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Postby Salen » Fri Sep 13, 2002 5:10 am

If any of these have been done already, my apologies.

1) Corpses remain lit if they have lit eq showing on examine.

2) World load mobs are limited to places that would make senes for them to be.

3) Multiple consents. Consent Verarb, consent Weylarii, consent ashiwi Which ever one find corpse can drag it.

4) Either put items back in the game, or take all existing copies of them out. If the quest/fight/whatever was too easy for the item, or the item was too strong, fix the whole thing, not just keeping newer people from getting it.

5)Build in multiple ways to get restrings. I like the idea of 1 for 50, 1 for RP title story, etc. Restrings dont make an impact on the overall power of items, they simply make characters more unique.

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Postby kiryan » Fri Sep 13, 2002 12:22 pm

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR><font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Salen:
<B>4) Either put items back in the game, or take all existing copies of them out. If the quest/fight/whatever was too easy for the item, or the item was too strong, fix the whole thing, not just keeping newer people from getting it.
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omg so in favor of that. what do you think the reaction would be if valhalla scepter or torins or roots belt had been given away in quest only? Some of this stuff which is currently ungettable/!load goes beyond "unique" status imo.

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Postby Ambar » Fri Sep 13, 2002 1:13 pm

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR><font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Daz:
allow us to use color codes in gsay and say</font><HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

use zmud much??? have zad look me up (narra, ambar, telina)



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Postby Dlur » Fri Sep 13, 2002 9:04 pm

1) Prioritize while memming.

2) Guildhalls

3) A robust and stable offline zone editor(not TE), along with a robust and stable OLC system.

4) More exp from actual zones, less exp from mindless zones like Ship and Smoke.

5) Ability to send items via mudmail as an attachment. Or ingame RP terms as a parcel with a delayed delivery time.

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Postby Dizzin » Sun Sep 15, 2002 7:24 am

For the Love of god, make it so that spellcast teleportation has an effect on whether you fail relocate or not.

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Postby Abue » Mon Sep 16, 2002 12:32 pm

Add natural disastors. If some one dies holding a lantern it would be cool if it started a forest fire. Image Maybe a tornado that goes through and whips out mobs and pc's alike who are not sheltered. Maybe an earthquake or mudslide. How about a flood near the rivers and lakes once in a while. Make people sandbag to keep the water out. hehe.
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Postby Cira » Mon Sep 16, 2002 1:56 pm

Change hide back to the way it was.

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Postby Zoldren » Mon Sep 16, 2002 1:58 pm

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I have to agree on the removing of anonymous.
All it's used for, is people powerleveling alts, or when they don't want to group with anyone else. It's lame and it really HURTS the mud. There is no BENEFIT to it besides 'roleplaying' and this is negligible when compared to how it hurts the pbase, most people who roleplay even want to be seen.

Yes, I'm convinced it is bad for the mud. The only time people are anon at 40+ is because they only want to hang with their 'clique' or when powerleveling a friend, and below that level it is always to powerlevel themselves and keep the group as small as possible.

If you don't want to group or talk and be antisocial, the only option you should have is to toggle tell. At least that way everyone will plainly know you are an ass. Wait, maybe we need a new flag - antisocial. Toggle antisocial: "I do not group with newbies, you will not get into my zone clique, you will not get any help from me whatsoever, I am shortsighted and don't give a damn that in the long run I am ruining the mud." Displayed behind one's name, like (RP).

Remove anon.
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i can agree a little w/dartan making it so level/class is hidden but you are still visable.

as a warrior there is no need to be anon

as someone with gate/relo and you are anon there is a reason

for me w/ssosset i go anon when i am trying to figure something out in a place it would take me 20+minutes to get back to...

if i didnt i would get tells you 'can you help cr' tells you 'can you taxi me'......

seriously sucks.. if you say no your a prick, if you say yes and do you phuck urself

stay anon, avoid the situation

yes i agree it can hurt the mud, but i also see the need for it

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Postby Daz » Mon Sep 16, 2002 2:04 pm

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR><font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Ambar:
<B> use zmud much??? have zad look me up (narra, ambar, telina)

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i haven't used zmud in about 3-4 years. mud master is far better.

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Postby Malacar » Mon Sep 16, 2002 5:22 pm

I posted this in its own thread, but...

A new spell, called 'Improved Haste'. 9th circle enchanter spell, identical in effect to the regular haste spell, but with 2-3x longer duration.

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Postby moritheil » Tue Sep 17, 2002 8:41 pm

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR><font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Abue:
Add natural disastors. If some one dies holding a lantern it would be cool if it started a forest fire. Image Maybe a tornado that goes through and whips out mobs and pc's alike who are not sheltered. Maybe an earthquake or mudslide. How about a flood near the rivers and lakes once in a while. Make people sandbag to keep the water out. hehe.</font><HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

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Postby Yarash » Wed Sep 18, 2002 8:07 am

1. An in-game alias system
2. A way to see the weight of all of your equipment at once
3. Ability to change the group's title without disbanding/re-forming
4. Some sort of auto-spellcasting system would be nice, similar to rangers autofiring their arrows. This would be something for damage spells.
5. When checking the "who grouped" list, perhaps an option to sort the people into groups, and have a sepparator bar in between each group. This would help when trying to find an existing group to get into.

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Postby Keran » Wed Sep 18, 2002 9:18 pm

Gambling in casinos. I'm thinking rudamentary craps, blackjack, etc. for plat bets.

acc chat for alts also nice
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Postby Myre » Sat Sep 21, 2002 5:34 am

hey!
I think this thread has been beaten into the ground and doubt this will be anything new...but here goes...

Put in racial / learned languages.

i.e. humans start with common....drow with drow...and so on...To keep non-role players happy i'd still make a base language that everyone understands (status quo). However, for the people who just want to roleplay.. allow them to speak and learn different languages.
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Postby Burpie » Sat Sep 21, 2002 8:59 am

1) Get rid of justice.
2) Priority on spells, also being able to 'who' during scribing would be helpful.
3) Increase haste/fireshield by a minute or so...hard to keep up in big group (haste anyway)
4) Fix global loads so they're not in illogical hometown.
5) Make rares for quests not so darned rare Image

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Postby cherzra » Sat Sep 21, 2002 12:01 pm

1) Remove justice as it hurts the growth of the mud
2) Global loads should not be in hometowns, planar zones and big aggro zones
3) Remove anon as it hurts the growth of the mud
4) Make incentive to play evils because as it is, newbies roll goodies and never go evil after that, nor do high level goodies. If you want evils to be self sustaining, they need more players.
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Postby Bilraex » Sun Sep 22, 2002 3:15 am

1) Guildhalls
2) Pets come with word/relo/spiritwalk etc..
3) A summon pet spell, when ya lose them in zone
4) The diffrent diety idea would rock. Give clericable types the ability to have domain spells and such, would be great for RP
5) Guildhalls
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Postby Daz » Sun Sep 22, 2002 3:22 am

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR><font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by cherzra:
4) Make incentive to play evils because as it is, newbies roll goodies and never go evil after that, nor do high level goodies. If you want evils to be self sustaining, they need more players.</font><HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

i am sort of a high level goodie.
i made an evil.
i leveled up to 40, grouping with lower levels, and helping them the entire way up.
when i got to level 40, the things that the evilrace PLAYERS did, not the code sent me back to sit at the WD fountain.

id take the WD fountain over that any day.

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Postby Burpie » Sun Sep 22, 2002 4:33 am

Oh yeah, first on the list should be the ability to open a stinking door when fighting. I just love dying due to untimely repop and door shutting w/o an echo to let you know your SOL. If you can cast in the heat of battle, or rescue etc, you certainly could have the mentality to turn a knob..or I'd hope anyway
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Postby cherzra » Sun Sep 22, 2002 8:44 am

Hey Daz, they you probably rolled a troll warrior. The last thing we need is another of those, and frankly your chances of going to a zone are near to nothing. Secondly, how long did you give it a try? You just waited to be asked for a zone, or did you try to lead things yourself? Same for xp... things usually don't happen unless you take the initiative yourself.
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Postby Shevarash » Sun Sep 22, 2002 9:34 am

Hey Burpie, read the news. Image

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Postby sharunel » Sun Sep 22, 2002 10:57 am

it'd be really cool if there was an extra message when you're too thirsty/hungry to mem/pray. it always irks me when i find out (due to chatting) that i haven't prayed/memmed a single spell in the 5 minutes i was sittin around! Image and you are thirsty/hungry only shows up ever so often, too...
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Postby Sarvis » Sun Sep 22, 2002 11:37 am

Actually, how about making hungry/thirsty show up in a status screen somewhere? I miss the messages for it alot... That way we could check before we started memming and such.

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Postby Sarvis » Fri Sep 27, 2002 12:59 am

Also, can you make it so we can type "open direction" instead of "open doorname" ?

ie. open north
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open portcullis north



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Postby Yasden » Sun Sep 29, 2002 12:40 am

Ok, so I opted for 4x the amount requested, just cause I haven't spouted off my thoughts lately!


1. Make haste actually age you 1 year each time it is cast (like it's supposed to be!), but give it a slight longer duration to compensate. (6 hours - 1 day max)

2. Fix Darkhold Keep, or remove it.

3. Remove MR, and put in prot specific resistances instead, with the plus or minus indicating the % of damage reduction (or increase!) from those type spells. (+1 resistance_to_fire, -2 resistance_to_lightning, +2 resistance_to_good, +2 resistance_to_shadow, etc)

4. Downgrade all defense spells by 25%, tweak warrior skills to compensate partially, so that zones become difficult again.

5. Balance Acheron so rogues can't pwn everyone, and casters/psi's have at least a fighting chance of owning warriors (yes that means downgrading melee and defensive skills, and upgrading spells/psionics!)

6. Someone fix and finish all of Undermountain.

7. Waterdeep needs an upgrade.

8. Menzo.

9. Someone make Oakvale a little more desirable to do as a zone or for quests. :P

10. Move liches' hometown somewhere else!

11. Where's Bahamut?

12. Where's Tiamat?

13. Make weapons and eq break so the wandering craftsman can get upgraded and get his own store in each city. (plat sink! Cost to fix an item = 10x the value of the item as statted in ID) :P

14. Balance/tweak clouds eq so I don't have to hear goodies whining about it!

15. Remove the !mage from roots belt.

16. Fix the attack eating of twilight (maybe it has been fixed? Not sure.), and make the proc last a round longer (again not sure on if this was done or not). Change the name and ansi of twilight so it actually looks cool like it used to!

a pitch-black fire giant longsword of the twilight furies

Like I statted in my previous post about this, I can come up with the ansi for it! Something like:
&+La pitch-black &N&+r fire giant&+Llongsword of the &N&+btwi&+wl&+Wi&N&+bght &+Lfuries&N

http://www.sojourn3.org/ubb/Forum6/HTML/001588.html

17. Mud-wide invasions!

18. Seasonal festivals as per FR standards, with the mobs and objects to boot!

19. Downgrade whining.

20. Downgrade BBS fighting.


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Postby Sarvis » Sun Sep 29, 2002 1:22 am

Nevermind.

[This message has been edited by Sarvis (edited 09-28-2002).]
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Postby Shargaas » Sun Sep 29, 2002 6:32 pm

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR><font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">
Teyaha:
2) better newbie gear
3) better eq drops at the lower levels

Cirath:
1) i would LOVE to see BS finished and updated

Yasden:
2. Fix Darkhold Keep, or remove it.
6. Someone fix and finish all of Undermountain.
7. Waterdeep needs an upgrade.
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I will start a new thread for areas concerns so Shev does not need to sort through 2x as many posts

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18. Seasonal festivals as per FR standards, with the mobs and objects to boot!
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That code actually exists and I have used it for that purpose. I believe it 'broke' at some point during alpha and may still need to be fixed (will look into it)


My list-
1) Finish monestary procs so poor newbies dont lose eq there
2) Tweak ranged code so archery mobs work better
3) Finish design of secret code #soj30069 and announce it to players
4) Improve mob AI to consider PC/mob alignment and race before guards assist. Even if it is just so that goodrace mobs wont assist evilrace ones.
5) see below
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5. Give all quest mobs the strength to carry what they require.
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at least those (dragons) who should not have problems with items even a gnome can carry
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Postby Lasar » Sun Sep 29, 2002 11:20 pm

In no particular order...

1) Allow alts to be able to use acc but w/o titles (limit it to 2 alts?)
2) A "Who classify" such that it lumps all clerics together, all druids, all rangers and so on, useful for rescue lists and vit lists
3) Give druids and clerics di please.
4) Illuminate corpses if they contain illumined items.
5) I might add this later.

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Postby Treladian » Sun Sep 29, 2002 11:42 pm

Oh yeah, make the damn wandering craftsman actually work! If he's gonna screw up the way shops he's in function, he should at least actually do what he says he does.

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Postby Frobakhal » Mon Sep 30, 2002 4:42 am

1. Make it so squids can group-report shows their mana just like how report works by itself.

2. Fix squid issues.

3. Get Menzo put in.

4. Better help files which actually are up to date.

5. A section that explains how power is actually being used by squids past 100. I have yet to discover any use for max power with playing my squid.
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Postby Guest » Mon Sep 30, 2002 8:57 pm

I think D2 did something with MAX_POWER notch for illithids.

*wink*
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Postby Sszantiel » Mon Sep 30, 2002 10:34 pm

1. Make quick chant work a little better especially when skill is at 99.

2. Make 10th circle spells !fail at 50 or lower the fail rate a lot.

3. Upgrade Yuan-Ti class. What genius intelligence? !trip or harder to trip. harder to bash. Take away 'clambers to their feet' and other actions involving feet or legs.

4. Make illithid bag !burn or lower price.

5. Keep up the great work on this mud!

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Postby yuggok » Wed Oct 02, 2002 4:18 am

Here's my 2 cents I guess:

1. I should NEVER run into a squirrel or a rabbit or small shrub-dwelling animal in any mode/form of travel. Just an annoyance that makes no sense.

2. Prioritizable med list would be nice.

3. Decrease spell spam -ie: NO reason you couldn't "sends FIVE magic missles" rather than

sends a magic missile
sends a magic missile
sends a magic missile
sends a magic missile
sends a magic missile

etc.

4. Probably get a lot of crap for it, but I think rogue and dire EXP tables are too "fast"

5. Summon Horde code side effects (HUGE orcs and elven archers) happen WAY TOO often, and make no sense (ie: what the hell are elves doing in an evil town?? They aren't drow elves!). They make the summon horde skill so annoying as to make you wonder, other than for something different, why it was put in.

and (six) More EVIL ONLY instruments!!!
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Postby Shevarash » Wed Oct 02, 2002 4:26 am

3) This is already implemented. Check out HELP CONDENSED.

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Postby Kegor » Wed Oct 02, 2002 11:45 pm

1. Remove !ID.

2. Remove/Significantly reduce ress fx.

3. Fix/Update older zones that need it.

4. Update and Rebalancing of eq and fights from older zones to make them more desireable.

5. Add more ball breaking high level zones ASAP and reconsider challenge factor in existing ones.
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Postby Guest » Thu Oct 03, 2002 9:29 am

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR><font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Shevarash:
<B>3) This is already implemented. Check out HELP CONDENSED.

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Something to note on that: You have a significant amount of control over which areas are condensed, so you could easily condense the spell messages without condensing melee at all.
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Postby Uwuw » Sat Oct 05, 2002 8:38 pm

Hmmm lets add some 2 coppers worth.

1) Downgrade Archery some... (I have a 35th level Dire Raider that does nothing but Archery...and she just goes ballistic when the mob is low enough for her to hit. I exp 3x faster then rest of group if i using bow. Not to mention some intresting afire, flee, enter, afire flee stuff i been doing)

2) Upgrade dodge and parry for warrior types, but don't excede rogues

3) Racewars?

4) !Evilrace !Goodrace eq, would eleminate alot of disgruntlment.

5) !anon

6) Who category (priest) (mage) (fighter) (etc)

7) glist staying even when leader dies

8) Mounts tanking

9) Max_stat eq that actually does something, other then int or wis

10) +luck items that actually have an effect, or at least a hint to what the effect does


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Postby Shevarash » Fri Dec 06, 2002 11:54 am

Welp, you can prioritize while memming now - probably the most common request in this thread.



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Postby oteb » Fri Dec 06, 2002 12:56 pm

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR><font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Shevarash:
<B>Welp, you can prioritize while memming now - probably the most common request in this thread.

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Postby Unag » Fri Dec 06, 2002 2:01 pm

I wouldn't mind players having a "grouping" flag they could toggle on or off. This way, if someone is looking for a group they could use a "who group" command or something along those lines to see these players and know that they are interested in grouping. Or perhaps a "who group zone" command or that would show players in your zone that are interested in grouping.
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Postby Gerad » Fri Dec 06, 2002 3:37 pm

1)Guildhalls, Guildhalls, Guildhalls.

4)Mobs of size 'tiny' should not block a 1way.

5)Remove some of the slowdowns in the game, like ferries, things of that nature. Let us fly over em. Also flying on the oceans could be good. Leaves room for alot of new zones and mobs out there instead of cramming in a zone every 19 rooms.

6)Someone finish neverwinter, and for gods sakes take out the agro piles of leaves, its just silly to think that every merchant or traveler to neverwinter would have to deal with them, eventually someone would hunt them all down.

7)Restrings, Restrings, Restrings

10)Mud pregnancy? Would be funny as hell if someone went into labor in scrops.

11)Putting MR on nearly every mob was .not. an effective way to ballance spell and melee dammage Nice try, but not the route it should have gone.

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Postby Marforp » Fri Dec 06, 2002 9:52 pm

Awesome thread!

1) Keep Anon :P but allow annon to be seen on the who list!

2) Please, when guildhalls are put in allow two guild chests. One accessable only by officers and the other by everyone. That is the only way their will ever be decent eq in that chest. To many twinks.

3) Some toggle that allows for "who wantsgroup". Much easier to be found for a group and to find people looking for a group.

4) The good old "finger" command. Allow individuals to sign up all their current characters, and past, so you can "finger pofas" and find out that he is also Kaf/Cukilikan/Marforp/Neq/Sasdor/Mfal/etc....

Other great ideas are in this thread, but the first three should take very little work and really help the players.

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Postby Tsaen » Sat Dec 07, 2002 1:57 am

has anyone posted a game within the game? Sometimes the only thing that used to keep me on other muds were playing games built within the mud. ie gambling, fishing, secret associations, darts. Especially when the game had the ability to chart who did the best or who was the most productive!

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Postby Treladian » Sat Dec 07, 2002 8:16 pm

"has anyone posted a game within the game? Sometimes the only thing that used to keep me on other muds were playing games built within the mud. ie gambling, fishing, secret associations, darts. Especially when the game had the ability to chart who did the best or who was the most productive!"

There's always using the dice command to gamble with a group or people sitting around a town.

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Postby moritheil » Sun Dec 08, 2002 3:55 am

Still awaiting my legions of newly minted, spankable n00bs.

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Postby rylan » Sun Dec 08, 2002 4:03 am

omg casino in some of the bars in towns. Slot machine would rock. Something like 'deposit 5 p slot' and 'pull handle'.

Would make peopel lose money real quick :P
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Postby Mishre » Sun Dec 08, 2002 7:41 am

1) I know stances got shot down before.. but even an offensive/defensive posture would be kinda cool.. either gain a lil hit/dam and +ac or defensive -hit/dam -ac

2) I wish atleast 1 or 2 of my more commonly played alts could use/see acc.. would help..

3) dragging corpses while flying would be neat-o.. don't see why we can't..

4) Tiamat... i wanna slay tiamat.. (or is that back in and im just out of the loop? :P )

5) is there a minimum load to some zones that have random load? Because ive done swamps of meleich and ET a couple of times when we get almost nothing at all.. and they are both slightly difficult.. esp. swamps of meleich.. unless you have a really good group there is high spank potential and possibility of there being like nothing Image ok ok.. zones are fun to do even w/o eq.. but still its nice to have that too :P

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Postby thanuk » Tue Dec 10, 2002 7:59 pm

1. fix risk vs reward, downgrade awesome eq that is too easy to get.
2. Guildhalls
3. Warrior skills better, spells weaker
4. A reason to bring melee damage anywhere
5. Less melee skill effects from spells, or more spell effects from eq.


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Postby amolol » Tue Dec 10, 2002 9:43 pm

1) elf quests fixed.
2) path between n and w wd would be nice.
3) cursed items in bags.
4) slot for backbacks.
5) easy way to reload a quiver from a bag or cashe or somthing so that wehen i reload my qiuver im not spamming every one
i know only 5 but...
6) somthing where you can buy a number of items like (buy 100 arrow)
7) get # (item) bag
put # item bag
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Postby Ambar » Wed Dec 11, 2002 7:46 am

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR><font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by amolol:
6) somthing where you can buy a number of items like (buy 100 arrow)</font><HR></BLOCKQUOTE>


bag=whateveryoursis
#10 {buy arrow;put all.arrow @bag}

i know ya use zmud ..... try this ...



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