Stoneskin

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Jegzed
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Stoneskin

Postby Jegzed » Sat May 12, 2001 9:20 am

Both me and Valeos has come to the conclusion that stoneskin is not worth memorising as it is now.

The stone lasts for 3-5 HITS and is then gone.

I suspect that the new combat balance, where tank skills and ac is more important, has also been the demise of the usefulness of the stoneskin.

Enchanters were basically 99% stoning and the rest utility.

If stone is useless, I might as well play another class. Invoker would be better I suppose..

Here is ONE example of when stone lasts ONE hit.

You complete your spell...
Cherzra's skin seems to turn to stone.

< 89h/89H 180p/180P 124v/124V >
<>

Cherzra sends an off-duty temple guard sprawling with a powerful bash.

< 89h/89H 180p/180P 124v/124V >
<>
assi Cherzra
Cherzra blocks an off-duty temple guard's attack with her shield!
An off-duty temple guard barely hits Cherzra.
Cherzra barely whips an off-duty temple guard.
Cherzra barely whips an off-duty temple guard.
Cherzra whips an off-duty temple guard.
You assist Cherzra heroically.
You miss an off-duty temple guard with your crush.

< 89h/89H 180p/180P 124v/124V >
< T: Cherzra TC: small wounds E: off EC: small wounds>
You miss an off-duty temple guard with your crush.
Cherzra blocks an off-duty temple guard's attack with her shield!
Cherzra barely whips an off-duty temple guard.
Cherzra barely whips an off-duty temple guard.

< 89h/89H 180p/180P 124v/124V >
< T: Cherzra TC: small wounds E: off EC: small wounds>
You barely crush an off-duty temple guard.
An off-duty temple guard clambers to his feet.
Cherzra whips an off-duty temple guard.
Cherzra whips an off-duty temple guard.

< 89h/89H 180p/180P 124v/124V >
< T: Cherzra TC: small wounds E: off EC: small wounds>
Cherzra group-says 'STONE OUT'
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Postby Valeos/Dorac » Sat May 12, 2001 9:28 am

I agree totally, with a crappy stone all we are good for is globing and dscales...which we wont have for a long time so all we do at low levels is sit there and throw magic missiles...yay.

Check my log of my awsome stoneskin!

<> Casting: stone skin *
You complete your spell...
You feel your skin harden to stone.
con horse

The perfect match!
< 148h/148H 120v/120V >
<> att


Character attributes for Valeos

Level: 21 Race: Human Class: Enchanter
Age: 17 yrs / 10 mths Height: 72 inches Weight: 206 lbs
STR: 86 AGI: 96 DEX: 61 CON: 93
POW: 64 INT: 100 WIS: 78 CHA: 73
Armor Class: -15 (100 to -100)
Hitroll: 2 Damroll: 4
Alignment: 1000 (-1000 to 1000)
Saving Throws: PAR[0] ROD[0] PET[0] BRE[0] SPE[0]
Wimpy: 50
Load carried: Paltry
< 148h/148H 120v/120V >
<> cast 'magic missile' horse

You start chanting...
< 148h/148H 120v/120V >
<> Casting: magic missile *
You complete your spell...
You watch with self-pride as the magic missile hits a draft horse.
You watch with self-pride as the magic missile hits a draft horse.
You watch with self-pride as the magic missile hits a draft horse.
You watch with self-pride as the magic missile hits a draft horse.
You watch with self-pride as the magic missile hits a draft horse.

< 148h/148H 120v/120V >
< T: Valeos TC: excellent E: draft EC: few scratches>
You dodge a draft horse's vicious attack.
You miss a draft horse with your slash.

A draft horse misses you with his charge.
You miss a draft horse with your slash.
< 148h/148H 120v/120V >
< T: Valeos TC: excellent E: draft EC: few scratches>
A draft horse barely charges you.
A draft horse misses you with his charge.
You miss a draft horse with your slash.
< 147h/148H 120v/120V >
< T: Valeos TC: few scratches E: draft EC: few scratches>
A draft horse misses you with his charge.
You miss a draft horse with your slash.
< 147h/148H 120v/120V >
< T: Valeos TC: few scratches E: draft EC: few scratches>
Your flesh loses it's stony texture.
gsay Stone Out.
A draft horse misses you with his charge.
You miss a draft horse with your slash.
< 148h/148H 120v/120V >
< T: Valeos TC: excellent E: draft EC: few scratches>
You group-say 'Stone Out.'
< 148h/148H 120v/120V >
< T: Valeos TC: excellent E: draft EC: few scratches> cast 'magic missile'

You start chanting...
< 148h/148H 120v/120V >
< T: Valeos TC: excellent E: draft EC: few scratches> Casting: magic missile *

A draft horse charges you extremely hard.
OUCH! That really did HURT!
A draft horse misses you with his charge.
< 126h/148H 120v/120V >
< T: Valeos TC: small wounds E: draft EC: few scratches> Casting: magic missile
You complete your spell...
You watch with self-pride as the magic missile hits a draft horse.
You watch with self-pride as the magic missile hits a draft horse.
You watch with self-pride as the magic missile hits a draft horse.
You watch with self-pride as the magic missile hits a draft horse.
You watch with self-pride as the magic missile hits a draft horse.
cast 'magic missile'

You start chanting...
< 126h/148H 120v/120V >
< T: Valeos TC: small wounds E: draft EC: small wounds>
A draft horse misses you with his charge.
You dodge a bash from a draft horse, who loses his balance and falls.
< 126h/148H 120v/120V >
< T: Valeos TC: small wounds E: draft EC: small wounds> You complete your spell...
You watch with self-pride as the magic missile hits a draft horse.
You watch with self-pride as the magic missile hits a draft horse.
You watch with self-pride as the magic missile hits a draft horse.
You watch with self-pride as the magic missile hits a draft horse.
You watch with self-pride as the magic missile hits a draft horse.
cast 'magic missile'
The snow is coming down faster now.

You stagger from a fearsome charge from a draft horse!
OUCH! That really did HURT!
You miss a draft horse with your slash.
You start chanting...
< 99h/148H 120v/120V >
< T: Valeos TC: few wounds E: draft EC: small wounds> Casting: magic missile
You complete your spell...
You watch with self-pride as the magic missile hits a draft horse.
You watch with self-pride as the magic missile hits a draft horse.
You watch with self-pride as the magic missile hits a draft horse.
You watch with self-pride as the magic missile hits a draft horse.
You watch with self-pride as the magic missile hits a draft horse.
cast 'magic missile'

You start chanting...
< 100h/148H 120v/120V >
< T: Valeos TC: few wounds E: draft EC: few wounds>
A mighty charge from a draft horse makes you contemplate a new career!
OUCH! That really did HURT!
A draft horse half kills you with his mighty charge!
YIKES! Another hit like that, and you've had it!!
You're busy spellcasting!
PANIC! You couldn't escape!
< 25h/148H 120v/120V >
< T: Valeos TC: pretty hurt E: draft EC: few wounds> ab

flee
You abort your spell before its done!
< 25h/148H 120v/120V >
< T: Valeos TC: pretty hurt E: draft EC: few wounds>
A Cluster of Rough Beds
Room size: Mid-sized (L:20 ft W:10 ft H:20 ft)
Exits: -N -W
Corpse of a relaxing guard is lying here.
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Postby Valeos/Dorac » Sat May 12, 2001 9:54 am

ok i got another one for ya...


< T: Valeos TC: few wounds E: smuggler EC: nasty wounds> You complete your spell...
You feel your skin harden to stone.
cast 'magic missile'

A shady smuggler misses you with his hit.
A shady smuggler misses a kick at your groin, you breathe lighter now.
< 115h/153H 120v/120V >
< T: Valeos TC: small wounds E: smuggler EC: nasty wounds>
You start chanting...
< 115h/153H 120v/120V >
< T: Valeos TC: small wounds E: smuggler EC: nasty wounds> Casting: magic missile *
Casting: magic missile
You complete your spell...
cast 'magic missile'

A shady smuggler misses you with his hit.
Your flesh loses it's stony texture.
gsay Stone Out.


wow...1 round...enchanters suck :P
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Postby Werg » Sat May 12, 2001 3:58 pm

As I remember, stoneskin was like this before, until you got higher level and your skills improved. You only just got the spell. It seemed to be working right tho, after if ran out, the horse started whooping on Valeos. Give it some time, I'm sure it will improve.
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Postby Glarec » Sat May 12, 2001 4:35 pm

guys guys guys.. you two have been in the high lvl for way too long. stoneskin like everything else in the mud, is skill/lvl based, and therefore would improve overtime. let's get a few more lvls and then revisit this issue again shall we? Image

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Postby Kiloppile » Sat May 12, 2001 5:41 pm

I noticed this with stone skin potions on Soj2... if the level of the stone skin isn't high enough, it's virtually worthless...

You just need levels.

My wife also had a mid-level enchanter on Soj2... think her stones started to take off around 20th level. Might be specialization that really helps it.

[This message has been edited by Kiloppile (edited 05-12-2001).]
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Postby Tilandal » Sat May 12, 2001 6:34 pm

Actually it was not always like this, My level 22 enchanter used to beable to stone waelos long enogh so that I could go out and mem come back and itd still be up. This was while he was tanking a dockie to. Dunno how its been changed but if that is happening its been changed somehow.
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Postby Jegzed » Sat May 12, 2001 8:25 pm

Currently stone can fade on like 0 hits from a level 25 mob.

Its not as it was last wipe.

/Jegzed
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Postby Uthgar » Sat May 12, 2001 9:31 pm

Um.. You are right, it isn't the same as prewipe... it protects from more larger hits than it used to. You are seeing the effects of low skill on the spell. Get your skills up. I swear if we had rebooted the MUD with no code change whatsoever, some of you would be convinced we had downgraded you in some way. Same goes for exp complaints. Exp has not been changed.

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Postby Valeos/Dorac » Sat May 12, 2001 10:20 pm

Spoke to Shev about it last night and he said stoneskin was bugged and he found the problem but he was too tired to fix it at the time so he turned the knob for it up a bit to compensate a little. So hopefully all will be well with stone later Image
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Postby Jinian » Sun May 13, 2001 12:28 am

Can we get the news updated when the fix for this problem goes in? Would help to let us know to whine again Image (joke!)
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Postby Shevarash » Sun May 13, 2001 9:32 am

It should be lasting at the exact same rate it was last wipe. It WILL get a hell of alot better with levels and skills.

Post here if you experience further problems.

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Postby Valeos/Dorac » Sun May 13, 2001 10:50 am

I know it doesnt last anywhere near as long as last wipe because i used to be able to solo tough mercenarys in kangs with stone at 21, and it would be like 20x harder now with stone only lasting 2 or 3 rounds.

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