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PWS - again

Postby Nikelon » Mon Oct 14, 2002 5:03 pm

I assume because it didn't (apparently) receive attention the first time around, it may not be slated for any changes, but...

Could we please, please make power word stun *useful*?

I can only cast it successfully on an air or smoke mephit at awful...pretty much useless by then even on a casting mob. I think this spell has great potential, but for now it really only works in the arena.

I assume the spell will only fit into the spellcast general category, so all I can think of is to up the power (dunno what all that entails). The last thread like this received only positive encouragement from the players, so I cannot see any disadvantages to such a change.

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Postby Glorishan » Mon Oct 14, 2002 6:22 pm

Gonna have to disagree here. There are already too many spells able to stun mobs, I don't think we need to go and make things even easier than they already are. Shrug.

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Postby Dalar » Mon Oct 14, 2002 6:24 pm

is it just me or did spirit wrack's stun get lowered too?

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Postby Jorus » Mon Oct 14, 2002 8:51 pm

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR><font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Nikelon:
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I can only cast it successfully on an air or smoke mephit at awful...pretty much useless by then even on a casting mob.
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Use it to prevent clerical mobs from wording?

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Postby Nikelon » Mon Oct 14, 2002 9:26 pm

7th circle: bigbys clenched fist, incendiary cloud, power word stun

If power word stun is too dangerous to make more powerful, and should mainly be used to stop mobs from wording...would it be possible to put a util spell of some kind in the slot? Perhaps oteb's temp relo point idea...Otherwise we only have two choices, target or area...

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Postby Kifle » Mon Oct 14, 2002 10:07 pm

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR><font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Nikelon:
<B>7th circle: bigbys clenched fist, incendiary cloud, power word stun

Otherwise we only have two choices, target or area...

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Uh, call me retarded, but arent those two spells pretty useful, and isnt the job of an invoker to do damage not cast utility? Seems like 7th circle is a pretty full and useful circle as is.

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Postby Zoldren » Mon Oct 14, 2002 10:44 pm

with all do respect if you dont play a caster shush

pws works WORST against priest mobs and war mobs

and there are better spells vs mages than stun.....

so basicaly... stuns worthless,
/gripe on/
and no it has nothing to do with an invokers spell *moan*

i hate people who say leave it invokers have it they are already over powered *smirk*

those people are normaly clueless about whut other classes have the spell and whut spells work dont work
/g-off/

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Postby kiryan » Tue Oct 15, 2002 3:36 am

nod dartan,

stuns seem down a bit and hex/silence rate seems down a lot. however about 2 days ago i think shev posted that nothing direct/conscious was done to cause this and its probably all in our head.

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Postby kiryan » Tue Oct 15, 2002 3:37 am

oh and pws works on wraith form wow. spirit wrack doesnt, nor do i believe any of the illusionist spells. probably an oversight that pws stuns wraiths.

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Postby gruldo » Tue Oct 22, 2002 8:35 am

feh... pws may not be all that great against mobs but i've taken a few in the arena and they are absolutly no fun there. :P

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Postby Zoldren » Tue Oct 22, 2002 1:39 pm

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR><font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Glorishan:
<B>Gonna have to disagree here. There are already too many spells able to stun mobs, I don't think we need to go and make things even easier than they already are. Shrug.

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i guess i agree.. i mean why should pws actualy stun? what sense would that make? Image

maybe if we downed all the rest of spells % of stun and up pws severly......



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Postby Tanji Smanji » Tue Oct 22, 2002 2:07 pm

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR><font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Zoldren:
<B> i guess i agree.. i mean why should pws actualy stun? what sense would that make? Image

maybe if we downed all the rest of spells % of stun and up pws severly......
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Guess then invokers would actually be needed! *snort*

I don't think invokers are that much in need of a stun honestly.

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Postby kiryan » Tue Oct 22, 2002 3:29 pm

especially when they already have a room stun.

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Postby Zoldren » Tue Oct 22, 2002 9:18 pm

who said vokers were only one to have the spell? and this was about invokers?

why would it be a bad thing to reduce the % chance of stun on EVERYONEs stun, and increase the stun % on the one spell that is ment to spell specificaly, hence the name 'power word stun'

pws in its current state is useless an illusionist with 4th circle spells can stun better than an 50th lvl w/pws and thats the point

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Postby Selias » Tue Oct 22, 2002 10:40 pm

I don't think that invokers were meant to stun mobs. It seems to me that they were built to nuke the mobs. If pws is the one spell that is supposed to stun mobs and you don't want invokers to have it, then remove it from invokers, give it to enchanters and then up the stun % Image

If you couldn't tell, that was sarcasm. Why do invokers need a stun spell anyway. If it's useless, then just remove it from their spell list. Since everyone thinks it's useless then won't removing it just stop this whole debate?

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