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Postby Gormal » Sun Oct 13, 2002 4:51 am

Since another !sum item was recently changed to remove that particular ability I got to thinking about the availibilty of it. Now its easy for mages to get it...every mage alt has a magi staff. Warriors clerics rangers rogues abd bards that aren't elves are relegated solely to Surtur or hearstone.

4 items. (evils may have more) Does anyone remember wearing rusty gaunts despite that they were -9str and crap? I think it'd be ok to see some items put in with -stats or bad effects but are !sum. Personally I think magi staff shouldnt be !sum since its too easy to get. If shells was deemed to not need it when that rare goes for multiple quests then why the staff still allowed? make a wholehead !sum item or something i dunno a -15hp !sum ring. (thats alot of hp loss for mages who use eldritch or something)

also i think that sequester shouldnt be 100% protection from summon. Make it increase a players resistance to summon because as it is its too powerful and makes things like CC a joke where they used to be the most horrifying thing in the game.

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Postby Malacar » Sun Oct 13, 2002 5:27 am

While I agree about the availability of !summon items, I disagree completely with the sequestor idea.

Yes, it makes it more 'dangerous'. But it also makes it infinitely more annoying.

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Postby Tanji Smanji » Sun Oct 13, 2002 6:20 am

*cough* I notice surturs and unique quest crowns were not mentioned in your list!


And shells lost !summon a while ago, pay attention.

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Postby Sylvos » Sun Oct 13, 2002 6:43 am

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR><font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Tanji Smanji:
<B>*cough* I notice surturs and unique quest crowns were not mentioned in your list!


And shells lost !summon a while ago, pay attention.

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He mentioned Surtur crowns, read closer :P
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Postby Tanji Smanji » Sun Oct 13, 2002 7:20 am

So I was tired!

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Postby kiryan » Sun Oct 13, 2002 9:06 am

maybe we should just take all !summon gear out of the game? old eq, new eq, unique quest eq.

it 100% nerfs the primary tracking method for most cleric mobs. I don't see why such a strong ability should be placed on eq period especially when the eq has other good stats.

if your gonna take it off items one by one, why not start with items that don't deserve it the first place, like surtur and magi staff.

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Postby Gormal » Sun Oct 13, 2002 9:27 am

I meant shells by recent eq btw...thats recent to me. I think !sum eq is good as long as its rare...Surtur is plenty rare...esp now that the game is so stable...how often does invasion load compared to what it used to? Surtur is good for !sum item since its a great cleric and warrior item both.

!sum items are not that powerful in the scheme of things...they do have small downsides to that you cant use player summon when wearing and many times thats an advantage or part of a tactic...I know a bunch of instances where its a pain in the ass and I have to remove mine for entire fights.

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Postby kiryan » Sun Oct 13, 2002 3:52 pm

shrug, so what happens when every player in the game has acquired a surtur?

same thing that happened when Frost giant crown was !summon and everyone had one.... frost giant crown has shit stats.

its inevitable, so why not just fast forward to the end? !summon is an uber ability has almost 0 downsides, nerfs the fuk out of cleric mob AI, and gods have a history of downgrading any piece of !summon eq when it becomes too common.

what i really dont understand is why its ok for some players to have !summon but not others. every time a large segment of the population becomes unsummonable something gets nerfed. why its ok to have !summon flag on eq as long as the eq is rare (but not necessarily difficult)?

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Postby Malacar » Sun Oct 13, 2002 4:04 pm

If you remove all !summon equipment, you need to then remove the need for consent to summon, and also need to allow for PCs to summon mobs.

Until both of these conditions are met, I don't see !summon being totally taken out of game.

It doesn't need to be removed, just made special again.

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Postby kiryan » Sun Oct 13, 2002 4:08 pm

why does it need to be special? who is special enough to be !summon?

why do players need to be able to summon mobs in order for !summon to be removed?

mobs dont need consent to summon players. players need consent to summon other players because of pkill.

i dont really understand your statements.

good eq with !summon was nerfed (seashells)
awesome eq with !summon not nerfed (surtur)
shitty eq with !summon was nerfed (frost giant crown)
shitty eq with !summon not nerfed (heartstone)
easy eq with !summon was nerfed (azurite dagger)
pretty easy eq with !summon not nerfed (magi staff)

i dont get it
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Postby Wargo » Sun Oct 13, 2002 6:45 pm

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR><font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by kiryan:
<B>shitty eq with !summon not nerfed (heartstone)
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Totally disagree with the word "shitty". It should be replaced with the word "awesome" as in awesome eq with !summon not nerfed (surtur)
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Postby kiryan » Sun Oct 13, 2002 7:24 pm

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR><font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Wargo:
Totally disagree with the word "shitty". It should be replaced with the word "awesome" as in awesome eq with !summon not nerfed (surtur)</font><HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

nod figured someone might say that, i sure dont recall anyone saying lets go do saks for heartstone before azurite dagger was nerfed nor do i remember seeing folks holding them until after the nerf. and moreso not until folks started getting very well eqd and could afford to give up the hps in held. !summon is a big part of why heartstone is eqd imo, wo !summon i think it would be relegated to shit status.

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Postby Jorus » Mon Oct 14, 2002 12:37 pm

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR><font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by kiryan:
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pretty easy eq with !summon not nerfed (magi staff)
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Magi staff is "pretty easy"? Nope.

It's a pretty long quest. It just so happens that every non-good mage and cleric wants to do it twice, for other reasons, so there is an excess of the staves in the game.

But no, it's not a "pretty easy" item.

As to no incidence of nosummon? That's up to Cyric and the zone-makers to decide on, to keep zones challenging, rewarding, and fun. We can but attempt to advise them while guessing at their purpose with any given change.

I think having one tracking method "eliminated" by equipment isn't a fatal blow to the mud. Especially considering that summon is pretty much the scariest track method a mob can use (particularly a wording mob). I could picture some "scaaaary" zones built around this premise, infact.

But, otoh, I do think something should have to be given up to obtain nosummon, as it is fairly powerful. Nosummon on top-of-the-line equipment should be _very_ hard to get. Nosummon on third or fourth rate equipment might be another matter, though.

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Postby Daz » Mon Oct 14, 2002 12:41 pm

you guys talking about the same magi staff? *scratches head*

i know one of em that isn't that hard with !summon

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Postby Corth » Mon Oct 14, 2002 12:47 pm

Man.. every time an item loses !summon it makes illusionists more like enchanters.

'Corth cast fly.. I mean sequester on the entire group.. everyone else take a two minute break!'

feh!

Oh wait, never mind, sequester helps me get into groups! Nobody would want an illusionist otherwise! (/sarcasm)

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Postby Dlur » Mon Oct 14, 2002 1:38 pm

And actually, come to think of it players not having !summon could potentially be a "cheesing" or "twinking" method. You could send a buffed up cleric into Cave City, have them attack a ghoul and let it word, then let them get summoned. If they are past Quturac's door up on the 2nd floor they could just die there, then have a shaman spirit walk to their corpse when it scrys as clear and druid well the group in.

Therefore make every item have the !summon bit, including iron rations so that when you eat them you become !summon for 1 game day.

Only you can prevent cheesing by not having !summon!

Besides if this cheesing method fails, naked CC CRs are hella-fun! I remember spending 17 hours and 13 corpses on a particularly nasty CC spank that wiped out half the MUD population's EQ and their backup sets of eq (back when people used to have backup sets just in case they got spanked in Cave City). Damn that was fun.

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Postby moritheil » Mon Oct 14, 2002 3:54 pm

[25] a titanium ring lies here.

Something like that...

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Postby thanuk » Mon Oct 14, 2002 8:55 pm

Joth says 'ok i got my group, the rest of you stay here, you will be the CR group'

At least he knew....

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Postby Dalar » Tue Oct 15, 2002 12:06 am

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR><font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by kiryan:
<B>shrug, so what happens when every player in the game has acquired a surtur?

same thing that happened when Frost giant crown was !summon and everyone had one.... frost giant crown has shit stats.

its inevitable, so why not just fast forward to the end? !summon is an uber ability has almost 0 downsides, nerfs the fuk out of cleric mob AI, and gods have a history of downgrading any piece of !summon eq when it becomes too common.

what i really dont understand is why its ok for some players to have !summon but not others. every time a large segment of the population becomes unsummonable something gets nerfed. why its ok to have !summon flag on eq as long as the eq is rare (but not necessarily difficult)?

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I'd also like to point out that jot invasion is a joke for its rewards. When compared to Muspelheim invasion (frost giants have taken over version), manscorps, or Hulburg, i'm more afraid of the latter zones then jot invasion and i get crappy eq compared to surtur.

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Postby Mplor » Tue Oct 15, 2002 3:08 am

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR><font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Dlur:
<B>Besides if this cheesing method fails, naked CC CRs are hella-fun! I remember spending 17 hours and 13 corpses on a particularly nasty CC spank that wiped out half the MUD population's EQ and their backup sets of eq (back when people used to have backup sets just in case they got spanked in Cave City). Damn that was fun.
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You mean this one? I turned the logger on a little late but you get the idea. This log is dated Saturday, April 12, 1997, 7:12:44 AM.

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Milarn tells you 'incoming well'

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Fripple gets a deep-blue set of sleeves.
Fripple gets a heavy tankard made of pewter.
Fripple gets the wings of the griffon.
Fripple gets an obsidian earring shaped like a skull.
Fripple gets an obsidian earring shaped like a skull.
Fripple gets an obsidian earring shaped like a skull.
Fripple gets a flaming earring.
Fripple gets a black eyepatch emblazoned with lightning bolts.

Altren group-says 'get it all i guess.. '
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Dakirn drops Twilight the sword of destruction.
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Fripple gets a lustrous golden-red ring.
Fripple gets a lustrous golden-red ring.
Fripple gets a lustrous golden-red ring.
Fripple gets a lustrous golden-red ring.
Fripple gets a lustrous golden-red ring.
Fripple gets a lustrous golden-red ring.
Fripple gets a bottomless bag of the Tinkers.

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Fripple puts a bunch of stuff into bottomless bag of the Tinkers.

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Rithi gets Twilight the sword of destruction.
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Rithi gets a goats horn.
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Rithi gets a human-skin mask.
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Fripple gets a polished dragonbone bracelet.
Fripple gets a polished dragonbone bracelet.
Fripple gets a polished dragonbone bracelet.
Fripple gets a polished dragonbone bracelet.
Fripple gets a bottomless bag of the Tinkers.
Fripple gets a bottomless bag of the Tinkers.
Fripple gets a feather hanging from a silver cord.
Fripple gets a dangling bone earring.

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The Caverns of Death

Room size: Large (L:40 ft W:40 ft H:20 ft)

Exits: -E -S# -W

a gleaming white bracelet is on the ground here.
a gleaming white bracelet is on the ground here. (illuminating)
[2] a gleaming white bracelet is on the ground here.
[3] A cloak made from the skin of a rhemoraz sits here collecting dust.
[2] A pair of blued steel vambraces have been left behind.
A large talon lies here on the ground, glowing with an errie light.
[2] a heavy pair of spiked iron boots.
A pair of black dragonhide leggings lie abandoned here.
[2] A spiked dragon helmet has been left here.
[5] A potion of stone skin is here
A black gem is lying here.
A black torturers mask lies on the ground here.
A black leather backpack is lying here.
[2] A piece of bone jewelry lies here.
A pair of sparkling diamond leggings are lying here.
A mystical cranial defender is lyingA mystical cranial defender is lying here.
A huge flagon which reeks of powerful whisky is here killing the plantlife.
A large sapphire lies here.
[3] A sturdy spellbook lies on the ground here.
A small black leather bag has been tossed here.
[3] A tiny golden earring lies here.
A decorated eyepatch lies here.
The holy flamberge of the effreeti has been left here.
[2] A shiny black bracelet is here.
[2] a gem encrusted mithril belt lies on the ground.
[3] a nasty looking pair of leather sleeves.
[5] A fine pair of magical silverish gauntlets lie here.
[3] A pair of grey suede boots are lying on the ground here.
[2] The crown of might lies here.
A suit of flaming ringmail has been left here
[7] A gleaming metal amulet lies discarded here.
[3] a large mithril torque glitters on the ground.
[2] A shiny crimson ring has been dropped here.
A water barrel has been left here.
[3] A skull-faced helmet lies here grinning evilly at you.
A magical torch lies here. (illuminating)
[4] a tiny earring has been woven from a reddish plant.
[3] a small piece of leather encrusted with garnets.
[3] A purple silk eyepatch lies in the dust here.
[2] A jewel-encrusted egg has been carelessly left here. (illuminating)
[2] A jewel-encrusted egg has been carelessly left here.
A strange cloudy orb lies humming on the ground.
A round piece of bone has been left here (illuminating)
[5] dark green leaves entwined to form a small bracelet.
[3] a thick leather belt lined with fur.
[3] A beautiful leather elven cloak lies here.
[2] Some disgusting purple sleeves.
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[3] A pair of ugly boots lie discarded here.
A pair of leggings made of silver plate meshed together is here.
A large golden crown rests on the ground.
[3] An ancient suit of platemail lies in a pile on the ground.
[3] The medallion of kossuth has been left here.
[3] A high mage's talassman is lying here.
[8] A titanium ring is glimmering in the light on the ground.
A silver sack lies crumpled on the floor.
A silver sack lies crumpled on the floor. (illuminating)
[8] Some iron rations lies here.
A pile of coins.
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Corpse of The undead dragon is lying here.
Corpse of Stonel is lying here.
Corpse of The skeletal knight is lying here.
Corpse of Marforp is lying here.
Corpse of An evil-looking wight is lying here.
Corpse of A ghoul is lying here.
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Fripple (Gnome) stands in mid-air here.
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Tasarny (Gnome) stands here.(Gold Aura)
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Rithi (RP) (Dwarf) sits resting.(Gold Aura)
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Sokaiya (RP) (Human) stands here.
Thanuk (Barbarian) stands in mid-air here.
Lannor (Human) stands here.(Gold Aura)
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Rhu gets a silvery sack.

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Dorga gets a polished dragonbone bracelet.
Dorga gets a polished dragonbone bracelet.
Dorga gets a polished dragonbone bracelet.
Dorga gets a polished dragonbone bracelet.
Dorga gets a cloak of rhemoraz scales.
Dorga gets a cloak of rhemoraz scales.
Dorga gets a cloak of rhemoraz scales.
Dorga gets a pair of blued steel vambraces.

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Altren gets a pair of blued steel vambraces.
Altren gets a glowing, clawed talon of a tako demon.
Altren gets A heavy pair of fire giant boots.
Altren gets A heavy pair of fire giant boots.
Altren gets a pair of studded black dragonhide leggings.
Altren gets a spiked dragon helmet.
Altren gets a spiked dragon helmet.
Dorga puts a bunch of stuff into bag of holding.

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Fripple gets a grey stone skin potion.
Fripple gets a grey stone skin potion.
Fripple gets a grey stone skin potion.
Fripple gets a grey stone skin potion.
Fripple gets a grey stone skin potion.
Fripple gets a black gem.
Fripple gets a black torturers mask.

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Fripple puts a bunch of stuff into bottomless bag of the Tinkers.

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Dorga gets a black leather backpack.
Dorga gets a dangling bone earring.
Dorga gets a dangling bone earring.
Dorga gets some sparkling diamond leggings.
Dorga gets a mystical cranial defender.
Dorga gets a huge, drinking flagon.
Dorga gets a very large sapphire.
Dorga gets a sturdy leather spellbook.
Dorga gets a sturdy leather spellbook.
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Dorga puts a bunch of stuff into bag of holding.
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Dorga gets a sturdy leather spellbook.
Dorga gets a bag of holding.
Dorga gets a tiny golden earring.
Dorga gets a tiny golden earring.
Dorga gets a tiny golden earring.
Dorga gets a decorated leather eyepatch.
Dorga gets the flaming holy flamberge of the effreeti.
Dorga gets a pitch-black bracelet.
Dorga gets a pitch-black bracelet.
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Rhu gets a mithril belt encrusted with aquamarines.
Rhu gets a mithril belt encrusted with aquamarines.
Rhu gets leather sleeves studded with rusty iron spikes.
Rhu gets leather sleeves studded with rusty iron spikes.
Rhu gets leather sleeves studded with rusty iron spikes.
Rhu gets a pair of silverish githyanki gauntlets.
Rhu gets a pair of silverish githyanki gauntlets.
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Rhu puts a bunch of stuff into silvery sack.

Dorga puts a bunch of stuff into bag of holding.

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Rhu gets a pair of silverish githyanki gauntlets.
Rhu gets a pair of silverish githyanki gauntlets.
Rhu gets a pair of silverish githyanki gauntlets.
Rhu gets a pair of grey suede boots.
Rhu gets a pair of grey suede boots.
Rhu gets a pair of grey suede boots.
Rhu gets the crown of might.
Rhu gets the crown of might.
Rhu gets a suit of flaming ringmail.
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Rhu puts some stuff into silvery sack.
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Rhu gets a polished steel amulet.
Rhu gets a polished steel amulet.
Rhu gets a polished steel amulet.
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Rhu puts some stuff into silvery sack.
Altren puts a bunch of stuff into silvery sack.
Dorga gets a polished steel amulet.
Dorga gets a polished steel amulet.
Dorga gets a polished steel amulet.
Dorga gets a polished steel amulet.
Dorga gets a shiny mithril torque.
Dorga gets a shiny mithril torque.
Dorga gets a shiny mithril torque.
Dorga gets a shiny crimson ring.
Dorga gets a shiny crimson ring.
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Rhu gets a small barrel.
Rhu gets a bone white skull-faced helmet.
Rhu gets a bone white skull-faced helmet.
Dorga puts a bunch of stuff into bag of holding.

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Dorga gets a bone white skull-faced helmet.
Dorga gets a magical torch.
Dorga gets a tiny earring woven of fireweed.
Dorga gets a tiny earring woven of fireweed.
Dorga gets a tiny earring woven of fireweed.
Dorga gets a tiny earring woven of fireweed.
Dorga gets a soft leather mask encrusted with garnets.
Dorga gets a soft leather mask encrusted with garnets.
Dorga gets a soft leather mask encrusted with garnets.
Rithi puts a bunch of stuff into bottomless bag of the Tinkers.

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Dorga puts a bunch of stuff into bag of holding.

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Dorga gets a purple silk eyepatch.
Dorga gets a purple silk eyepatch.
Dorga gets a purple silk eyepatch.
Dorga gets a jewel-encrusted egg.
Dorga gets a jewel-encrusted egg.
Dorga gets a jewel-encrusted egg.
Dorga gets a jewel-encrusted egg.
Dorga gets the starseed nebula.
Dorga gets a snake spine bracelet.

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Dorga puts a bunch of stuff into bag of holding.

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Rithi gets a bracelet made from leaves of nightshade.
Rithi gets a bracelet made from leaves of nightshade.
Rithi gets a bracelet made from leaves of nightshade.
Rithi gets a bracelet made from leaves of nightshade.
Rithi gets a bracelet made from leaves of nightshade.
Rithi gets a thick leather belt lined with fur.
Rithi gets a thick leather belt lined with fur.
Rithi gets a thick leather belt lined with fur.

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Dorga gets a cloak of the elvenkind.
Dorga gets a cloak of the elvenkind.
Dorga gets a cloak of the elvenkind.
Dorga gets sleeves of stretched drow-skin.
Dorga gets sleeves of stretched drow-skin.
Dorga gets a pair of taut dwarfhide gloves.
Dorga gets a pair of taut dwarfhide gloves.
Dorga gets a pair of taut dwarfhide gloves.
Dorga gets a pair of troll hide boots.

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Dorga puts a bunch of stuff into bag of holding.

< 677h/677H 124v/124V >
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Dorga gets a pair of troll hide boots.
Dorga gets a pair of troll hide boots.
Dorga gets some silvermesh leggings.
Dorga gets golden crown of the frost giant kings.
Dorga gets the platemail of life.
Dorga gets the platemail of life.
Dorga gets the platemail of life.
Dorga gets the medallion of kossuth.
Dorga gets the medallion of kossuth.

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Dorga puts a bunch of stuff into bag of holding.

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Rithi puts a bunch of stuff into bottomless bag of the Tinkers.

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Altren gets the medallion of kossuth.
Altren gets a high mage's talassman.
Altren gets a high mage's talassman.
Altren gets a high mage's talassman.
Altren gets a titanium ring.
Altren gets a titanium ring.
Altren gets a titanium ring.

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Dorga gets a titanium ring.
Dorga gets a titanium ring.
Dorga gets a titanium ring.
Dorga gets a titanium ring.
Dorga gets a titanium ring.
Dorga gets a silvery sack.
Dorga gets a partially eaten some iron rations.
Dorga gets some iron rations.
Dorga gets some iron rations.

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Dorga puts a bunch of stuff into bag of holding.

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Postby Mplor » Tue Oct 15, 2002 3:10 am

Oh yeah, that was the downstairs pile.

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Postby kiryan » Tue Oct 15, 2002 3:14 am

i said pretty easy and ill stick by that.

the entire quest can be completed every boot by a group of 6 players over the course of 3 hours and the biggest problems are people twinking the band at boot, getting to MS, and that everyone wants it so bad they often have something else to do when its being claimed.

and yea the bigger problem is it also happens to be the misc gear from a quest every caster wants to do 2x.

i still believe that either everyone should be able to obtain !summon or that no one should. not just the upper 10% and downgrade something every time we reach 11%.

>But, otoh, I do think something should have to be given up to obtain nosummon, as it is fairly powerful. Nosummon on top-of-the-line equipment should be _very_ hard to get. Nosummon on third or fourth rate equipment might be another matter, though.

agree. !summon great stat. i dont care where its doled out, sucky eq, great eq, not at all... but i dislike it being given and taken away.

i feel like a rat in a maze, but you keep moving the cheese.

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Postby Zoldren » Wed Oct 16, 2002 3:57 pm

batskulls wherent extremely hard or easy, and there is what 10 in game total? if that many...

i would just like to know why some eq was takin out/changed and not others.. seems random or something...curious, could we if its not intrusive or upseting find out why things like this where changed instead of all or others?

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Postby Ambar » Wed Oct 16, 2002 4:30 pm

*sniff*

not every mage alt has a staff

whine, moan, groan

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Postby Tanji Smanji » Wed Oct 16, 2002 9:53 pm

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR><font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Mplor:
<B>Oh yeah, that was the downstairs pile.

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heh, I remember that.

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Postby thanuk » Thu Oct 17, 2002 7:38 am

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR><font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Mplor:
<B> Corpse of Stonel is lying here.

Corpse of Marforp is lying here.
Corpse of Dorga is lying here.
Fripple (Gnome) stands in mid-air here.
Dorga (Human) sits resting.
Marforp (Gnome) stands here.
Tasarny (Gnome) stands here.(Gold Aura)
Elisheva (RP) (Human) stands here.
Rithi (RP) (Dwarf) sits resting.(Gold Aura)
Mithlin (RP) (Dwarf) stands here.(Gold Aura)
Altren (AFK) (Barbarian) stands here.
Sokaiya (RP) (Human) stands here.
Thanuk (Barbarian) stands in mid-air here.
Lannor (Human) stands here.(Gold Aura)
Rhu (RP) (Human) stands here.(Gold Aura)
Dakirn (Gnome) stands here.(Gold Aura)
Dizahk (Human) stands here.(Gold Aura)
Kanthas (Barbarian) %% stands here.
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Postby Zoldren » Thu Oct 17, 2002 1:24 pm

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR><font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Ambar:
<B>*sniff*

not every mage alt has a staff

whine, moan, groan

pinkkkkkyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy Image

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if i ever finish my second one you can have my staff my love


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Postby Zoldren » Thu Oct 17, 2002 1:25 pm

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR><font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Zoldren:
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if i ever finish my second one you can have my staff my love


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lol just thought about "you can have my staff" lolololol

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Postby Ambar » Thu Oct 17, 2002 3:31 pm

woooooooooooooooooooooooot!! Staff me baby!!!!!!


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Postby Glarec » Sat Oct 19, 2002 12:10 pm

eerrrr too much detail.....

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR><font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Ambar:
<B>woooooooooooooooooooooooot!! Staff me baby!!!!!!


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Postby Marforp » Sat Nov 09, 2002 7:57 am

That spank brought back some fun memories. I'm been dealing with RL and playing Xbox, but just talked to Vurad today and got the itch to try coming back....hrmmm, maybe I see. I saw in another post that someone rolled up another Marforp so I'm just lost on what to do ;-)

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Postby Zoldren » Sun Nov 10, 2002 1:34 am

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR><font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by kiryan:
<B> nod figured someone might say that, i sure dont recall anyone saying lets go do saks for heartstone before azurite dagger was nerfed nor do i remember seeing folks holding them until after the nerf. and moreso not until folks started getting very well eqd and could afford to give up the hps in held. !summon is a big part of why heartstone is eqd imo, wo !summon i think it would be relegated to shit status.

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