it in your sig. you talk a lot of shit. at least those of us that do dont hide who we are.
teyaha stamm is on ALOT. shows how much you play the game, which also shows your insight on game mechanics
It will be fixed in Toril 2.0.
Aremat group-says 'tanks i highly suggest investing 20 silver in training weapons from cm to cut down on the losing scales to shield'
Aremat group-says 'tanks i highly suggest investing 20 silver in training weapons from cm to cut down on the losing scales to shield'
Gura wrote:burpie there really isnt much risk involved tho. losing xp is nothing compared to losing eq and trying to CR a zone that u do naked normally is cake compared to trying to CR in seelie or bc naked.
*shudder* Seelie loves teaching humility! :P That place is ruff. I was swarming, when another squad walked in...OUCH OUCH Hi! Welcome to sojourn! :oops:
I wasn't deeply upset at you stamm nor do i care if u die tomorrow..im just saying stfu if u dont know what ur talking about mmmmkay? thanks have a nice day. oh btw sorry i decided to be nice and have a convo instead in the game instead of flaming on here.
Dornax says 'And for the right amount of information ye might get some nookie out of Nokie..'
Nokie wiggles his bottom.
Teba tells you 'let me do my job you volo twinker!'
Bobidibble GCC: 'yeah i admit gura is a better warrior then i am, no shame in it... perhaps someday i shall be as pimp'
Nokie wiggles his bottom.
Teba tells you 'let me do my job you volo twinker!'
Bobidibble GCC: 'yeah i admit gura is a better warrior then i am, no shame in it... perhaps someday i shall be as pimp'
Imphras sure has gone down hill I guess
..im just saying stfu if u dont know what ur talking about mmmmkay? thanks have a nice day.
Imphras is changing as are all guilds. We may not be what we were, but we still seem to be doing pretty well with at leasty 6-7 zones per week.
Stamm is a good player. You haven't grouped with him. You don't know him or how he plays so I thought I'd suggest Gura's advice.
..im just saying stfu if u dont know what ur talking about mmmmkay? thanks have a nice day.
Imphras is changing as are all guilds. We may not be what we were, but we still seem to be doing pretty well with at leasty 6-7 zones per week.
Stamm is a good player. You haven't grouped with him. You don't know him or how he plays so I thought I'd suggest Gura's advice.
Gura wrote:I wasn't deeply upset at you stamm nor do i care if u die tomorrow...
That's cold man. Almost as cold as when i tag teamed your mom!
Oh damn. Got you twice.
Mysrel tells you 'have my babies'
You tell Mysrel 'u want me to be ur baby daddy?'
Mysrel tells you 'daddy? No, I think you have the terminology wrong'
You tell Mysrel 'comeon now we both know i would be the top'
Mysrel tells you 'can be where ever you want to be, yer still getting ****** like a drunken cheerleader'
You tell Mysrel 'u want me to be ur baby daddy?'
Mysrel tells you 'daddy? No, I think you have the terminology wrong'
You tell Mysrel 'comeon now we both know i would be the top'
Mysrel tells you 'can be where ever you want to be, yer still getting ****** like a drunken cheerleader'
never nuk...because i set you up...it wasn't my mother that you tag teamed..that was Gormal's grandmother.
Dornax says 'And for the right amount of information ye might get some nookie out of Nokie..'
Nokie wiggles his bottom.
Teba tells you 'let me do my job you volo twinker!'
Bobidibble GCC: 'yeah i admit gura is a better warrior then i am, no shame in it... perhaps someday i shall be as pimp'
Nokie wiggles his bottom.
Teba tells you 'let me do my job you volo twinker!'
Bobidibble GCC: 'yeah i admit gura is a better warrior then i am, no shame in it... perhaps someday i shall be as pimp'
As Zoldren once said, "its all pink on the inside".
Okay that was gross:)
Okay that was gross:)
Mysrel tells you 'have my babies'
You tell Mysrel 'u want me to be ur baby daddy?'
Mysrel tells you 'daddy? No, I think you have the terminology wrong'
You tell Mysrel 'comeon now we both know i would be the top'
Mysrel tells you 'can be where ever you want to be, yer still getting ****** like a drunken cheerleader'
You tell Mysrel 'u want me to be ur baby daddy?'
Mysrel tells you 'daddy? No, I think you have the terminology wrong'
You tell Mysrel 'comeon now we both know i would be the top'
Mysrel tells you 'can be where ever you want to be, yer still getting ****** like a drunken cheerleader'
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