hitroll needed to hit mobs?

[cherzra]

Ok, I've noticed that ever since level 15, I have practically stopped hitting mobs. The things we kill now are around level 23, and warriors ceased doing any damage. I know this is because we all have crappy eq and around 6 hitroll, but missing EVERY hit is rather harsh... see log below.

Any other warriors/hitters noticing this?

Example:


< 269h/269H 167v/170V>
Jegzed completes his spell...
Jegzed utters the words, 'paghz'
You feel your heart start to race REAL FAST!

< 269h/269H 168v/170V>
Jegzed gets a partially eaten a strip of rothe jerky from his rothe-hide backpack.

< 269h/269H 168v/170V> bash soldier
As a House Rilynt'Tar soldier avoids your bash, you topple over and fall to the ground.
stand

< 269h/269H 169v/170V T: Cherzra TC: excellent E: soldier EC: excellent>
A House Rilynt'Tar soldier hits you hard.
You miss a House Rilynt'Tar soldier with your slash.
You miss a House Rilynt'Tar soldier with your slash.

< 252h/269H 169v/170V T: Cherzra TC: few scratches E: soldier EC: excellent>
Uzzel assists you heroically.

< 252h/269H 169v/170V T: Cherzra TC: few scratches E: soldier EC: excellent>
Jegzed starts casting a spell.

< 253h/269H 170v/170V T: Cherzra TC: few scratches E: soldier EC: excellent>
A House Rilynt'Tar soldier hits you hard.
A House Rilynt'Tar soldier hits you hard.
You miss a House Rilynt'Tar soldier with your slash.
You miss a House Rilynt'Tar soldier with your slash.

< 217h/269H 170v/170V T: Cherzra TC: small wounds E: soldier EC: excellent>
Uzzel starts casting an offensive spell.

< 217h/269H 170v/170V T: Cherzra TC: small wounds E: soldier EC: excellent>
Uzzel completes his spell...
Uzzel utters the words, 'hahzw eabrahg'
Uzzel animates several small carven animals, which leap into the air!

Uzzel's totem dart flies true, and tears at a House Rilynt'Tar soldier's flesh!
Uzzel's totem dart flies true, and tears at a House Rilynt'Tar soldier's flesh!
Uzzel's totem dart flies true, and tears at a House Rilynt'Tar soldier's flesh!

< 219h/269H 170v/170V T: Cherzra TC: small wounds E: soldier EC: few scratches> You rise to your feet.
bash

< 219h/269H 170v/170V T: Cherzra TC: small wounds E: soldier EC: few scratches>
You block a House Rilynt'Tar soldier's attack with your shield!
A House Rilynt'Tar soldier hits you very hard.
You miss a House Rilynt'Tar soldier with your slash.
You miss a House Rilynt'Tar soldier with your slash.
You miss a House Rilynt'Tar soldier with your slash.

< 198h/269H 170v/170V T: Cherzra TC: few wounds E: soldier EC: few scratches> Your bash at a House Rilynt'Tar soldier sends him sprawling.

< 199h/269H 170v/170V T: Cherzra TC: few wounds E: soldier EC: few scratches>
Jegzed completes his spell...
Jegzed utters the words, 'paghz'

< 199h/269H 170v/170V T: Cherzra TC: few wounds E: soldier EC: few scratches>
Jegzed assists you heroically.

< 200h/269H 170v/170V T: Cherzra TC: few wounds E: soldier EC: few scratches>
A House Rilynt'Tar soldier misses you with his hit.
You miss a House Rilynt'Tar soldier with your slash.
You miss a House Rilynt'Tar soldier with your slash.

< 201h/269H 170v/170V T: Cherzra TC: few wounds E: soldier EC: few scratches>
Jegzed starts casting an offensive spell.

< 202h/269H 170v/170V T: Cherzra TC: small wounds E: soldier EC: few scratches>
Uzzel group-says 'Even nyyrazzilyss said he be back'

< 203h/269H 170v/170V T: Cherzra TC: small wounds E: soldier EC: few scratches>
You dodge a House Rilynt'Tar soldier's vicious attack.
You miss a House Rilynt'Tar soldier with your slash.
You miss a House Rilynt'Tar soldier with your slash.
You miss a House Rilynt'Tar soldier with your slash.

< 203h/269H 170v/170V T: Cherzra TC: small wounds E: soldier EC: few scratches>
Uzzel starts casting a spell.

< 203h/269H 170v/170V T: Cherzra TC: small wounds E: soldier EC: few scratches>
Jegzed completes his spell...
Jegzed utters the words, 'waouq wuggurz'
Jegzed throws a magic missile at a House Rilynt'Tar soldier, who staggers under the blow.
Jegzed throws a magic missile at a House Rilynt'Tar soldier, who staggers under the blow.
Jegzed throws a magic missile at a House Rilynt'Tar soldier, who staggers under the blow.
Jegzed throws a magic missile at a House Rilynt'Tar soldier, who staggers under the blow.
Jegzed throws a magic missile at a House Rilynt'Tar soldier, who staggers under the blow.

< 204h/269H 170v/170V T: Cherzra TC: small wounds E: soldier EC: small wounds>
Uzzel completes his spell...
Uzzel utters the words, 'hahzw eabrahg'
Uzzel animates several small carven animals, which leap into the air!

Uzzel's totem dart flies true, and tears at a House Rilynt'Tar soldier's flesh!
Uzzel's totem dart flies true, and tears at a House Rilynt'Tar soldier's flesh!
Uzzel's totem dart flies true, and tears at a House Rilynt'Tar soldier's flesh!

< 204h/269H 170v/170V T: Cherzra TC: small wounds E: soldier EC: few wounds>
Jegzed starts casting an offensive spell.

< 205h/269H 170v/170V T: Cherzra TC: small wounds E: soldier EC: few wounds>
A House Rilynt'Tar soldier hits you hard.
A House Rilynt'Tar soldier hits you.
A House Rilynt'Tar soldier clambers to his feet.
bash
You miss a House Rilynt'Tar soldier with your slash.
You miss a House Rilynt'Tar soldier with your slash.
Uzzel starts casting a spell.

< 183h/269H 170v/170V T: Cherzra TC: few wounds E: soldier EC: few wounds> Jegzed completes his spell...
Jegzed utters the words, 'waouq wuggurz'
Jegzed throws a magic missile at a House Rilynt'Tar soldier, who staggers under the blow.
Jegzed throws a magic missile at a House Rilynt'Tar soldier, who staggers under the blow.
Jegzed throws a magic missile at a House Rilynt'Tar soldier, who staggers under the blow.
Jegzed throws a magic missile at a House Rilynt'Tar soldier, who staggers under the blow.
Jegzed throws a magic missile at a House Rilynt'Tar soldier, who staggers under the blow.
Your bash at a House Rilynt'Tar soldier sends him sprawling.

< 184h/269H 170v/170V T: Cherzra TC: few wounds E: soldier EC: few wounds>
Uzzel completes his spell...
Uzzel utters the words, 'hahzw eabrahg'
Uzzel animates several small carven animals, which leap into the air!

Uzzel's totem dart flies true, and tears at a House Rilynt'Tar soldier's flesh!
Uzzel's totem dart flies true, and tears at a House Rilynt'Tar soldier's flesh!
Uzzel's totem dart flies true, and tears at a House Rilynt'Tar soldier's flesh!

< 185h/269H 170v/170V T: Cherzra TC: few wounds E: soldier EC: few wounds>
Jegzed starts casting an offensive spell.

< 185h/269H 170v/170V T: Cherzra TC: few wounds E: soldier EC: few wounds>
You dodge a House Rilynt'Tar soldier's vicious attack.
You block a House Rilynt'Tar soldier's attack with your shield!
You miss a House Rilynt'Tar soldier with your slash.
You miss a House Rilynt'Tar soldier with your slash.

< 186h/269H 170v/170V T: Cherzra TC: few wounds E: soldier EC: few wounds>
Uzzel starts casting a spell.

< 186h/269H 170v/170V T: Cherzra TC: few wounds E: soldier EC: few wounds>
Jegzed completes his spell...
Jegzed utters the words, 'waouq wuggurz'
Jegzed throws a magic missile at a House Rilynt'Tar soldier, who staggers under the blow.
Jegzed throws a magic missile at a House Rilynt'Tar soldier, who staggers under the blow.
Jegzed throws a magic missile at a House Rilynt'Tar soldier, who staggers under the blow.
Jegzed throws a magic missile at a House Rilynt'Tar soldier, who staggers under the blow.
Jegzed throws a magic missile at a House Rilynt'Tar soldier, who staggers under the blow.

< 187h/269H 170v/170V T: Cherzra TC: few wounds E: soldier EC: nasty wounds>
Uzzel completes his spell...
Uzzel utters the words, 'hahzw eabrahg'
Uzzel animates several small carven animals, which leap into the air!

Uzzel's totem dart flies true, and tears at a House Rilynt'Tar soldier's flesh!
Uzzel's totem dart flies true, and tears at a House Rilynt'Tar soldier's flesh!
Uzzel's totem dart flies true, and tears at a House Rilynt'Tar soldier's flesh!

< 187h/269H 170v/170V T: Cherzra TC: few wounds E: soldier EC: nasty wounds>
Jegzed starts casting an offensive spell.

< 188h/269H 170v/170V T: Cherzra TC: few wounds E: soldier EC: nasty wounds>
Uzzel crushes a House Rilynt'Tar soldier hard.
A House Rilynt'Tar soldier hits you hard.
You miss a House Rilynt'Tar soldier with your slash.
You miss a House Rilynt'Tar soldier with your slash.

< 173h/269H 170v/170V T: Cherzra TC: few wounds E: soldier EC: nasty wounds>
Uzzel starts casting a spell.

< 174h/269H 170v/170V T: Cherzra TC: few wounds E: soldier EC: nasty wounds>
Jegzed completes his spell...
Jegzed utters the words, 'waouq wuggurz'
Jegzed throws a magic missile at a House Rilynt'Tar soldier, who staggers under the blow.
Jegzed throws a magic missile at a House Rilynt'Tar soldier, who staggers under the blow.
Jegzed throws a magic missile at a House Rilynt'Tar soldier, who staggers under the blow.
Jegzed throws a magic missile at a House Rilynt'Tar soldier, who staggers under the blow.
Jegzed throws a magic missile at a House Rilynt'Tar soldier, who staggers under the blow.
Uzzel completes his spell...
Uzzel utters the words, 'hahzw eabrahg'
Uzzel animates several small carven animals, which leap into the air!

Uzzel's totem dart flies true, and tears at a House Rilynt'Tar soldier's flesh!
Uzzel's totem dart flies true, and tears at a House Rilynt'Tar soldier's flesh!
Uzzel's totem dart flies true, and tears at a House Rilynt'Tar soldier's flesh!

< 175h/269H 170v/170V T: Cherzra TC: few wounds E: soldier EC: pretty hurt>
A House Rilynt'Tar soldier hits you very hard.
A House Rilynt'Tar soldier hits you very hard.
A House Rilynt'Tar soldier clambers to his feet.
bash
You miss a House Rilynt'Tar soldier with your slash.
You miss a House Rilynt'Tar soldier with your slash.
You miss a House Rilynt'Tar soldier with your slash.

< 145h/269H 170v/170V T: Cherzra TC: few wounds E: soldier EC: pretty hurt>
Jegzed starts casting an offensive spell.

< 145h/269H 170v/170V T: Cherzra TC: few wounds E: soldier EC: pretty hurt> Your bash at a House Rilynt'Tar soldier sends him sprawling.

< 145h/269H 170v/170V T: Cherzra TC: few wounds E: soldier EC: pretty hurt>
Jegzed completes his spell...
Jegzed utters the words, 'waouq wuggurz'
Jegzed throws a magic missile at a House Rilynt'Tar soldier, who staggers under the blow.
Jegzed throws a magic missile at a House Rilynt'Tar soldier, who staggers under the blow.
Jegzed throws a magic missile at a House Rilynt'Tar soldier, who staggers under the blow.
Jegzed throws a magic missile at a House Rilynt'Tar soldier, who staggers under the blow.
Jegzed throws a magic missile at a House Rilynt'Tar soldier, who staggers under the blow.
Izarek OOC: 'im a lil confused...the average player owns 787 platnum?'

< 147h/269H 170v/170V T: Cherzra TC: few wounds E: soldier EC: pretty hurt>
You block a House Rilynt'Tar soldier's attack with your shield!
A House Rilynt'Tar soldier hits you hard.
You miss a House Rilynt'Tar soldier with your slash.
You miss a House Rilynt'Tar soldier with your slash.

< 137h/269H 170v/170V T: Cherzra TC: few wounds E: soldier EC: pretty hurt>
Jegzed starts casting an offensive spell.

< 138h/269H 170v/170V T: Cherzra TC: few wounds E: soldier EC: pretty hurt>
Jegzed completes his spell...
Jegzed utters the words, 'waouq wuggurz'
Jegzed throws a magic missile at a House Rilynt'Tar soldier, who staggers under the blow.
Jegzed throws a magic missile at a House Rilynt'Tar soldier, who staggers under the blow.
Jegzed throws a magic missile at a House Rilynt'Tar soldier, who staggers under the blow.
Jegzed throws a magic missile at a House Rilynt'Tar soldier, who staggers under the blow.
Jegzed throws a magic missile at a House Rilynt'Tar soldier, who staggers under the blow.

< 139h/269H 170v/170V T: Cherzra TC: few wounds E: soldier EC: awful>
gsay awful
You dodge a House Rilynt'Tar soldier's vicious attack.
You miss a House Rilynt'Tar soldier with your slash.
You miss a House Rilynt'Tar soldier with your slash.

< 140h/269H 170v/170V T: Cherzra TC: few wounds E: soldier EC: awful>
Jegzed starts casting an offensive spell.

< 140h/269H 170v/170V T: Cherzra TC: few wounds E: soldier EC: awful> You group-say 'awful'

< 140h/269H 170v/170V T: Cherzra TC: few wounds E: soldier EC: awful>
A red shape group-projects 'what I havnt seen is anyone doing the Yuanti thingy'

< 142h/269H 170v/170V T: Cherzra TC: few wounds E: soldier EC: awful>
Jegzed completes his spell...
Jegzed utters the words, 'waouq wuggurz'
Jegzed throws a magic missile at a House Rilynt'Tar soldier, who staggers under the blow.
Jegzed throws a magic missile at a House Rilynt'Tar soldier, who staggers under the blow.
Jegzed throws a magic missile at a House Rilynt'Tar soldier, who staggers under the blow.
Jegzed throws a magic missile at a House Rilynt'Tar soldier, who staggers under the blow.
A House Rilynt'Tar soldier is mortally wounded, and will die soon, if not aided.
The magic missile sent by Jegzed causes a House Rilynt'Tar soldier to stagger and collapse in a lifeless heap.
a House Rilynt'Tar soldier is dead! R.I.P.
You receive your share of experience.
Your blood freezes as you hear the rattling death cry of a House Rilynt'Tar soldier.

< 142h/269H 170v/170V> gsa man, I didnt hit this fucker the whole fight
You group-say 'man, I didnt hit this fucker the whole fight'

< 146h/269H 170v/170V>

zero hits the whole fight

[Lyt]

Hey I have posted before and I still believe it, but I feel that the code for checking the AC of bashed mobs is wrong. I noticed that you kept the guard bashed the whole time for the most part. I think that bashing makes the mob harder to hit by 20 AC points, instead of making it 20 AC easier to hit the mob. I try not to bash things unless they cast or backstab for the most part now. I have a hard time hitting if I do bash.

Lyt/Vaaz

[thruar]

The new combat system for melee seems fine when gargauth came to us while we were doing exp, he said that we were suposed to be hitting about 85% vs. mobs 1 level higher than us. I was hitting about 81-82% on average from serveral fights with 8 hitrole. I am a few levels higher now as my skills went up I noticed even with newbi eq I was able to hit more often vs. mobs 10 levels higher. Keep leveling and see if you can see the difference.

[Tilandal]

Hmm just a comment. I have 8 hit while dual wielding with bless yet I still dont hit very often in a fight. Maybe FF and bash would help but it does seems theres a bit of a gap where hitters cant do damage. (im 15 now)

[Azralek Silvermist]

It seem we are hitting less than we should then .. my trigger set which has been running for last 11 lvl show me missing about 40 -50% of the time against mobs 5 -10 lvls higher and thats with a 9 hitroll.

might need a bit of tweaking.

Az

[Thalen]

I've noticed this. When i tried to hit a mob that was significantly higher level it was impossible. My grey elf warrior level 1 with 7 hitroll couldnt hit a mob that conned are you mad?! for example

[Galok Icewolf]

When you try and fight mobs bigger then you, it gets much tougher, even 5-10 levels can make a difference if your only 10th level. Do what thruar said.. you'll be surprised, you'll be hitting alot more...

[Sarvis]

Ok... dunno levels of what I've been fighting lately. But things on Skull Road, with a large group. I had 544 misses and 156 hits. Archery people missed like 3 times total the entire trip... heh. I'm thinking melee might be made a bit better for hit rates.

Oh... and I was lvl 11-12 when we were doing skull road.

Taenal

[This message has been edited by Sarvis (edited 04-07-2001).]